Aberdeen sack Derek McInnes

[V for Vendetta]

Pretty sure the football budget is far better now than it was under McGhee or Brown for example.

 

So all this "success" has to be taken in perspective.

 

Ps - and it's the club board that should be credited for the larger budget that allows McInnes to build the teams he has.

[Scotty_Toronto]

You do realise he manages the football team not runs the whole business top to bottom? right?

 

Of course, but it's a results-based business (and McInnes, more than any other single person, would be credited with being responsible for improving our results). 

[Bamber]

by my calcs

 

 

2018 player budget was 7.8m 2013 was 5.3m in todays money accounting for inflation thats 6m so the wage bill in 2013 is about 75% that it is now

 

 

btw

 

turnover 2013 was 7.85m turnover now 15.3 million we have gone from a wages to turnover of about 67% down to 56%

 

so you could argue how we are doing a number of ways

[aberdeen1970]

Do we know if he was given a pay rise?

There's absolutely nowhere where it says he got a pay rise. People are jumping to conclusions

[V for Vendetta]

Of course, but it's a results-based business (and McInnes, more than any other single person, would be credited with being responsible for improving our results).

Aye? And a manager can do that with no budget from his board?

[V for Vendetta]

by my calcs

 

 

2018 player budget was 7.8m 2013 was 5.3m in todays money accounting for inflation thats 6m so the wage bill in 2013 is about 75% that it is now

 

 

btw

 

turnover 2013 was 7.85m turnover now 15.3 million we have gone from a wages to turnover of about 67% down to 56%

 

so you could argue how we are doing a number of ways

Nice figures, ta.

 

There isn't really any argument from my perspective - all the peices have to fit together.

 

McInnes has been a very solid manager for us granted.

 

But it's nonsense for people to suggest he has single handedly turned around the club.

[Dunty]

Lennon- No

Gerrard - No

Allesio - Great CV as 2nd man. Too early to tell

Heckingbottam - Great start but then fell away. Too early to tell

Levein - No

Wright - No

Robinson - Potential, but hard to call

Rice - Great start but then fell away. Too early to tell

Holt - Not yet, needs more experience

Goodwin - Great start to his managerial career, has potential but will be interesting to see how he fares with St mirren. Was a welt of a player

Ferguson and Kettlewell - Don't know enough about them.

 

So as it stands I think McInnes deserves to continue in the role

While I agree with you, let's be honest here, before he went to the Huns we'd all have loved Gerrard here.

[HairyPie]

While I agree with you, let's be honest here, before he went to the Huns we'd all have loved Gerrard here.

 

Fit?  Sorry, I have no respect or unfounded hero-worship for guff fitba.  I turn it off if it sneaks on the telly.  I would have hated him at Aberdeen.  I don't live in Sky TV world.

[TheRock]

While I agree with you, let's be honest here, before he went to the Huns we'd all have loved Gerrard here.

I can say with all sincerity, no I wouldn't have.

[BWG]

While I agree with you, let's be honest here, before he went to the Huns we'd all have loved Gerrard here.

 

gr8 b8 m8

[Bamber]

While I agree with you, let's be honest here, before he went to the Huns we'd all have loved Gerrard here.

 

 

Too much of a risk totally unproven - is he really doing anything? he is 2nd  playing massively higher wages hasn't even got to a final yet (av weekly wage rangers £8.9k Aberdeen £2.9k)

 

is that really a success manager?

[afc1903mad]

While I agree with you, let's be honest here, before he went to the Huns we'd all have loved Gerrard here.

 

I think the others above have clearly identified, we all wouldn't.

 

 

Too much of a risk totally unproven - is he really doing anything? he is 2nd  playing massively higher wages hasn't even got to a final yet (av wage rangers £8.9k Aberdeen £2.9k)

 

is that really a success manager?

 

Absolutely, their lucky run last year in the Europa league papered over the cracks for them.

Lets see if they manage the same next year.

Hopefully no luck of the draw / decisions in games this time.

 

Some tough teams in QR3

 

 

Seeded teams coef.

CL-Q2nc @2 54.500 

CL-Q2nc @2 44.000 

Sparta Praha Cze 35.500 

Sporting Braga Por 31.000 

AA Gent (??) Bel 29.500 

Legia Warsaw * Pol 24.500 

Eintracht Frankfurt ** Ger 

FCSB * Rom 23.000 

Feyenoord Ned 22.000 

Espanyol ** Esp 20.713 

Malmö FF * Swe 20.000 

Partizan Belgrade ** Srb 18.000 

Wolverhampton Wanderers**Eng 

Spartak Moscow Rus 16.000 

Torino ** Ita 14.945 

AEK Athens Gre 14.000 

FC Midtjylland Den 14.000 

Molde FK * Nor 13.500 

NK Rijeka Cro 13.500 

Apollon Limassol * Cyp 12.000 

Hapoel Beer-Sheva * Isr 12.000 

RC Strasbourg ** Fra 11.699 

Zorya Luhansk ** Ukr 11.500 

AZ Alkmaar ** Ned 10.500 

Arsenal Tula ** Rus 10.109 

Vitória Guimarães ** Por 9.646 

 

With QR4 even tougher

 

Seeded teams coef.

AS Roma ** Ita 81.000 

CL-Q2nc @2 37.000 - 54.500 

Sparta Praha *3 Cze 35.500 

CL-Q2nc @2 33.000 - 44.000 

Sporting Braga *3 Por 31.000 

AA Gent ** Bel 29.500 

Legia Warsaw * Pol 24.500 

Eintracht Frankfurt ** Ger 24.000 

FCSB * Rom 23.000 RC 

Feyenoord *3 Ned 22.000 

Espanyol ** Esp 20.713 

Malmö FF * Swe 20.000 

Partizan Belgrade ** Srb 18.000

[Scotty_Toronto]

Aye? And a manager can do that with no budget from his board?

 

A 'board' wouldn't be 'a single person'.

 

(Please re-read.)

 

Of course, but it's a results-based business (and McInnes, more than any other single person, would be credited with being responsible for improving our results). 

[Hoppy]

While I agree with you, let's be honest here, before he went to the Huns we'd all have loved Gerrard here.

Haha! You buffoon.

[Scotty_Toronto]

Nice figures, ta.

 

There isn't really any argument from my perspective - all the peices have to fit together.

 

McInnes has been a very solid manager for us granted.

 

But it's nonsense for people to suggest he has single handedly turned around the club.

 

Well, I certainly didn't say or imply that.

 

Being the single biggest reason wouldn't equate to 'single-handed'.

[starryfish]

Could we not have waited until ten games into the season before extending their contracts? Seems like reward for what, on paper, looks a decent summer transfer window.

[Ten Caat]

While I agree with you, let's be honest here, before he went to the Huns we'd all have loved Gerrard here.

 

I'd rather have removed my haemorrhoids with an industrial sander than seen that gype appointed here, even before he started wearing an orange sash

[Hoppy]

While I agree with you, let's be honest here, before he went to the Huns we'd all have loved Gerrard here.

^^^

Millertime

[maryhilldon]

While I agree with you, let's be honest here, before he went to the Huns we'd all have loved Gerrard here.

I hope you're embarrassed. Ridiculous statement.

[Scotty_Toronto]

Could we not have waited until ten games into the season before extending their contracts? Seems like reward for what, on paper, looks a decent summer transfer window.

 

It would appear to be a moral-boosting show of commitment timed to coincide with the eve of our first competitive game of the season.

 

(It won't hurt with recruitment of the midfielder we're looking for, either.)

[tightbreeks]

I hate to say it but the sooner we get a new ground the better, at least we'll not be training like a sunday league team, driving to training in your fitba gear!

[Big Hat Logan]

Nice figures, ta.

 

There isn't really any argument from my perspective - all the peices have to fit together.

 

McInnes has been a very solid manager for us granted.

 

But it's nonsense for people to suggest he has single handedly turned around the club.

In regards to professional standards he has. We are no longer seen as a club where players come and put in half arsed displays for decent wages and are out on the piss every night.

 

We have been a joke club for years until mcinnes was appointed.

[Big Hat Logan]

McInnes has clearly caused attendance to drop.

 

On 29th of October, 2011 we had an attendance of 15,468.

 

Then on 15th of May, 2015 we had an attendance of 10,003.

 

 

 

 

 

 

...do you see the problem with your argument?

Lol good 1 m8, you showed him

[Gilwern]

I thought success was when you won something?

League Cup on pens against ICT.

Not to bothered about if he stays or goes at the moment,but please don't count finishing runners up and failing to reach group stages of Europa as being successful.

Phew - your standards are high!

 

[Big Hat Logan]

I thought success was when you won something?

League Cup on pens against ICT.

Not to bothered about if he stays or goes at the moment,but please don't count finishing runners up and failing to reach group stages of Europa as being successful.

Yeah should get john Hughes or Neil Lennon instead

[afc_blockhead]

Yeah should get john Hughes or Neil Lennon instead

Dont listen to him . That idiot exists on stupid opinions and Talksport rumours.

 

He hates me bringing this up over and over but he suggested the current Montrose manager would be an upgrade as it would be "different' . He doesn't like mentioning it as he realised eventually it was stupid.

 

Hes a simpleton!

[Chewie37]

It would appear to be a moral-boosting show of commitment timed to coincide with the eve of our first competitive game of the season.

 

(It won't hurt with recruitment of the midfielder we're looking for, either.)

Also appears to be a smokescreen for the lack of an additional midfield signing before our first competitive match.......not that I’m being cynical in any way

[V for Vendetta]

A 'board' wouldn't be 'a single person'.

 

(Please re-read.)

I don't need to re-read it.

 

I never said a board would be a single person.

 

Maybe you need to re-read mine?

[V for Vendetta]

In regards to professional standards he has. We are no longer seen as a club where players come and put in half arsed displays for decent wages and are out on the piss every night.

 

We have been a joke club for years until mcinnes was appointed.

Along with Doc and arguably Brown yes that's a sensible way to put it.

[HairyPie]

Get the wifie manager in.