Steve Clarke's First Squad

[shut up meg]

McKenna has looked pretty solid in the international games, can't just blame the CB every time Scotland concede. Some of our games a like 90 minutes of shooty in.

 

Ignore the usual suspect, he's a prick!

[boboisared]

Scotland played quite well. Certainly not an embarrassment. Belgium are one of the best teams in the world and you'll likely struggle to get good odds on them winning the actual tournament next year.

 

Shows how low we've dropped when that was an encouraging performance though.

[Redforever86]

De Bruyne looks like the lovechild of James Hewitt and Camila Parker Bowles.

Wee Tintin shaped cunt.

[aberdeen1970]

To be honest when I saw the teams I expected worse. Frustrating to lose goals in stoppage time at the end of both halves, a bit of tiredeness involved and switching off mentally.

 

They're a good side, hardly lost a game in the last 2 years. Doubt anyone in the group will take anything from games there.

 

Wee Maloney has landed on his feet there.

[shut up meg]

Reign it in

 

I want mckenna to be brilliant and if 10m is getting bandied about then hes going to be properly scrutinised

 

Fuck off mongo!

[boboisared]

Reign it in

 

I want mckenna to be brilliant and if 10m is getting bandied about then hes going to be properly scrutinised

If Lukaku is an £85m striker then you'd have to concede that McKenna played pretty well.

[Poodler]

I'd be too embarrassed to ask for someone's shirt

 

 

Though I do sheepishly apologise to Sultans for spamming them with shit videos of me on drugs every few days so maybe there is a natural hierarchy of things

[Ten Caat]

Fuck off mongo!

 

He doesn't care for that word

[Dusk( 2 Stars )Don]

Ach nae bad like thumbs up from me.

[fine-n-dandy]

He generally did yeah, but the one real fuck up cost a crucial goal

Best defenders in the world make those types of 'fk ups'

 

Especially your man love defender you worship as the perfect defender VVD. He's been caught out in exactly the same way this last season.

 

Rate him or not Lukakau has scored 30 in 30 games for the world champions & current world number 1 ranked side.

McKenna being the one you pick out to blame for the goal is just sad as fk & desperate from you. McKenna done as you would expect & didn't really make a mistake for the goal he was beaten by another big guy that had the advantage of being able to run at him & have him on the back foot.

 

MT has no fkn clue what he's talking about & the only time he's played football is when the teachers/parents were around & the other kids were forced to let him join in.

 

Like when Celtic let Wee Jay score a penalty

 

MT is Wee Jay but bet you Wee Jay reads the game better. Genuinely.

[fine-n-dandy]

Must be some damned player right enough to be scoring for both France AND Belgium.

You been on the Stella tonight old chap?

Lol WC finalists & No.1 ranked team. Oops or third place side whatever

 

Still not sure they got to ranked No.1 but they are are least

[BonnieDon]

I thought McKenna was really poor but I thought the Killie players were by far the worst. Definitely not capable of playing at international level. That should be an end to that experiment. Forrest and Burke (severely overhyped) were abysmal. McLean was dreadful too. I like Clarke as a manager but fear his stock will suffer for taking this job. The players he has available to choose from are simply not good enough.

[fine-n-dandy]

I thought McKenna was really poor but I thought the Killie players were by far the worst. Definitely not capable of playing at international level. That should be an end to that experiment. Forrest and Burke (severely overhyped) were abysmal. McLean was dreadful too. I like Clarke as a manager but fear his stock will suffer for taking this job. The players he has available to choose from are simply not good enough.

Little harsh if we are to judge so many players individually not taking into account what they were up against.

 

Did anyone except the idiotic Hibee boy expect a better result than 3-0 in reality?

 

Even Cyprus game. They aren’t as bad as it would seem. Russia struggled with them at home also.

 

We just have to accept the level we are at now. Depressing as that is.

 

Taylor & McLean are getting plenty credit it seems. Don’t think some were as bad as you think

[fine-n-dandy]

71% possession to our 29%

 

I think we got away with it in reality.

 

Team in such a mess as it is. Going to take a while until Clarke gets them better organised into his unattractive sloggers.

[DelMonte]

The more I watch it the more I think its ridiculous McKenna is being blamed. That is a great piece of movement from Lukaku to get the space.

[fine-n-dandy]

The more I watch it the more I think its ridiculous McKenna is being blamed. That is a great piece of movement from Lukaku to get the space.

Looking at the even bigger picture. Folk are bitching about us beating Cyprus (even though narrowly) & losing to Belgium lol

 

Fair enough the Khazaks but we have to give Clarke a chance. Won’t be pretty I am sure but he will improve the side as a whole in time.

 

Far too many dreamers of old & fantasists judging at moment. Not that I can remember much of the old to dramatically compare against the current lot.

[JakieBastard]

This was why it was crucial that they got Clarke in before these games. The real 6 pointers come in the next couple of fixtures. By getting him in beforehand the SFA gave him a chance to work with the players and build up familiarity, safe in the knowledge that we were only realistically going to get 3 points from the two games.

 

The games in September are a different kettle of fish and we really need to be beating Russia and ideally taking something off of Belgium if we want to qualify. If we don't win either of them then it's all over

[Dynamo]

I'm not being a dick, genuinely asking

 

Should a top centre half not match the clever run from the attacker?

 

The attacker had a running start. Harder to jump as high from a standing start. I don't think there was much McKenna could do. If you watch Lukaku, he moves as if he's going to run towards the front post which McKenna mimics, then changes direction. Good centre forward play. The only thing you could say is McKenna could have been closer in the first place. 

 

The real issue is the number of Scotland players just watching Hazard retrieve the ball. FFS, thats basic shit.

[DelMonte]

I'm not being a dick, genuinely asking

 

Should a top centre half not match the clever run from the attacker?

When Lukaku makes that move and its put up to the back post I think there's about 2 centre halves in the world who would deal with it. Watch the goal back and look how he goes into front post and then peels off. It's an absolute nightmare to defend hence why we should be looking at stopping that situation well before that.

 

What's a top centre half? Don't think anyone is saying McKenna is. It's a case of him being worth a lot cause he has good potential. He's learning in these games as he goes along. Robertson made plenty mistakes at Hull but these players learn. Mckennas general play shows he can handle this level with some more experience.

[DelMonte]

.to use your example though, robertson had moved to hull by the time he was 20, this is when he really kicked on

 

McKenna is what, 22 now?

 

If he is to develop to that next level he is in danger of missing the boat?

Likely move this summer and get more games at a better level. From there just got to see where it goes.

 

The potential is still there. He done well overall against a top team and provided our best moment with his run forward.

[Pash]

The attacker had a running start. Harder to jump as high from a standing start. I don't think there was much McKenna could do. If you watch Lukaku, he moves as if he's going to run towards the front post which McKenna mimics, then changes direction. Good centre forward play. The only thing you could say is McKenna could have been closer in the first place. 

 

The real issue is the number of Scotland players just watching Hazard retrieve the ball. FFS, thats basic shit.

 

Bingo.

[Dynamo]

Yep, time for him to go I think to prevent stalling

He's still way off his peak age. He's had one full season in the first team.

[G31DON]

27 to 30 generally considered peak years for a centre half.

[Henry]

I dont care much for that word, thanks

 

Ah you got in a bit of bother with that one before.

 

http://www.afc-chat.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=30798&hl=psychoanalysis

[boboisared]

Scotland fans are mental.

 

McKenna shite. Killie players shite. McLean shite. McGregor shite. Burke shite.

 

Look at the players they are up against. I don't think one player let the team down last night. Several blips in concentration but we put up a great showing considering they've been under this regime for what, a week and a half?

[eeps]

Scotland fans are mental.

 

McKenna shite. Killie players shite. McLean shite. McGregor shite. Burke shite.

 

Look at the players they are up against. I don't think one player let the team down last night. Several blips in concentration but we put up a great showing considering they've been under this regime for what, a week and a half?

Indeed, early signs for Clarke's regime are promising

[minijc]

Scotland fans are mental.

 

McKenna shite. Killie players shite. McLean shite. McGregor shite. Burke shite.

 

Look at the players they are up against. I don't think one player let the team down last night. Several blips in concentration but we put up a great showing considering they've been under this regime for what, a week and a half?

genuinely the worst cunts going, weegie centric fuds that have no real grasp of football.

[King Street Loon]

The more I watch it the more I think its ridiculous McKenna is being blamed. That is a great piece of movement from Lukaku to get the space.

I agree, McKenna was fine.

One second McKenna was touch tight on Lukaku, the next he's made the space to get his fizzog on the cross.

It's those who stopped for what seemed like an eternity and allowed the cross who should be singled out.

[boboisared]

genuinely the worst cunts going, weegie centric fuds that have no real grasp of football.

Twitter was unreal. The amount of Hearts fans complaining that Souttar should be ahead of McKenna. Souttar can pass the ball better, that's about it. Lukaku would have retired him last night.

[boboisared]

I agree, McKenna was fine.

One second McKenna was touch tight on Lukaku, the next he's made the space to get his fizzog on the cross.

It's those who stopped for what seemed like an eternity and allowed the cross who should be singled out.

Exactly.

 

There's a reason Lukaku starts for Belgium and Man Utd.