Which Celebrity Will Die Next ?

[jamiesd]

Jim Mclean....RIP.  Should of managed Scotland.

[Parklife]

19 minutes ago, milne_afc said:

Where you seen this Parko? Big #respect for Wee Jum. Dons trophy haul would be greatly reduced without his influence in Scottish footy.

Being reported various places. Not anywhere official as yet though. Would be a pretty sick wind up if someone has made it up. 

[frankie_mac's_4]

Sad news if so. A proper old school fitba man who took no shit fae anyone. The type of bloke who'd be fitba-unemployable nowadays to be fair.

RIP wee Jum.

[Parklife]

Mind him attacking John Barnes (the reporter). He definitely took no shit, nor "stupid questions like that".  

[shut up meg]

But a fantastic manager RS

[frankie_mac's_4]

3 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Whether he's dead or not I always thought he came across as a bit of a bully. Young players were probably terrified of him. Is that good managing?  He had a bit of success at Dundee Utd ( 3 trophies in 23 years or something) but why did he never go down south to manage at a higher level?

Overrated beyond belief imo. 

Nae doot, he was a dinosaur hanz. As I say he'd be unemployable in fitba management nowadays.

Give the man his due though - check oot Dundee Utd's European record during that period and say he didnae get results. A proper fitba man.

[jamiesd]

similar character to Archie Knox maybe?

[shut up meg]

2 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Whether he's dead or not I always thought he came across as a bit of a bully. Young players were probably terrified of him. Is that good managing?  He had a bit of success at Dundee Utd ( 3 trophies in 23 years or something) but why did he never go down south to manage at a higher level?

Overrated beyond belief imo. 

Overrated? Behave yourself hanz!

He took Dundee United, a shitey wee club that averaged under 10k crowds to the QF of the UEFA Cup in 82 and 83, the SF of the European Cup in 84 and the final of the UEFA cup in 87.

He was also up against an all conquering Aberdeen team and an OF that carried all the usual advantages of playing semi finals and finals in their home town.

He was a bully but was of his time. 

 

[Guest milne_afc]

Bullies have their place in the circle of life too.

[aberdeen1970]

Why did he need to go down south and prove himself? 

He took Dundee United to a title, a European trophy and a European Cup semi final.  Is that not enough to prove himself? 

[Bluto10]

12 minutes ago, milne_afc said:

Bullies have their place in the circle of life too.

biff tannen is the best of the lot imo

[aberdeen1970]

1 minute ago, Sooper-hanz said:

He did ok with Dundee Utd.  If he had won a European trophy it would have confirmed hm as a proper ledge. We're taking about a time when Nottingham Forrest won the European Cup twice, Aston Villa won it as well and Ipswich Town also had success in Europe. 

 

You're on the wind up Hanz. 

Jim McLean did a fantastic job at Dundee United. Of that there is absolutely no question. 

Cloughie winning two European Cups doesn't alter that in any way.

[Bluto10]

Just now, Sooper-hanz said:

He did ok with Dundee Utd.  If he had won a European trophy it would have confirmed hm as a proper ledge. We're taking about a time when Nottingham Forrest won the European Cup twice, Aston Villa won it as well and Ipswich Town also had success in Europe. 

 

as did Spurs amazingly enough (only jokin cockers @China)

I enjoyed their 87 season. esp the IFK and Mirren games.

 

he’s deffo a handful of rungs below the top brass (SAF\Buzzers\Steeen\Cloughie)

 

[aberdeen1970]

1 minute ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Which one was that? Must have missed that. 

Sorry, I meant to type European final. 

[shut up meg]

8 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Why did he need to go down south and prove himself? 

He took Dundee United to a title, a European trophy and a European Cup semi final.  Is that not enough to prove himself? 

I had a conversation with a Geordie that I worked with about Willie Miller, he said that if Miller was so good, why did he stay at Aberdeen?

I replied that he didn't need to go anywhere because in the early 80's, leaving Aberdeen to go to down south was a near certain step down.

It's the same with McLean, the opportunities he would have had would almost certainly been a step down, at the time, Dundee United was in the top 25 teams in Europe.

[The Cockney Don]

Can't see anything about Jim McLean in the news.

Chic McLelland died though https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55454098, only 63. 

[Arabian Knight]

stick tae britpop eh..fake news onywiy..ez still kickin

[frankie_mac's_4]

All I can say is nae cunt's got near the level that Ferguson or McLean got their clubs to in close to 40 years, hanz. True, it's a different game but that fact remains.

[Bluto10]

I’d put him in the 76-100 range probably of top UK managers

[aberdeen1970]

20 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

I'm not . I think he did well with Dundee Utd but is 3 trophies in 23 years fantastic?   Alex Smith did better. 

Aye but Jim McLean totally transformed a club and kept them competitive at a high level for over a few generations.  Smithy never had to do that. 

[Fridge]

Ha was a bully though and had players on fucking ten year contracts so they couldn’t leave. There is no doubting his achievements but I won’t be taking the knee for him, thought he was a prick.

[Guest milne_afc]

It was good management within the laws of the game. Got it  absolutely spot on for his club with the added bonus of flicking the vees at the Old Firm

[aberdeen1970]

3 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Smith won three trophies in 4 years . That’s what counts 

Alex Smith didn't go down south to prove himself either. Which seems to be another thing that counts with you. 

[Guest milne_afc]

7 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Smith won three trophies in 4 years . That’s what counts 

Smith won 1

Scott and Smith won 2

 

[Poodler]

So is he dead or not?

[NEM]

4 hours ago, Sooper-hanz said:

haha, you know what I meant .  Alex Smith won three trophies in the space of 4 years. More of a legend imo.

Alex Smith wasn’t manager of a tinpot outfit at the time 

[The Boofon]

Wish Alex Smith was dead. 
 

Spineless cunt. 

[NEM]

5 hours ago, rocket_scientist said:

They won the league only because we won the ECWC and the SC. That's an incredible achievement for a club of that size in that 2-club city. He is a legend in those parts. 

FIFY

They’d have won nowt if our minds weren’t elsewhere 

[Parklife]

2 hours ago, Poodler said:

So is he dead or not?

 

2 hours ago, Sooper-hanz said:

nah

Ignore Hanz. Yes, Jim McLean has died. 

[NEM]

1 minute ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Neither was Jim McLean when he won his trophies 

?

 

Of course he was. Not even the biggest club on their street