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Outfought, the number of second balls we lost was remarkable - Chidi kept McGinn quiet in the first half - maybe fitness was a factor - second half we were second best everywhere - Christie was shocking and could have been hooked after 20 minutes - strikers absolutely anonymous so bringing on Maynard at the end was typical McInnes - he ain't going to score - cruelty for the fans and the player - presumably McInnes likes giving him a go in case after 20 odd games he suddenly turns out to be Ronaldo in disguise..

 

We were dire. McInnes was predictable.

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We did okay in the first half, but our usual slow start in the second cost us, Hibs get their tails up with the early goal and we struggled. Christie looked mince today so our midfield was like a man down. We just were made to look sluggish and poor positional sense in attack which meant they were easily able to break against us when we got up to their box.......Can’t wait for next Sunday now.....I’ll bring spare pants

His performances have tailed off. It's a game that needed someone to take the ball in and keep possession, he all too often not got man handled off the ball.

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Second half demonstrated precisely why were so reliant on Shinnie. We play to create second balls and then just hope he wins them for us. Lennon has done us with a simple 5 man midfield (albeit everyone acknowledges his basic middle 3 are one of the best if not the best in the country). Had a wee inkling this was coming watching King and Stanton play through us last week. Can only hope the tims are distracted by Europe.

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If McInnes was willing to go without compensation we could afford Clarkes compensation I am sure but we are stuck with McInnes because I doubt many would want to pay compensation for him now. Well his attractiveness is certainly diminishing by the week.

and that's exactly what's eating away at DM right now. I'm certain that having turned down 2/2 high profile jobs, he would leap at the next half decent role, in the fear that could be his last chance. I'm of the school that every manager these days has a shelf life. I think he's done a very good but far from stellar job for us.

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If McInnes was willing to go without compensation we could afford Clarkes compensation I am sure but we are stuck with McInnes because I doubt many would want to pay compensation for him now. Well his attractiveness is certainly diminishing by the week.

Scottish Cup remains massive for McInnes.

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and that's exactly what's eating away at DM right now. I'm certain that having turned down 2/2 high profile jobs, he would leap at the next half decent role, in the fear that could be his last chance. I'm of the school that every manager these days has a shelf life. I think he's done a very good but far from stellar job for us.

agreed

Scottish Cup remains massive for McInnes.

also agreed but looking more & more like it could be our only route into Europa at the earliest stage. A few teams have a decent chance of winning the cup.

Hearts win it & we could potentially not even make Europa at all.

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and that's exactly what's eating away at DM right now. I'm certain that having turned down 2/2 high profile jobs, he would leap at the next half decent role, in the fear that could be his last chance. I'm of the school that every manager these days has a shelf life. I think he's done a very good but far from stellar job for us.

I don't think it's eating into McInnes that he turned down Sunderland when you see how poor they are and how desperately a far bigger managerial name in Chris Coleman is struggling there. That was a no win job for anyone no way is McInnes regretting turning that gig down.

 

Does he regret turning down the huns? Possibly who knows. They've signed some good players both permanently and on loan since he turned them down players he no doubt would have loved to get here but I'm sure he hears the same rumours we do in that they are still in desperate financial straights and that the house of cards that is TRFC could easily crumble anytime hence their rather desperate efforts to try to coax someone into paying well over the odds for their rather average prize asset Morelos. He obviously got that feeling when he spoke to them hence turning them down.

 

But I do think the next time a decent sized English club comes in for him he will go. He has done reasonsbly well here and brought respectability back but I don't think he will still be the manager once the new training facility is hopefully ready for use at the start of season 2019/20.

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Im starting to think see similarities in McInnes reign to the final 18 months of the oaf.

He touted himself to English clubs and in the end nothing came of it.

And like the oaf, Aberdeen will be the biggest club he will manage.

I think McInnes despite his rhetoric is only interested in furthering the cause of Derek McInnes,

Two high profile jobs both arguably bigger than us he has turned down.

Maybe due to both being basket cases, or maybe both were a gamble both required him to show some bottle win big games something that has been lacking in the last 18 months.

I'm at the stage now where I feel he has taken us as far as he can its now about whether AFC can or wants to progress further.

McInnes is starting to box himself into a corner his only route to Nigel land now is going to be a league1 side at best and get them up or perform well, I think the championship job direct from us is dead in the water now.

So it's up to him he will be allowed to coast along as he is now .Milne has made it clear McInnes is here for as long as he wants. And that makes it worse bi pressure on him to win these big games

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It was always going to be a difficult game today and unfortunately when the going gets tough...we disappear.

 

There is absolutely no chance of us winning the SC. We might beat Killie although that is by no means certain, but whoever we get in the semi final is bound to be a step too far. The manager`s record in the games against the bigot brothers is absolutely horrendous.

 

Losing a match to Hibs at Easter Road is not the point here - they are a very decent side on their day. The big issue is the abject failure of the manager to motivate his players, demonstrate tactical awareness, or come up with an inspirational plan B when required. He can`t do it.

 

We do need a change at the top to alter the mindset among the players - just look at Steve Clarke and what he has achieved so far in a relatively short period at Killie.

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Soiled underwear everywhere.

Ah & there it is. The standard response to those that complain. Even when the complaints are justifiable, the simple minded happy clappers will adopt, or even adapt the bed wetting excuse.

How about offering counter discussion & or debate rather than dry your eyes type nonsense, or just ignore it for those that wish to vent & discuss the obvious weaknesses & flaws in the team.

 

Do you not see issues within the team? Or do you not care & just see the game as entertainment without much passion?

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Since winning 1-0 14/10 at #EasterRoad #Dons away results against other teams in top four have been: 0-3 v Rangers, 0-3 v Celtic, 0-2 v Rangers, and now today 0-2 v Hibs. In summary P4 W0 D0 L4 GF 0 GA 10 These are games you have to win so have to wonder about DM's tactics.

 

 

COYR! ALL4AURORA

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Since winning 1-0 14/10 at #EasterRoad #Dons away results against other teams in top four have been: 0-3 v Rangers, 0-3 v Celtic, 0-2 v Rangers, and now today 0-2 v Hibs. In summary P4 W0 D0 L4 GF 0 GA 10 These are games you have to win so have to wonder about DM's tactics.

COYR! ALL4AURORA

Similar tactics to Craig old fart Brown in them. Play for draw, hope to win but if we do concede then hold hands up & hope the opponents take pity & do not rout us because we are waving the white flag.
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It was always going to be a difficult game today and unfortunately when the going gets tough...we disappear.

 

There is absolutely no chance of us winning the SC. We might beat Killie although that is by no means certain, but whoever we get in the semi final is bound to be a step too far. The manager`s record in the games against the bigot brothers is absolutely horrendous.

 

Losing a match to Hibs at Easter Road is not the point here - they are a very decent side on their day. The big issue is the abject failure of the manager to motivate his players, demonstrate tactical awareness, or come up with an inspirational plan B when required. He can`t do it.

 

We do need a change at the top to alter the mindset among the players - just look at Steve Clarke and what he has achieved so far in a relatively short period at Killie.

It's very easy to say that but what Steve Clarke has done is pretty unusual and not the norm when a Scottish team changes their manager. You're more likely to get a Cathro, MacKinnon, Lee Clarke, Owen Coyle or Terry Butcher (at Hibs) scenario than Clarke's at a Killie if we were to change a manager who currently still has us in second place halfway through February and ego has finally judged second three seasons running. I wonder if the Ross County chairman still thinks removing Jim McIntyre was the right decision. Tango man got removed after finishing 4th and qualifying for Europe and was replaced by the man many were hailing as the Steve Clarke of that particular time (McGhee) after his Murderwell team finished in 3rd place the season before.

 

The bottom line is that as long as McInnes finishes top 3 or 4 in the league he is the manager of AFC as long as he wants. Milne has made that clear he thinks he has the golden goose because of all the previous duds he employed. We're still second in the league and whilst we are still in and around there then no way will anyone at the club contemplate removing McInnes. It is frustrating that we lose most of the big games but the reality is his record as AFC manager is better head to head against every team outside the ugly sisters. Milne is happy with that he is happy with being best of the rest as he thinks it's realistically as good as we can be.

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It's very easy to say that but what Steve Clarke has done is pretty unusual and not the norm when a Scottish team changes their manager. You're more likely to get a Cathro, MacKinnon, Lee Clarke, Owen Coyle or Terry Butcher (at Hibs) scenario than Clarke's at a Killie if we were to change a manager who currently still has us in second place halfway through February and ego has finally judged second three seasons running. I wonder if the Ross County chairman still thinks removing Jim McIntyre was the right decision. Tango man got removed after finishing 4th and qualifying for Europe and was replaced by the man many were hailing as the Steve Clarke of that particular time (McGhee) after his Murderwell team finished in 3rd place the season before.

The bottom line is that as long as McInnes finishes top 3 or 4 in the league he is the manager of AFC as long as he wants. Milne has made that clear he thinks he has the golden goose because of all the previous duds he employed. We're still second in the league and whilst we are still in and around there then no way will anyone at the club contemplate removing McInnes. It is frustrating that we lose most of the big games but the reality is his record as AFC manager is better head to head against every team outside the ugly sisters. Milne is happy with that he is happy with being best of the rest as he thinks it's realistically as good as we can be.

Your remark about all the previous duds is such a major factor it really shouldn't be just be little remark.

 

McInnes has brought us happiness but what went on before is a large part of that & what McInnes is gaining extra credit somewhat unjustly for.

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It's very easy to say that but what Steve Clarke has done is pretty unusual and not the norm when a Scottish team changes their manager. You're more likely to get a Cathro, MacKinnon, Lee Clarke, Owen Coyle or Terry Butcher (at Hibs) scenario than Clarke's at a Killie if we were to change a manager who currently still has us in second place halfway through February and ego has finally judged second three seasons running. I wonder if the Ross County chairman still thinks removing Jim McIntyre was the right decision. Tango man got removed after finishing 4th and qualifying for Europe and was replaced by the man many were hailing as the Steve Clarke of that particular time (McGhee) after his Murderwell team finished in 3rd place the season before.

 

The bottom line is that as long as McInnes finishes top 3 or 4 in the league he is the manager of AFC as long as he wants. Milne has made that clear he thinks he has the golden goose because of all the previous duds he employed. We're still second in the league and whilst we are still in and around there then no way will anyone at the club contemplate removing McInnes. It is frustrating that we lose most of the big games but the reality is his record as AFC manager is better head to head against every team outside the ugly sisters. Milne is happy with that he is happy with being best of the rest as he thinks it's realistically as good as we can be.

Spot on .

McInnes is here for as long as he himself chooses.and he knows that.

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Your remark about all the previous duds is such a major factor it really shouldn't be just be little remark.

McInnes has brought us happiness but what went on before is a large part of that & what McInnes is gaining extra credit somewhat unjustly for.

It is a larger factor than it should be I agree because we have had such dross managing the club for such a long time prior to his arrival.

 

But the reality is that no non old firm club would even contemplate removing a manager with three consecutive second place finishes and who in mid February is still in second place above one of the ugly sisters. It's just reality. There's no real point anyone suggesting removing him as it just isn't going to happen unless he finished bottom 6 two years running or something along those lines.

 

McInnes' tenure at AFC will end when he decides the time is right.

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