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I’m sure they like the fluidity of non-VAR football but I wonder if Southampton fans are quite so supportive of its absence at the moment. (the off-side, it was never ever a foul)

Bonus points for keeping some them out of it as well.

As others have said though, we’ve deliberately tried to look to “a class above” (generous I know) to give us a chance in higher level matches like Saturdays. Thats left us short in base level games, the ones we all describe as “should be winning.” You can argue the toss if we’re losing those games because our class-aboves are nothing of the sort, or simply if they are ill equipped for that type of game. Gartenmans a good example. For me it’s a bit of both. I like that we’ve moved away from football luminaries like May and Main and are looking to Duk, Polvara, Sokler and of course Miovski. But unquestionably we’ve lacked ‘dig’ as a result. The back 5 killed us. We all agree on that. Shinnie and Barron haven’t quite worked meaning McGrath and Clarkson have been dragged into less attractive roles. And zero creativity has isolated our front 3, two of whom were on the bench. See back 5 comment for details. In summary, balance dear boy, balance!

Never recovered from Runo Guttuso in my opinion

He picked the side? The side that everyone acknowledged we had absolutely no alternative to? That side?

Im delighted to hear it. Im just acknowledging its a dangerous game to play for a week or two.

Who are you callin cunt you facking cunt Brilliant

Interesting twist (although outcome is the same) on the above. The arse cheek one referred to was Dessers on Lagerbielke at Mordor in September. It is more of a foul - the infamous planted foot - whereas in ours Kyogo does toe the ball from the side first. Ref that day, who goes to the monitor to absolutely check? One Don Robertson.

Always reminds me of the Harry Redknapp story, when a 12m striker asked him for a goal bonus. What the fuck do you think the 12m for?

This is the risk when you get into the "re-refereeing the game situation." Using the Macdonald one as an example in real time I don't think its a foul. The replay shows (I understand, havent checked) that Kyogo does put two hands on Macdonald. Its therefore possible to manufacture a technical foul in slow motion where in reality what you might call a practical foul doesn't exist. All well and good, and unquestionably gets into the realms of that thats not what VAR was brought in for. Your weariness simply with that is understandable. But in Scotland I think its beyond question that whilst we are doing that, we're only doing it in certain situations, and not even consistently within those. You can argue whether the arse cheeks continually being both the focus and typically the beneficiaries of those as mere co-incidence if you want.

Id rather we put a few "lesser" sides back in their boxes first. Could do both of course

He had that frustrating my way or high way thing going on especially with the back 5. God fell into exactly the same trap. Would love to know if he’s any regrets with regards the cup final.

Fwiw I’m like you Roberto, looked clearly off on tv still (yes, tight, but off) and never thought any more of it. I’ll watch back for the CCV contact but as you say, immaterial. Suspect the Notts Forest / Man U penalty (handball) will run for a wee while. Don’t expect Dave to do much with ours, not till Mwell and Livvie are taken care of.

I think we’re at cross purposes I was talking about the handball incident. The oddity with the Hoilet one is why initially let play go on? Is he playing advantage to Celtic literally 5 yards from their own goal? If he was sent to the monitor do you think he’s going to overturn the ‘foul’ he himself awarded? And fwiw do you think Celtics 85% crowd might just influence that?

For the hand ball the difficulty they had was the ball not going out so VAR can’t intervene until it does. When it eventually goes out they can intervene to check the penalty only. I’m guessing the tapes will show they conclusively proved the ball and hand were outside the box before the game stopped hence no referral to the screen. Which is to say we pay a six figure sum annually for a system to say, (all affishul n’that like naw but) Move along cuntoes nothing to see here.