The Boofon Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Can Chelsea recall their 40 loan players instead of buying folk? Of course they can. Link to comment
Kiriakov33 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 F*ck me, this seems to be a standard trope these days... Of course he'll see some of it, just don't be expecting to go on a £5 million spending spree either... Same with the McKenna money when he's sold... 25% of the profits would be a fair and reasonable amount to expect to go into the transfer kitty based on the board's claim that any fee received for players (Hayes, Rooney etc) has gone back into the playing budget... Whilst it would be naive to assume DMc would get all of the RFC (ooooh...) it's what he ends up doing with it that worries me more...It’s also naive to think that if Fraser does get sold for 30million for example that a cheque for 5-6 million or whatever would be on its way north. Likely to paid in instalments over length of contract or when certain criteria are met ie number of appearances. The initial cash paid for the player based on 30 million couid be 10-15. Link to comment
boboisared Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 It’s also naive to think that if Fraser does get sold for 30million for example that a cheque for 5-6 million or whatever would be on its way north. Likely to paid in instalments over length of contract or when certain criteria are met ie number of appearances. The initial cash paid for the player based on 30 million couid be 10-15.I'd imagine we'll get our installments as Bournemouth get theirs. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I dont think instalments would really matter. we have plenty benefactors that would be happy to put the money up if it is just for a short term smoothing out of cash flow Link to comment
TheRock Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 It all goes on the balance sheet. Presumably any money reinvested would be going towards wages rather than transfer fees anyway so we're going to be spending it over 2/3 years anyway. Link to comment
Studebaker-90 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I dont think instalments would really matter. we have plenty benefactors that would be happy to put the money up if it is just for a short term smoothing out of cash flowAgreed. Instalments will be contractually agreed then it will be budgeted for so there is assurance that any short term director loans will be repaid. Might need to ask Ten Caat though, heard he has signed professional contracts before. 3 Link to comment
Chewie37 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Here's the boring explanation!! Aberdeen are a company so pay corporation tax, which is a tax on profits (after adjusting for various items) and don't pay capital gains tax. However if you have made losses in the past then you can typically use these losses to offset future profits and avoid paying tax. At the end of last year Aberdeen had almost £25Million of tax losses brought forward so it will be a loooooooong time until AFC ever pay tax to HMRC, if ever. There is VAT on transfer fees so what we receive for Fraser will depend on what Bournemouth receive. If they sell for £30M plus VAT then we will receive £6M plus VAT. The VAT is a bit of a red herring as that is money that is received and then paid over to HMRC so we would clear £6Million (likely over a number of years I would expect). If Bournemouth receive £30M including VAT then that is the equivalent of £25M plus VAT so we would get £5M plus VAT so would clear £5M. Hopefully that is not clear as mud!!It would appear someone actually knows what they’re talking about on here for once, instead of guessing games, +1 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Wonder how much of a bonus the directors will get from the deal.In particularly a certain non executive director waste of space who’s name is the colour of shite. Link to comment
Chewie37 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Wonder how much of a bonus the directors will get from the deal.In particularly a certain non executive director waste of space who’s name is the colour of shite.Apparently it was Willie Miller who arranged the clause? Now it’s my turn to pass on information from dubious hearsay Link to comment
Kiriakov33 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 It would appear someone actually knows what they’re talking about on here for once, instead of guessing games, +1A good explanation on the tax implications not the structure on how it will be paid. As someone earlier said far better than I did , we will get paid when Burnley do. It could take the length of the contract he signs to get the full amount. My earlier point was that IF he signs for Arsenal for 30m we won’t receive 6m instantly so fans shouldn’t expect the club to start throwing cash about. Link to comment
Chewie37 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 A good explanation on the tax implications not the structure on how it will be paid. As someone earlier said far better than I did , we will get paid when Burnley do. It could take the length of the contract he signs to get the full amount. My earlier point was that IF he signs for Arsenal for 30m we won’t receive 6m instantly so fans shouldn’t expect the club to start throwing cash about.Yeah, it’s possible, no one will know the exact makeup of any deal until it’s done and dusted. It’s very likely that Arsenal and Burnley will insert plenty of clauses themselves which could alter any payments to us. Who knows? Link to comment
RUL Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Apparently it was Willie Miller who arranged the clause? Now it’s my turn to pass on information from dubious hearsay Would be some achievement as Willie left the club in June 2012. Link to comment
Kiriakov33 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Yeah, it’s possible, no one will know the exact makeup of any deal until it’s done and dusted. It’s very likely that Arsenal and Burnley will insert plenty of clauses themselves which could alter any payments to us. Who knows?Yep , you’re right. If anyone is interested there’s a book called done deal written by a lawyer/agent that goes into the detail of players contracts. Decent read if you’re into that kind of thing. Some of the things written into players contracts is nuts.. Link to comment
NEM Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 The fucks it got to do with Burnley? 1 Link to comment
Chewie37 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 The fucks it got to do with Burnley? Hahaha fuck knows, that’s what happens when you’ve nae had much sleep..........write others mistakes in too lol Link to comment
Chewie37 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Would be some achievement as Willie left the club in June 2012.Aye, he did, like I said, just passing on what others claimed. Think he signed him on his first professional contract anyway and folk are claiming that Willie started the sell on clauses, but again, who knows? Link to comment
Ke1t Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I can see Chelsea signing Fraser. He'd be a good replacement of Hazard. I'm hoping the bids reach 40 million - Wolves, Tottenham, Chelsea, Arsenal, Newcastle, Liverpool and Manchester Utd all have declared an interest in him this summer. I doubt McInnes would see any of that money as it'll got straight towards the new stadium. Rightly so, on various levels. Link to comment
Torry Tosser Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 English Press saying Manure Utd now after him. Link to comment
RUL Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Wish someone would just buy him for an obscene amount of money. Link to comment
NEM Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Wish someone would just buy him for an obscene amount of money. Bidding war is the best outcome - £50 million or so should clinch it Link to comment
Redstar Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Bidding war is the best outcome - £50 million or so should clinch itAye it'll be interesting to see how much someone is willing to pay for a player who was rated as only worthy of a £400 a week contract offer from the GWT... 1 Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Ouch! The old duffer will always be the gentleman wage thief to you Redstar. Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Milne must be ready to book himself into Ross clinic with severe depression with the Fraser saga. If it happens the money Aberdeen get will go straight into the Wiggy Bank forever. 1 Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Milne must be ready to book himself into Ross clinic with severe depression with the Fraser saga. If it happens the money Aberdeen get will go straight into the Wiggy Bank forever.Aye? Defrauding the business of their income now is he? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 We need Real Madrid/Barca, or Bayern Munich to start showing an interest as well to make the English clubs bump up their interest & valuations some more. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Aye it'll be interesting to see how much someone is willing to pay for a player who was rated as only worthy of a £400 a week contract offer from the GWT...& the cunts still getting to hang about the club in his pishy breeks Link to comment
Chewie37 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 & the cunts still getting to hang about the club in his pishy breeksAnd he’s still the last Scotland manager at a major finals AND banged more birds than most of us.......old cunt Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 And he’s still the last Scotland manager at a major finals AND banged more birds than most of us.......old cuntBut does he remember? Daft auld fk Link to comment
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