Scottish Independence Referendum 2

[SheepieBaaBaa]

Of course it's all subjective. That's why these reports are shite.

 

To call Norwegian people happy is ridiculous, the language doesn't even have a native word for happy.

 

The word fornøyd means satisfied and can be used for happy. In reality people use the English word.

 

lykkelig

[SheepieBaaBaa]

Norwegians are miserable, ask any fucker who has worked offshore with them.

 

They are happy when skiing, cakes and cabins in the mountains are involved, eh will grant you that, but that's it.

 

Surely basing their happiness on when they are at work in a tin hut in the North Sea is a bit prejudicial though.

 

I would suggest the fact that they can go skiing and have cabins (hutte) in the mountains in which to eat cake is kind of a refutation of most of what you have said about Norway being shit.

[Parklife]

Of course it's all subjective. That's why these reports are shite.

 

To call Norwegian people happy is ridiculous, the language doesn't even have a native word for happy.

 

The word fornøyd means satisfied and can be used for happy. In reality people use the English word.

No. You think that it's "shite" solely because it contradicts your narrow, anecdotal viewpoint. If it agreed with you, you'd think it was bang on.

 

You're basing the worthiness of something based on whether it backs you up or not. Hardly the basis of sound logic/thinking.

[Foster14]

There is definitely a subjectivity in them in that happiness isn't easily quantifiable and people/authorities will have varying opinions on what that constitutes.  Across all such reports though it seems that Scandinavia and Western Europe (as far as Austria/Czech Republic) routinely appear at the top end of these reports.  

 

The UK never does too badly in them either, so we aren't in a bad position.  I think if pro-independence supporters look to use this kind of information as a support for independence, it has to be from the stance that we can point to similar sized countries in Europe who don't seem to struggle in this regard.  It shouldn't be used as a suggestion that Scotland as an independent country can push these countries for a place atop the happiness tables.  Pointless and pure conjecture in something which really doesn't mean much to the average person.  

[BrianFaePerth]

lykkelig

 

Yes, and put that in a sentence please.  No Norwegian would ever use that to describe their happiness.

[caledonia]

So called Scottish conservatives in papers today saying they dont want Scottish government to have a say in Scotlands future.

 

What a shower of roasters they really are only for london

[BrianFaePerth]

 

You're basing the worthiness of something based on whether it backs you up or not. Hardly the basis of sound logic/thinking.

 

whereas you base its worthiness on what? 

[Parklife]

whereas you base its worthiness on what?

On the fact that it is independent. On the fact that it is produced/edited by some of the most experienced and prominent social studies professors on the planet. On the fact that it's the largest study which measures happiness. On the fact it measures happiness using the same criteria and scoring in every country it studies.

 

You know, all the things that have a bit more weight "than a fat, smelly, creepy, racist from Dundee says..."

[BrianFaePerth]

and did gallup take in to account janteloven? 

[SheepieBaaBaa]

Yes, and put that in a sentence please.  No Norwegian would ever use that to describe their happiness.

 

It does mean happy though....correct

 

They could also say jeg er glad..."I am happy" .. so now that is 2 words which mean happy.

[BrianFaePerth]

It does mean happy though....correct

 

They could also say jeg er glad..."I am happy" .. so now that is 2 words which mean happy.

Incorrect. Glad implies affection "glad i deg" for example. "Jeg er glad" is utterly meaningless.

[DD1903]

The World Happiness Report. Ranks countries based on a number of factors (it's quite a lot of reading...)

 

http://worldhappiness.report/ed/2018/

 

Norway ranked 2nd.

UK ranked 19th

Australia 10th

 

Small, independent, resource-rich, Northern European nations dominating the top 4 positions...

I'll digest this over the next 7-10 months and get back to you

[SheepieBaaBaa]

Incorrect. Glad implies affection "glad i deg" for example. "Jeg er glad" is utterly meaningless.

No...glad comes from the Germanic origin and has the same root as the English glad. The origin meaning bright, sparkling, joyful.....happy .

 

I don't speak much of any Norwegian beyond the basics, but your contention that they don't have a word for happy is nonsense. Urban myth.

[BrianFaePerth]

 

I don't speak much of any Norwegian beyond the basics.

So why are you arguing with someone who has spoken the language day in day out for 15 years?

 

Why do Norwegians use the English word happy when they have a plethora of options you could tell them?

[BrianFaePerth]

In Danish the word for marriage and poison is the same - gift.

 

Is it the same in Norsk?

Ja

[Foster14]

So what you are saying that in Norway, happiness is such normality, they have never felt it needed a word to define it?! 

[BrianFaePerth]

So what you are saying that in Norway, happiness is such normality, they have never felt it needed a word to define it?!

Janteloven my good man.

[Foster14]

Janteloven my good man.

 

Never heard of it.  Very interesting.  Set your bar low and you will generally be happy with what you get.  Makes sense.

 

Only thing to note with regard to the happiness rankings Parklife referred to is that Finland, Denmark, Norway and Iceland make up the top 4 places for happiness among foreign born population.  Taking Norway as an example, the majority of those people come from outside of Scandinavia.  Would you be suggesting they adopt this principle as soon as they set foot on the soil?

[Old manny]

Janteloven my good man.

• You're not to think you are anything special
• You're not to think you are as good as we are
• You're not to think you are smarter than we are
• You're not to convince yourself that you are better than we are
• You're not to think you know more than we do
• You're not to think you are more important than we are
• You're not to think you are good at anything
• You're not to laugh at us
• You're not to think anyone cares about you
• You're not to think you can teach us anything

[Redforever86]

Fairly simple isn’t it.

 

Norwegians: happy.

 

Norwegians around Bri: unhappy.

[SheepieBaaBaa]

So why are you arguing with someone who has spoken the language day in day out for 15 years?

Why do Norwegians use the English word happy when they have a plethora of options you could tell them?

Ask them...you're the resident expert.

 

On the subject of arguing...

 

1. Just because you spoke the language doesn't mean you spoke it well. For 15 years they may have been thinking, "why is this stupid fucked murdering our language when we allsoeak excellent English"

 

2. I know enough Norwegian to know that they have a word (indeed t least 2 it would seem) for happy.

i.e. I don't speak much Norwegian but know the word for happy in much the same way that I'm not a gaenacologist but I know a cunt when I see one.

3. By extrapolation,you appear to be suggesting that only those with an expert level grasp of a subject can make a point. On that basis you should stop talking period.

[SheepieBaaBaa]

Never heard of it.  Very interesting.  Set your bar low and you will generally be happy with what you get.  Makes sense.

 

Only thing to note with regard to the happiness rankings Parklife referred to is that Finland, Denmark, Norway and Iceland make up the top 4 places for happiness among foreign born population.  Taking Norway as an example, the majority of those people come from outside of Scandinavia.  Would you be suggesting they adopt this principle as soon as they set foot on the soil?

Not convinced that with regular skiing holidays, the proliferation of holiday homes and almost every expense they have being tax deductible that they are setting the bar particularly low.

 

I would suggest that a certain national generic grumpibesd is being conflated with "unhappy".

[manboobs109]

How can you possibly say one country is 'happier' than another? What a load of utter shite.

[dave_min]

How can you possibly say one country is 'happier' than another? What a load of utter shite.

By asking the people who live there. Pretty fucking simple concept.

[manboobs109]

By asking the people who live there. Pretty fucking simple concept.

It's really not. It's an unmeasurable concept. Total pish invented by bluffers to make money.

[Arabian Knight]

happyness rankins ffs wit the fuck is happenin tae this place

[Old manny]

How can you possibly say one country is 'happier' than another? What a load of utter shite.

Being charged between eight and ten Euros for a pint of lager does not a bunch of happy Norwegians make. On the other hand only being charged between three and four quid for a pint of lager doesn't seem to make us Jocks the happiest cunts on the planet either. Conclusion : only halfwits are happy in this vale of tears regardless of location.

[manboobs109]

^ Shouldn't call it a happiness index then. Load of shite

[Arabian Knight]

but thir a cunt thits lived in norway fir 15 year hinks ez the athority oan aw hings norway.. daft poof sat oan here aw day arguin ez case

[Bluto10]

absolutely amazed that northern euro folk would be more happy than Mediterranean or continentals

 

but of course they aren’t (as a rule)

 

it’s just a stupid durvey