Aberdeen sack Derek McInnes

[alscotoz]

Arguable that McNeill laid the foundations for Fergie..........Porterfield was just the wrong appointment for us as he didn’t understand Scottish football. But yeah, the next Fergie would be nice lol

 

McNeill built on what McLeod did...what McLeod really did was instil belief at the club. His period was short but it was pivotal.

[Guest the shepherd]

Modern football mangers have time lines and I feel that McIness time has past, he’s did well in his time here and will be remembered fondly here. I do believe the 2016-17 season after reaching both finals, beating the Huns down there for the first time in years and smashing a few teams for 7 was the time he should have went his peak was there! He’s just went through the motions now.

 

Is there anyone else out there to take us the next level? For every McNeil there is a Fergie, but could also be a Porterfield to every Fergie

 

[DelMonte]

[Ten Caat]

 

 

I genuinely felt sorry for Ian Porterfield as he had the unenviable task of trying to emulate Alex Ferguson and some of the Pittodrie faithful were not very accommodating of him, to say the least, and never gave him the time of day. 

 

 

Porterfield signed Gary Hackett and Tom Jones...….2 of the biggest duds ever to have pulled on the jersey for us. He was out of his depth and he knew it, though your point about having an unenviable ( and impossible) task of following Fergie is undeniably valid.

[Ten Caat]

‍Contender for post of the year, well said min. Derek McInnes definitely peaked with his Aberdeen project two seasons back, when it was a joy to behold some of our performances and results. We are just going through the motions just now, whilst still being competitive with celtic, giving us a glimmer of hope that we may be able to win something.

 

I genuinely felt sorry for Ian Porterfield as he had the unenviable task of trying to emulate Alex Ferguson and some of the Pittodrie faithful were not very accommodating of him, to say the least, and never gave him the time of day. Ferguson was very cute in the timing of leaving Aberdeen when the blank cheque book days was in full flow at a certain club and he jumped shipped knowing he would be unable to keep Aberdeen at the top, as Scottish football had changed forever.

 

Porterfield signed Gary Hackett and Tom Jones.....2 of the biggest duds ever to pull on the jersey for us. He totally underestimated the strength of Scottish football. Was out of his depth and he knew it by the time he left. Your point about him having an unenviable task following Fergie is undeniably valid though. It was impossible for anyone.

[BWG]

Should have got Jim McLean.  Baldy heided cunt.

[Guest the shepherd]

He was getting slated by the usual culprits on here during that season.

Aye, it laid the foundations of what we know as AFC Chat today

[Guest the shepherd]

Porterfield signed Gary Hackett and Tom Jones.....2 of the biggest duds ever to pull on the jersey for us. He totally underestimated the strength of Scottish football. Was out of his depth and he knew it by the time he left. Your point about him having an unenviable task following Fergie is undeniably valid though. It was impossible for anyone.

Gary Hackett was signed as a replacement for Peter Weir after Ian Porterfield sold him on the cheap, and well under market value, to Leicester City for £200,000 (if my memory is still working correctly). The difference between the two was night and day, however not Hackett's fault that he was replacing an Aberdeen legend as I cannot think of any one player that could have filled the void of Peter Weir.

[Hewitt a the pies]

I'm hardly a massive fan of McInnes but he deserves a chance to turn it around after one mediocre season.

LC Finalists, 3rd in the league and SC Winners wont be classed as mediocre! 

[S2RDS]

LC Finalists, 3rd in the league and SC Winners wont be classed as mediocre! 

... or LC finalists, 6th in the league and binned by Celtic. Its a tightrope Spud...

 

I think if we were playing well I would be more optimistic of achieving something this season, but we have massively regressed since the start of the year. Have we peaked under McInnes? I think we probably have. Rangers are a fucking basketcase and the results against them and our run at Christmas have likely papered over some of the cracks in some fans eyes and have "saved" McInnes from some serious backlash this season. We are awful to watch at the moment, but i really hope he proves me wrong in the cup... thats where it matters. 

[Chewie37]

McNeill built on what McLeod did...what McLeod really did was instil belief at the club. His period was short but it was pivotal.

Very good point, we did well with progression between managers, hopefully history repeats itself and we get a manager after DM that can build on what he’s setup, which folk have to admit is a far more professional club culture than previously

 

And the two last posts show exactly why our fans are split over DM, we could end up with a very successful looking season finale despite being pretty shit in parts, or have a bad looking season finale because of being shit.......

[Jocky Balboa]

Very good point, we did well with progression between managers, hopefully history repeats itself and we get a manager after DM that can build on what he’s setup, which folk have to admit is a far more professional club culture than previously

 

And the two last posts show exactly why our fans are split over DM, we could end up with a very successful looking season finale despite being pretty shit in parts, or have a bad looking season finale because of being shit.......

Interesting comparisons being made with previous managers. My grandfather (75 years a fan) always credited Turnbull as a pivotal figure in our history, a no-nonsense guy who oversaw a huge overhaul of the squad and the culture at the Club.

 

IMHO I think the next manager needs to be as much a Turnbull as he is a McLeod, given the need to revamp the squad, at a time when new training facilities are (finally!) on the way.

[aberdeen1970]

But what's he doing different this season that he didn't in 2016/17, or isn't doing now that he did back then?

 

He certainly wasn't credited with being more positive, he wasn't seen as braver against the Old Firm. He was criticised for his signings back then too (he signed Stockley, Alexander, Storey, Morris, O'Connor and Lewis - so one big success. Loans were Burns, Maddison & Christie).

 

The team seemed to have a better mentality then. For whatever reason, they aren't setting as high a bar as they usually are, and are picking and choosing their performances.

 

But, they could still do what that 16/17 team didn't do and beat Celtic at Hampden. They could also win the cup. It's that sort of season.

He's not doing anything differently.

 

The difference is he had a better set of first team players in midfield and upfront in 2016-17. Also the main core of that team had stayed together for a few years.

We also had more pace in the team. And less loan players in the regular starting eleven.

[Chewie37]

Interesting comparisons being made with previous managers. My grandfather (75 years a fan) always credited Turnbull as a pivotal figure in our history, a no-nonsense guy who oversaw a huge overhaul of the squad and the culture at the Club.

IMHO I think the next manager needs to be as much a Turnbull as he is a McLeod, given the need to revamp the squad, at a time when new training facilities are (finally!) on the way.

How apt that an overhaul of the squad and change in culture at the club, led to some amazing success, DM certainly has laid some decent foundations, it’s going to be a case of who can push it further, squeeze everything out of the board possible and build a must win at all costs attitude

[alscotoz]

How apt that an overhaul of the squad and change in culture at the club, led to some amazing success, DM certainly has laid some decent foundations, it’s going to be a case of who can push it further, squeeze everything out of the board possible and build a must win at all costs attitude

 

 

Two words...Scott Brown

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AllyDon]

How apt that an overhaul of the squad and change in culture at the club, led to some amazing success, DM certainly has laid some decent foundations, it’s going to be a case of who can push it further, squeeze everything out of the board possible and build a must win at all costs attitude

 

Agree, especially with the last point.

[Jocky Balboa]

How apt that an overhaul of the squad and change in culture at the club, led to some amazing success, DM certainly has laid some decent foundations, it’s going to be a case of who can push it further, squeeze everything out of the board possible and build a must win at all costs attitude

I agree, which is why I think we need another Turnbull type. That said, the danger is that we may end up with someone who is too cavalier and tries to change to much too soon...

[Chewie37]

Two words...Scott Brown :

Nooooooo waaaaaaaayyyyy

 

[tightbreeks]

Wow. We actually took the game to motherwell and guess what. We won! More of the same please deek.

[Guest]

Decided to watch golf today, in expectation of failure.

However didn't expect extent of failure.

Given that I have had many disappointing return journeys from Hampden I really feel for the thousands returning tonight.

DM has to go to allow momentum to be built pre the new stadium.

[fine-n-dandy]

McInnes will be next hun manager

 

I am happy with that.

[Zander1903]

Every summer it feels to me that holidays come 1st before signing players, probably work going behind the scenes but we never seem to be ready for Europe

 

need help spotting players as too much money has been wasted signing donkeys & crocks in the last couple seasons

[Zeus]

Out

[Yorston Vasey]

McInnes will be next hun manager

 

I am happy with that.

Done himself a power of good in his quest to be the next head hun by calling the Celtic fans out on being sectarian badtards. Huns will lap that up, he'll be forgiven for turning them down the first time.

[caledonia]

Out

Agree Negative cunt who has won one league cup

Even st Johnstone won the Scottish

[Ten Caat]

McInnes will be next hun manager

 

I am happy with that.

 

Wishful thinking. He won't get another chance at that job after embarrassing them when he turned them down 18 months back. 

[cruzcampo3]

His stock keeps dropping each year and with every defeat in the big games that him moving on being approached gets less every season. Loved by the club so very doubtful a sacking will happen and very unlikely will resign as will be even harder for him to get a job of such high profile.

 

Going be a very interesting couple seasons coming up. Gut feeling isn’t going be for the best either

[Jocky Balboa]

The most frustrating thing for me isn't so much that we're continually losing games like this, but the nature of the capitulations. We've let a VERY ordinary Sevco side run away with second place and an unspectacular Celtic side cruise to a likely third treble in a row, without so much as a fight.

 

I think the above is all the proof we need that McInnes has taken us as far as he can go, with his limitations and inability/refusal to learn from past mistakes. I fear this Summer will be like 2008 all over again, where we persisted with a manager who had clearly run his course, then subsequently went backwards as a direct result.

[Brochman]

Decided to watch golf today, in expectation of failure.

However didn't expect extent of failure.

Given that I have had many disappointing return journeys from Hampden I really feel for the thousands returning tonight.

DM has to go to allow momentum to be built pre the new stadium.

Also watched the golf. At least somebody in a red shirt played well today.

[Kiriakov33]

The WBA gig is still up for grabs... o Neil just signed a 3 year extension at Preston. I wouldn’t be too sad to see him go now. Football has become stale and the club have taken him as far as it can.... the first team will almost need to be completely rebuilt in summer and , if , we get a bit of cash from McKenna / Fraser deals then I would like to see a new manager be given the opportunity to spend it.