zander Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Would it be better if they lost a few more domestic games and then got knocked out? Don't think anyone will catch them in the league but it would be nice to see the "invincible" tag further trashed.Aye and give them more TV and gate money at the same time. Eejit. 1 Link to comment
Panda Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 So do we want them to get knocked out of Europe or sneak through to maintain the wear and tear on their squad for a few more weeks?I hope they win. I never want them to progress in the champions league because of the money on offer, but no harm to Scottish football if they get through a few rounds in the Europa League. I still hold out the insane hope that one day our coefficient will improve to the level where we get two Champions League spots (which if we had then the past few years Aberdeen would have been the main beneficiary). Obviously I hope Celtic don't actually win the thing. Little chance of that anyway. I reckon they'll lose 3-0 tonight. Zenit played within themselves last week, they won't be that poor again tonight. 1 Link to comment
The Boofon Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I hope they win. I never want them to progress in the champions league because of the money on offer, but no harm to Scottish football if they get through a few rounds in the Europa League. I still hold out the insane hope that one day our coefficient will improve to the level where we get two Champions League spots (which if we had then the past few years Aberdeen would have been the main beneficiary). Obviously I hope Celtic don't actually win the thing. Little chance of that anyway. I reckon they'll lose 3-0 tonight. Zenit played within themselves last week, they won't be that poor again tonight. 1 Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Not greedy. Extra Time and penalties.They lose with every celtic penalty taker's bottle spectacularly crashing.Tiernay to require more dental work.Dembele to blow his hamstring big styleDe Vries to hurt his back helping carry him offAnyone, just anyone, to wipe that fucking smile off Lustig's pus And finally Scott Brown to get a special St Petersburg welcome off 20 leather jacketed Leningrad ultras. Link to comment
Panda Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Well argued, I've changed my opinion completely after reading that. The level of debate on this forum is unrivalled anywhere. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Well argued, I've changed my opinion completely after reading that. The level of debate on this forum is unrivalled anywhere. The co-efficient being higher means fuck all in the grand scheme of things. We need to concentrate on domestic football. Celtic gaining more millions to get us two games less in Europe is utter nonsense. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Aye and give them more TV and gate money at the same time. Eejit. Give what they get from CL its a drop in the ocean and doesn't make much difference at this stage imo. If we were in the early qualifiers I'd be happy to see them bomb out on the basis they don't get the millions on offer but this isn't worth as much and I'd laugh to see another CB get injured or Brown tear a hamstring or something while chasing a Europa cup they'll never win anyway - all the better for us, Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Not greedy. Extra Time and penalties.They lose with every celtic penalty taker's bottle spectacularly crashing.Tiernay to require more dental work.Dembele to blow his hamstring big styleDe Vries to hurt his back helping carry him offAnyone, just anyone, to wipe that fucking smile off Lustig's pus And finally Scott Brown to get a special St Petersburg welcome off 20 leather jacketed Leningrad ultras. I'd settle for this. Link to comment
Panda Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 The co-efficient being higher means fuck all in the grand scheme of things.That's not really true is it. If it got to a level where we had more European spots, that would help other clubs (well, or does if they don't then get emptied by a club from Belarus or Luxembourg), and if it got to a level (however unrealistic at the moment) where we had two Champions League spots, that would be huge for Aberdeen. Even if we didn't reach the groups, we get the fall-back of going into the Europa League. Romania, Czech Republic or Greece, relatively small leagues like ourselves who this season had two CL spots. Maybe it didn't do a huge amount for them but they sure as hell wouldn't be keen to give them up. We need to concentrate on domestic football. Celtic gaining more millions to get us two games less in Europe is utter nonsense.The money Celtic make off a few sell-outs in the Europa League is not going to change the outlook of Scottish football. The Champions League money is a different matter which is why I never want them to reach the group stage. But they can do what they like in the Europa League. 1 Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 So do we want them to get knocked out of Europe or sneak through to maintain the wear and tear on their squad for a few more weeks? Lose heavily and with multiple injuries Link to comment
E-P-K Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Celtic will get pumped tonight, Zenit have scored 29 goals in their last 9 home games. And the weather is -14, with wind chill -21. Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 After WhatsApp discussions with pals that are Celtic fans 1 Link to comment
Don Shula Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 That's not really true is it. If it got to a level where we had more European spots, that would help other clubs (well, or does if they don't then get emptied by a club from Belarus or Luxembourg), and if it got to a level (however unrealistic at the moment) where we had two Champions League spots, that would be huge for Aberdeen. Even if we didn't reach the groups, we get the fall-back of going into the Europa League. Romania, Czech Republic or Greece, relatively small leagues like ourselves who this season had two CL spots. Maybe it didn't do a huge amount for them but they sure as hell wouldn't be keen to give them up. The money Celtic make off a few sell-outs in the Europa League is not going to change the outlook of Scottish football. The Champions League money is a different matter which is why I never want them to reach the group stage. But they can do what they like in the Europa League. Let me be the boring fart and put some number to all of this. On the coefficient Scotland are currently ranked 26th on 18.6 points. To get an extra Champions League spot you need to be 15th (and you also get an extra Europa League place so 6 teams in Europe). Currently Greece are 15th on 28.4 points. To put that into context the 10 point difference is the equivalent of Scotland winning 20 extra Group/knockout stages games or 40 extra pre Group stage games between our four countries over a 5-year period. Just to get to enter at a later round you need to be ranked 17th which is currently Denmark on 26 points. So the reality is we are a million miles away from being ranked that high and in reality it will take 2-3 years of at least 2 clubs making CL or EL Group stages and then most likely 1 making it through to knock-out stages. I won't hold my breath. On the money side this year Celtic will get in excess of £12Million in prize money from the CL plus their share of the marketing pool (not sure what that is but last year it was £13Million so no doubt will be at least that this year. So they get £25Million from CL plus gate money from their six games (another £10 Million?) minus expenses like player bonuses, travel costs, home match costs etc. So surely they clear £30Million from CL. From the Europa League if they beat Zenit they get an extra £1Million in prize money pus another home game (depends who they draw but maybe another £2Million gate money). Obviously they get more if they go further but Panda is right that it is a drop in the ocean compared with CL Given all of the above I see virtually no benefit to Aberdeen from Celtic winning tonight. Coefficient points are useless and whilst it is not CL level money fuck it even another £3M to them is enough to stockpile another 3 Jonny Hayes and further weaken competition in Scotland. We ain't catching them in the league so other than hoping for a bunch of injuries tonight I don't see any benefit to Aberdeen from a "tired" Celtic if they go more rounds 1 Link to comment
BWG Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Hope they get absolutely savaged tonight. Fuck Celtic. Link to comment
Don Shula Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 So what you are saying is, don't try improve then it's too hard work? No what I am saying is I am only interested in what is good for Aberdeen and if I have a choice of Celtic get £3M plus Scotland get 0.5 added to the coefficient or Celtic get fuck all as does the coefficient then my belief is that it is better for Aberdeen that Celtic get knocked out tonight, preferably after extra time and a four-hour flight delay plus a couple of injuries. Link to comment
maryhilldon Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Really hope celtic take a proper doing tonight, fuck the co-efficient. Link to comment
zander Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Really hope celtic take a proper doing tonight, fuck the co-efficient.Only people championing the co-efficent are the journalist and the guy who only wants the tims to do well to spite the huns. Link to comment
Guest RosemountRed Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Game kicks off at 9pm local time, extra time and penalties then a defeat would be absolutely tremendous. Link to comment
zander Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Non aberdonians you mean?You lot with your little village mentality are the club's biggest anchorsWhat's your affiliation with us then besides your pathetic grief mongering of Zero? 1 1 Link to comment
zander Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Why do you need our club then wannabe? Link to comment
Henry Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I see Millertime v1.9 has reverted back to v1.0 Link to comment
zander Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I see the potentialYou don't choose your football club, it chooses youAnother case of you clinging on to something in order to try be succesful. Let it go pal Link to comment
zander Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Oh Aye I live 15 mins from Celtic park and I support Aberdeen to be successful.. .Nothing to do with us being succesful when you were young? Link to comment
zander Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Was that when your love of North African cock started? Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 After WhatsApp discussions with pals that are Celtic fans it makes me need them to be knocked out If they weren't so smug and arrogant I'd want them to go through as a Scottish club That's as good a reason as any tbf. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Pity The fact the most inspirational recent aberdonian player was Russell Anderson speaks volumes A soft spoken, loser weirdo who got rag dolled by the likes of Giorgio fucking samaras Pathetic Aberdeen NEEDS GlasgowBloody good driver though. Link to comment
NEM Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Pity The fact the most inspirational recent aberdonian player was Russell Anderson speaks volumes A soft spoken, loser weirdo who got rag dolled by the likes of Giorgio fucking samaras Pathetic Aberdeen NEEDS Glasgow That'll be the same Aberdeen that's bankrolled your giros for 40 years? "Needs Glasgow" LOL Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 That doesn't make sense Willie Miller, Fergie, even McLeish 3 of the biggest icons in history of our club Which part of Aberdeen were they from again? Even Jim Bett, where was he from? Got to agree that Aberdeen's history is full of great players and managers from many places and walks of life. Glasgow being one of those, although not the only one that has contributed. Think of all the players from Holland, England, Ireland, Hungary and so on that have contributed. Great stuff, as Panda says we can't just be parochial about this. Link to comment
The Buzzard Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Extra time and penalties tonight... Don't care about the outcome...Correct. Then a blizzard to delay the flight home. Link to comment
Saturday's Kid Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 That doesn't make sense Willie Miller, Fergie, even McLeish 3 of the biggest icons in history of our club Which part of Aberdeen were they from again? Even Jim Bett, where was he from?Hamilton Link to comment
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