Life Without The Ugly Sisters

[aberdeen1970]

Won't happen. Cunts like Killi wanted the huns to remain in the top flight when they died ffs.

 

It would still be goer without Kilmarnock.

 

Kilmarnock are a club with a different outlook nowadays though. I don't think its nailed on they would vote the same way today as they did back in 2012

[Betty Swallicks]

It would still be goer without Kilmarnock.

 

Kilmarnock are a club with a different outlook nowadays though. I don't think its nailed on they would vote the same way today as they did back in 2012

 

Its not just Kilmarnock tho. There are numerous clubs that happily bow to the bigots because they think we'd be fucked without them.

 

Our own chairman is hardly an anti old film hardliner himself.

[aberdeen1970]

Its not just Kilmarnock tho. There are numerous clubs that happily bow to the bigots because they think we'd be fucked without them.

 

Our own chairman is hardly an anti old film hardliner himself.

 

I hear what you are saying.

 

I think there would be a different outlook now.  Armageddon post 2012 didn't happen.  Lots of clubs maintained or increased their average attendances during that period, experienced some success in cups, got into Europe etc.  Once people's eyes are opened to new possibilities its almost impossible to close them again.

[HairyPie]

Stewart Milne has a development he is trying to sell in Renfrew.  About a ten-half away from Ibrox.  It wouldn't make great business sense for him to alienate his potential customers, however disgusting they may be. 

[beer gut]

Our Governing body has nothing but contempt for the fans and there is zero appetite for meaningful change within our game. All they do is tinker with the number of clubs and fuck about introducing the split. Clubs could get change quite quickly if they really wanted. If every club just said fuck it. We will no longer play any matches against the Tims or Sevco the arse cheeks would soon realise that the clubs outwith Glasgow aren't there just to make up the numbers and are important to their success. The whole league set-up is designed to stop any change. The 11-1 voting system being a prime example. We need more competition, fairness and transparency in our game. There are so many things that need to be fixed its hard to know where to even start. 

[NEM]

Stewart Milne has a development he is trying to sell in Renfrew.  About a ten-half away from Ibrox.  It wouldn't make great business sense for him to alienate his potential customers, however disgusting they may be. 

 

 

Clear conflict of interest - get the baldy clown to fuck out of our club

[Shinniesta]

A league without the ugly sisters would be great but will never happen unless they get the green light to join the English leagues. The Scottish clubs will never have the balls to stand up to them and threaten a breakaway league without them.

 

The problem (for the ugly sisters) playing in England is that after an initial maybe 5 or 10 year adrenaline rush the fans of would get bored and hugely frustrated at mid table mediocrity, relegation dogfights (maybe even being relegated once or twice), winning fuck all trophies and very little or no European football. Their fans are so used to winning and lording it over smaller clubs and over each other it's in their DNA the thick cunts can't accept anything else. Helicopter Sunday's would just be a pipe dream. I think crowds and interest would eventually dwindle when they realise they can't compete with the big London & Manchester clubs, Liverpool etc even with EPL TV money.

 

I reckon after a decade or so a high percentage of their fans would want their club to come back to Scottish football so they could be "winners" again but obviously those that run the ugly sisters clubs would never do it due to the money they would be leaving behind. I would fucking love that to happen.

[Zander1903]

Even if they went to Engerland im sure they'd still have a colt team to keep us in our place

 

cant deny they have a huge financial advantage over all the rest of us but using the sfa to give them a sporting advantage over other teams in the league is completely out of order 

 

 

question time are the SFA accountable to anyone? there was something mentioned about a referees "ombudsman" looking into this seasons decisions but dunno if the SFA as a organization come under the same scrutiny

[strachanmcgheegoal]

A league without the ugly sisters would be great but will never happen unless they get the green light to join the English leagues. The Scottish clubs will never have the balls to stand up to them and threaten a breakaway league without them.

 

The problem (for the ugly sisters) playing in England is that after an initial maybe 5 or 10 year adrenaline rush the fans of would get bored and hugely frustrated at mid table mediocrity, relegation dogfights (maybe even being relegated once or twice), winning fuck all trophies and very little or no European football. Their fans are so used to winning and lording it over smaller clubs and over each other it's in their DNA the thick cunts can't accept anything else. Helicopter Sunday's would just be a pipe dream. I think crowds and interest would eventually dwindle when they realise they can't compete with the big London & Manchester clubs, Liverpool etc even with EPL TV money.

 

I reckon after a decade or so a high percentage of their fans would want their club to come back to Scottish football so they could be "winners" again but obviously those that run the ugly sisters clubs would never do it due to the money they would be leaving behind. I would fucking love that to happen.

A/. Hence my opposition to any bastard offspring “colt” team remaining.

 

B/. The most transparent evidence as to the arse inter cheek dependency. Why do you think Celtic didn’t wipe the Hun out when they had the chance and go it alone? Fucking petrified of what would happen that’s why. But they will go arm in arm hopefully sooner rather than later and use two derbies per year to disguise the fact it’s 12th against 14th. Hopefully within months of the sky bubble bursting. No sky money, no Europe. No squad advantage or compliant authorities. aye good luck with that you glory hunting cunts.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

On a completely unrelated subject. Rothes dob themselves in for fielding an ineligible player in one match. 3 points immediately withdrawn. Now if only there was a precedent for this....

[fine-n-dandy]

It would still be goer without Kilmarnock.

 

Kilmarnock are a club with a different outlook nowadays though. I don't think its nailed on they would vote the same way today as they did back in 2012

Killie chairman is clearly a Hun lover, as witnessed during the whole Fergusson tribunal.

Killie will ALWAYS be arse licking the arse cheeks. They still give the cunts BOTH ends of their ground ffs.

Last thing they would ever want is no arse cheeks to lick the shit off.

 

Probably quite a few club chairmen/board members that have leanings towards either of the cheeks but they are at the clubs they are at because there just isn't enough positions/jobs for all of them at their favoured arse cheek club.

 

The only reason the game is fkd in Scotland is because there are roles filled all over the game in this country by countless lovers of either cheek. From media, board members, chairmen, refs/officials, managers, tribunal panels, police, & especial at top levels making decisions within SPFL & SFA.

 

Game is completely run by the cunts top to bottom & it is only getting worse again now that there is a clear & obvious drive to get 'The Old Firm' back to something resembling their former glorious competitive rivalry 'in their eyes' & they do not & never have given a shit about the rest of the clubs in Scotland, other than simple cannon fodder to help make them look good & to use as feeder clubs.

[aberdeen1970]

I think you're confusing Hamilton with Kilmarnock.

 

But I agree with your general point.

[Ernie McCracken]

I think you're confusing Hamilton with Kilmarnock.

 

But I agree with your general point.

I remember a few years back someone posted up the Airdrie chairman's programme notes, and it was basically a Hun propaganda piece.

[aberdeen1970]

I quite liked Shinniesta's take on it. The idea of them being lost in English football mediocrity forever has a lot of appeal.

[V for Vendetta]

Killie chairman is clearly a Hun lover, as witnessed during the whole Fergusson tribunal.

Killie will ALWAYS be arse licking the arse cheeks. They still give the cunts BOTH ends of their ground ffs.

Last thing they would ever want is no arse cheeks to lick the shit off.

 

Probably quite a few club chairmen/board members that have leanings towards either of the cheeks but they are at the clubs they are at because there just isn't enough positions/jobs for all of them at their favoured arse cheek club.

 

The only reason the game is fkd in Scotland is because there are roles filled all over the game in this country by countless lovers of either cheek. From media, board members, chairmen, refs/officials, managers, tribunal panels, police, & especial at top levels making decisions within SPFL & SFA.

 

Game is completely run by the cunts top to bottom & it is only getting worse again now that there is a clear & obvious drive to get 'The Old Firm' back to something resembling their former glorious competitive rivalry 'in their eyes' & they do not & never have given a shit about the rest of the clubs in Scotland, other than simple cannon fodder to help make them look good & to use as feeder clubs.

There's actually a degree of truth in this.

 

We've seen some of it come into plain view and can only suspect how much is still hidden but it's definitely there to some extent.

 

When then SPL merged with the SFL Longmuir was the SFL top guy. Complete hun. Linked to some odd corruption scandal about special payments I seem to recall and quietly goes on his way. But how much damage was done before?

 

His right hand man at the time, the Airdrie director (Bannatyne I think) also a complete hun. Also dodgy as fuck but of course hid involvement in the game is as an "Airdrie" man. Was it fuck.

 

I strongly suspect there are a fair number of chairman and directors of smaller clubs in Scotland who have a "Big team".

 

When the various boards, panels, bodies of governance are created how many of these smaller club representatives are actually also there to look after the interests of their "big team"

 

It's all so unprofessional this sort of thing could easily happen and because it can happen I'm pretty sure it does- natural selection suggests this sort of thing will flourish if the opportunity is there.

 

Eventually you come to the conclusion that the only solution is for the big teams to go away or be forcibly made less "big".

 

Ps - a professional level of governance would be a start. We don't have that.

[Ernie McCracken]

Scottish football should just go for a complete split.

 

We don't need 40 clubs, we just need 10 or 12. Providing we have ourselves, the Edinburgh and Dundee clubs, the Highland clubs and the likes of St Johnstone it would be a goer.

 

As highlighted a lot of the smaller clubs have vested interest in the old firm so they can fucking stay if they like.

 

The old firm can fight it out in their league destroying the likes of Cowdenbeath on the way to the title, whilst the rest of us could get on with a proper competition.

[V for Vendetta]

Scottish football should just go for a complete split.

 

We don't need 40 clubs, we just need 10 or 12. Providing we have ourselves, the Edinburgh and Dundee clubs, the Highland clubs and the likes of St Johnstone it would be a goer.

 

As highlighted a lot of the smaller clubs have vested interest in the old firm so they can fucking stay if they like.

 

The old firm can fight it out in their league destroying the likes of Cowdenbeath on the way to the title, whilst the rest of us could get on with a proper competition.

It would never happen but.... It's actually entirely logical and as good as any other plan.

 

Ps- I think we could take more the 12, maybe 16 clubs or 18. But 12 is a great start.

[aberdeen1970]

That's not a bad idea Ernie.

 

We'd be banned from Europe mind you as we'd be seen as rebel clubs.

 

The answer is to bring down the current SFA and spfl as part of the breakaway

[V for Vendetta]

Also... If this did happen you can guarantee that within a few years the old firm cunts would fuck off to another league somewhere screwing the sycophants who propped them up.

 

Could gather up any decent remainders we wanted at that point I guess.

[V for Vendetta]

That's not a bad idea Ernie.

 

We'd be banned from Europe mind you as we'd be seen as rebel clubs.

 

The answer is to bring down the current SFA and spfl as part of the breakaway

Short term we have to forget Europe to progress things anyway.

 

Chasing the European crap is killing our game tbh.

[Ernie McCracken]

That's not a bad idea Ernie.

 

We'd be banned from Europe mind you as we'd be seen as rebel clubs.

 

The answer is to bring down the current SFA and spfl as part of the breakaway

The other part of the plan is that we'd have to plan ahead.

 

Say three years in advance.

 

All interested clubs would enter into a multi party agreement not to sign players on contracts expiring beyond the planned resignation date.

 

That way clubs will be in a position to restructure their wage bills for the new league if required as the revenue stream will likely be lower to start with.

[V for Vendetta]

Salary caps. Squad limits. Limited loans.

 

It's the only way.

 

Just a pity we can't have a draft type of leveller and enforce contracts in the way the NFL do.

[Ke1t]

Salary caps. Squad limits. Limited loans.

 

It's the only way.

 

Just a pity we can't have a draft type of leveller and enforce contracts in the way the NFL do.

 

You probably could have something similar, but no cunt in Scotland would go for it simply because Scots fear change, or see getting ideas from somewhere else to be some kind of admission of failure of the Scottish way of doing things. 

 

Salary caps is a great idea. The transfer window is just fucking pointless at this stage so scrap that. 

 

But the bottom line is that the Scottish game is broken beyond repair... it needs a clear out at the top and a reorganisation of the game from grass roots to professional, 

 

Again.. no cunt will even entertain the notion.

[V for Vendetta]

You probably could have something similar, but no cunt in Scotland would go for it simply because Scots fear change, or see getting ideas from somewhere else to be some kind of admission of failure of the Scottish way of doing things.

 

Salary caps is a great idea. The transfer window is just fucking pointless at this stage so scrap that.

 

But the bottom line is that the Scottish game is broken beyond repair... it needs a clear out at the top and a reorganisation of the game from grass roots to professional,

 

Again.. no cunt will even entertain the notion.

Absolutely.

 

I've said this before, most Scottish fans don't want radical change. No matter how shit it gets they just want to stick to the same old shite and hate anything different.

 

So.. we get the game we deserve. 100%.

 

It's the reason I'm not really a proper paying fan anymore and haven't been for years.

 

Fuck being actually invested in something so terminally myopic and insular.

[fine-n-dandy]

I think you're confusing Hamilton with Kilmarnock.

But I agree with your general point.

Yeah right enough, my mistake but aye same same. Killie/Hamilton both ploukes on the same arse cheek.

[fine-n-dandy]

Celtic claiming there is some kind of agenda against their club within the other clubs in Scotland after Hibs & then us refused to sell them McGinn/McKenna.

 

This is the kind of shite we have to listen to & they are that full of their own self importance, they actually believe this shit, just because in the past most clubs (many still do) were forced to bend over & take what ever they offer for players like it is their right to just cherry pick on the cheap.

 

Disgusting fkn vermin is all they are & all they want is what is best for themselves even at the cost of the game as a whole in this country.

 

The ONLY reason the Scottish league/football is basically seen as a joke by all other countries & is worth fk all financially & in credibility is 100% down to the arse cheeks & those forcing preference/favour toward them.

 

Their arrogance has long been the downfall of our game.

 

We used to have one of the most feared collection of teams in Europe when all things were a little more even balanced.

[mcdougall(4)]

Salary caps. Squad limits. Limited loans.

 

It's the only way.

 

Just a pity we can't have a draft type of leveller and enforce contracts in the way the NFL do.

 

 

Employment law prevents salary caps.

 

The ONLY reason that it works in other countries, namely the US, is because they get exemptions.

 

If the Scottish Parliament was willing to grant Scottish football teams such a thing then there would at that stage be no reason not to.

 

FFP sure as hell doesn't work.

At any level.

[tiktak]

I'd be interested to know where you would set the salary caps. You going to set them just so we can compete with the OF? Or so that a St Johnstone or Hamilton or whoever can compete with us? 

[Ke1t]

I'd be interested to know where you would set the salary caps. You going to set them just so we can compete with the OF? Or so that a St Johnstone or Hamilton or whoever can compete with us? 

 

That would be for a competent governing body to decide, but hopefully it would be implemented in a way that encourages a more competitive playing field than currently exists. 

[mcdougall(4)]

I'd be interested to know where you would set the salary caps. You going to set them just so we can compete with the OF? Or so that a St Johnstone or Hamilton or whoever can compete with us? 

 

 

there are multiple options for a salary cap, hard, soft, luxury tax.

 

the most simplistic would be to look at what clubs currently spend as a % of turnover, find an average, then look at those turnover figures, again find an average and set as the % of that, the biggest spanner is europe in setting the figures