Ramandu Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Changed your mind Tord?Beat me to it. I'm starting to think that Tord might not be as wise as I thought. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Plus side - We're signing players that we know quite a bit about and aren't completely shite We're getting players in early Ball was brilliant in spells, but also shite in others. Same with Taylor. Ball, Taylor and Main can't be on massive wages, which should make room for more players coming inNegatives None of our signings so far will excite the fans and bring them back to Pittodrie. Hedges, i'm on the fence about until i've seen him. But the other three? MEH None of the three of Ball, Taylor and Main really improves us. It's more "squad" players than anything else but I assume Taylor and Main will end up being starters. We BETTER be looking at a better CM than Ball to battle it out in midfield. Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Beat me to it. I'm starting to think that Tord might not be as wise as I thought.He's been on a steep decline.@@DD1903 Link to comment
Tord31 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Decline or not. Dom Ball and Stephen Gleeson are not good enough - I dont want to be carrying both in the squad 2 Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Decline or not. Dom Ball and Stephen Gleeson are not good enough - I dont want to be carrying both in the squad Are you Shinnies replacement? Link to comment
Tord31 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 However we judge McInnes after the window has closed (with a very slight nod towards the start of Europa and start of SPFL season) so i'll save any long rant for then. Thumbs down to squad fillers for me though. We need to freshen things up with a few first pick players - we need the dough for those players Link to comment
Tord31 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 It's a message of ok lads we've fucked it on the signings of a bosman so we'll bring in Dom Ball and go for a loan signing later on instead Link to comment
TheRock Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Maybe we have to be realistic but I never like us to sign players as 'squad' players. We should be signing people we think are good enough to be starting 11 players and the players who end up on the bench are just the players who are being kept out the side by the form of other players. We shouldn't be signing people we know aren't good enough specifically to sit on the bench. Maybe I'm not being realistic there and at our level we need to have Dom Balls who will never start if everyone is fit but can come in a 'do a job' in a few different positions. Saying a player can 'do a job' never sounds good. He's not great but he can do a job. Makes them sound very mediocre. Having said all this, Dom Ball actually has looked more than decent in patches. End of the 17/18 in midfield and occasionally when Shay was out. Link to comment
Ernie McCracken Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Let's see if he can grab himself a hattrick by fucking up in the Scottish Cup semi final next season. Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 5pm, must be Signing o'Clock surely? Link to comment
DD1903 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 He's been on a steep decline.@@DD1903 Link to comment
DelMonte Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Ball is a good midfielder and should be left to play there. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Not exactly inspiring but only a rumour at this stage. Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I think Ball also has faith in the manager as I’m sure he’s more than good enough for any team bar Celtic. 1 Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Ball is a good midfielder and should be left to play there.This is true. His best games were in a centre mid role where he wasn’t expected to make a killer final pass. Much like flood in his first season. Everyone bemoaned the lack of depth late in the season just gone so now McInnes is signing extra bodies that are not necessarily starters when everyone is fit. The result is the same though, folk greeting and moaning. 1 Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Let's see if he can grab himself a hattrick by fucking up in the Scottish Cup semi final next season.Or fucking up in the final like McLean and Hayes? Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Don’t see the need for two first pick midfielders? Surely we go with ferguson plus two of our wide players. Assuming we want Main up front pressing alongside Cosgrove that leaves one does it not? Essentially it’s a ball playing cunt a la Rico we need. Depends on how high we’re playing our currently non existent left back of course. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Don’t see the need for two first pick midfielders? Surely we go with ferguson plus two of our wide players. Assuming we want Main up front pressing alongside Cosgrove that leaves one does it not? Essentially it’s a ball playing cunt a la Rico we need. Depends on how high we’re playing our currently non existent left back of course.Last summer we had the following to play centre mid: Shinnie, Ferguson, Ball, Forrester, Gleeson, Hoban, Tansey and Campbell Since then Ferguson has vastly improved, Campbell is a year older and Gleeson has been written off Now we haveFerguson, Gleeson and Campbell We need two so that we have the option to play 3 in there and to cover for injuries. Gleeson will most likely leave this summer and Campbell should be bled in to the team to be full time by the end of the season (so therefore would not be against a loan or old player for one of the two signings). If we only sign one and the new player or Ferguson are out injured we are in a desperate position Link to comment
BWG Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 Gleeson isn't leaving without us paying up his contract. The fat cunt kens full well its part time wages for him after us. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Based on his previous CV we'll manage to punt him out on loan in August to League One, League Two or National League Never to be seen again. Need to get the majority of our business done first though Gleeson, Forrester and Tansey - some of the worst fuck ups in our history (given the dosh/week). 20 starts between them maybe? Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Gleeson is nowhere near as bad as the other two. Not even close. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Aye he's a footballer for sure. Shame he cant run and DM doesnt fancy him Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Aye he's a footballer for sure. Shame he cant run and DM doesnt fancy himHe's good at what he does - unfortunately, mcinnes doesnt seem to fancy that. If he had scouted him properly, he would have known what kind of player Gleeson was and not wasted a significant wage on him. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 He's good at what he does - unfortunately, mcinnes doesnt seem to fancy that. If he had scouted him properly, he would have known what kind of player Gleeson was and not wasted a significant wage on him.unfortunately we spent the whole of last year chasing McGeouch so we had no time/resource to chase/negotiate other plans Link to comment
Studebaker-90 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Very much falls in to the Ash Taylor bracket of signing. Fine for a back up but probably not the sort of player we should be looking at for the first 11. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Last summer we had the following to play centre mid: Shinnie, Ferguson, Ball, Forrester, Gleeson, Hoban, Tansey and Campbell Since then Ferguson has vastly improved, Campbell is a year older and Gleeson has been written off Now we haveFerguson, Gleeson and Campbell We need two so that we have the option to play 3 in there and to cover for injuries. Gleeson will most likely leave this summer and Campbell should be bled in to the team to be full time by the end of the season (so therefore would not be against a loan or old player for one of the two signings). If we only sign one and the new player or Ferguson are out injured we are in a desperate position Where's your evidence that Gleeson will likely leave? To do so he'd either need to be paid off by the club a la Forrester ( won't be doing that twice in 6 months) or find a club elsewhere that wants him (unlikely in Scotland/England given he's been root. Possibly in Ireland but with us picking up a massive percentage of his wages). I think we are stuck with him Link to comment
Tord31 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Where's your evidence that Gleeson will likely leave? To do so he'd either need to be paid off by the club a la Forrester ( won't be doing that twice in 6 months) or find a club elsewhere that wants him (unlikely in Scotland/England given he's been root. Possibly in Ireland but with us picking up a massive percentage of his wages). I think we are stuck with himThe evidence is DM doesnt fancy him. The evidence is DM normally solves these 'problems' sooner rather than later. Same as May though he'll certainly be staying if there is no upside to him leaving Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 unfortunately we spent the whole of last year chasing McGeouch so we had no time/resource to chase/negotiate other plansWell that's a failing on Mcinnes and his scouting team. Link to comment
Foster14 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 unfortunately we spent the whole of last year chasing McGeouch so we had no time/resource to chase/negotiate other plans Sunderland signed McGeouch on the 2nd July. We signed Gleeson almost a fortnight earlier on 19th June... Link to comment
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