Aberdeen sack Derek McInnes

[RUL]

No, he contemplated it and turned them down

 

A move that weirdos on here proved that fans on a forum are clowns with them calling him a hun despite telling them no

 

Hilarious

I think he definitely wanted the job so it is a mystery that he didn't go.

[Yorston Vasey]

I think he definitely wanted the job so it is a mystery that he didn't go.

I thought the story was he was all set to go but the hun didn't have the money to pay the compensation, and they had suggested that he should immediately resign and essentially screw us over. McInnes didn't want to do that because he wanted to leave properly.

[Sonoftherock]

History will show that the Hun debacle with Mcinnes was the beginning of the end for him, he was gone and something that has yet to come out went on which stopped him getting the job as Milne and co had already given up on him by basically making Sheerin caretaker manager. If it hadn't been for his closeness to Milne he would have been gone, Hun appointment or not. I think it would have been best for all concerned if Mcinnes left then and we are going to suffer for a while yet as Milne won't fire him and he won't leave as his stock has plummeted since

 

Yeah, I don't think we're done with McInnes for a long stretch, mainly due to his relationship with Milne.  Milne loves him - he's the ultimate 'yes' man.  Milne isn't a football fan though, and he doesn't understand football - so he won't have seen any of this coming.  It would have to get seriously ugly for him to consider getting rid...

 

It will be interesting to see what Dave Cormack makes of everything going on.  Judging from  what we've heard so far, he is a football man and an Aberdeen fan.  We only hear bits and pieces from him, but I wonder what he makes of McInnes at the moment... and I wonder would he be prepared to clash with Milne, if this malaise on the pitch continues?

 

Choppy waters ahoy!

[BWG]

He's got to go but it is bleak when you start running through the available but hopeless cunts that Milne could appoint. Strachan, Stubbs, Archibald, Hartley... gads min.

[Henry]

Never even heard of Dave McCormack, best of luck to him.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

I 100% with the parts in bold, Milne shouldn't have let him take those games.

I vividly remember the collective “fit”

 

“And coming on for Aberdeen (after 60 minutes remember) Daniel Harvey.

 

“Fffffffffiiiitttt?

[Arabian Knight]

widna b ony surpris tae see thon shelly kerr throwin her scants inta the ring fir vacant joabs in the men's gemme noo, the cunts goat her feet richt under the table wi the SFA n sportscene canna git enuf eh the ugly auld bastart

[Sonoftherock]

He's got to go but it is bleak when you start running through the available but hopeless cunts that Milne could appoint. Strachan, Stubbs, Archibald, Hartley... gads min.

 

Often in these circumstances, you hear the old line trotted out, that you've 'got to go for experience'.... I think otherwise this time.  Since Miller got sacked, we've always gone for experience.  The end result has been a long line of incompetent retards.  McInnes is pretty much the first 'fit for purpose' individual we've appointed since Willie Miller! 

 

We actually have the makings of a really strong team.  We've got a decent first XI supplemented by at least 4 or 5 young players, between the ages of 17-23, who look like they could offer something at first team level.  We don't need someone to 'steady the ship' this time... we just need to keep moving forwards.

 

Instead of the usual line of suspects, why not put this out to interview (Craig Brown must NOT be allowed any involvement in the process) and target a young, enthusiastic coach, with some great ideas - who's not afraid to play exciting football.

[Zeus]

^Bring Ian Cathro home.

 

Joking aside completely agree with that

[King Street Loon]

I think he definitely wanted the job so it is a mystery that he didn't go.

All will be revealed in his autobiography.

[V for Vendetta]

Nothing wrong with a young coach - but still has to be the right one.

[King Street Loon]

Yeah, I don't think we're done with McInnes for a long stretch, mainly due to his relationship with Milne. Milne loves him - he's the ultimate 'yes' man. Milne isn't a football fan though, and he doesn't understand football - so he won't have seen any of this coming. It would have to get seriously ugly for him to consider getting rid...

 

It will be interesting to see what Dave Cormack makes of everything going on. Judging from what we've heard so far, he is a football man and an Aberdeen fan. We only hear bits and pieces from him, but I wonder what he makes of McInnes at the moment... and I wonder would he be prepared to clash with Milne, if this malaise on the pitch continues?

 

Choppy waters ahoy!

I'm in no way a man with connections, but i occasionally speak to people who are and whilst McInnes's stock remains relatively high with Milne, it's not as high with others in power and behind the scenes who wield influence.

[Sonoftherock]

I think he definitely wanted the job so it is a mystery that he didn't go.

 

Over the years we've heard quite often, from different sources, that McInnes is haunted by what happened at Bristol City.  While he's a Rangers man, I think we can see here that he values his career more than his allegiance to a particular club.  I think this is why he turned down two financial basket cases in Sunderland and Rangers.    That's my interpretation anyway...

[BWG]

Would love to see us go for an ambitious young manager but I don't think we would. There is too much perceived risk in appointing some up and coming guy like the boy at Bangor. Steve Clarke it is.

[RAZOR]

Would love to see us go for an ambitious young manager but I don't think we would. There is too much perceived risk in appointing some up and coming guy like the boy at Bangor. Steve Clarke it is.

Steve Watson is where it's at.

[BWG]

Danny Cowley is maybe another one.  Looks set for back to back promotions and had that great cup run. 

 

EDIT:  It's nae back to back.

[Shinniesta]

Over the years we've heard quite often, from different sources, that McInnes is haunted by what happened at Bristol City. While he's a Rangers man, I think we can see here that he values his career more than his allegiance to a particular club. I think this is why he turned down two financial basket cases in Sunderland and Rangers. That's my interpretation anyway...

Agree with this.

 

I sometimes think too much is made of McInnes speaking with the huns. He grew up supporting them and played for them in their glory years so of course the idea of managing them had to have some sort of appeal. If Rodgers left Celtic tomorrow and Lennon was asked if he he was interested in replacing him does anyone think he wouldn't at least be tempted to go back to the club he loves and supported despite managing Hibs? At the very least I'm sure he would want to talk to them.

 

Alex Ferguson admits he was sorely tempted to leave AFC in 1984 to become Rangers manager and he talked it through with his family. He talked with the huns hierarchy just like McInnes did. But their vision of where they wanted the club to go didn't match Fergie's. So like McInnes he eventually turned them down. McInnes knew by turning them down he was burning his bridges with them. Not saying he deserves any special accolades for doing so but I just think the whole thing needs to be kept in some sort of context.

[mcdougall(4)]

I thought the story was he was all set to go but the hun didn't have the money to pay the compensation, and they had suggested that he should immediately resign and essentially screw us over. McInnes didn't want to do that because he wanted to leave properly.

 

 

Yeah that was definitely what was bandied about at the time leading to the tremendous concomitant statement

[mcdougall(4)]

Yeah, I don't think we're done with McInnes for a long stretch, mainly due to his relationship with Milne.  Milne loves him - he's the ultimate 'yes' man.  Milne isn't a football fan though, and he doesn't understand football - so he won't have seen any of this coming.  It would have to get seriously ugly for him to consider getting rid...

 

It will be interesting to see what Dave Cormack makes of everything going on.  Judging from  what we've heard so far, he is a football man and an Aberdeen fan.  We only hear bits and pieces from him, but I wonder what he makes of McInnes at the moment... and I wonder would he be prepared to clash with Milne, if this malaise on the pitch continues?

 

Choppy waters ahoy!

 

 

With respect if he's not a football fan he's wasted an awful lot of his life attending games and chairing a football club

[Dr_Manhattan]

Were they? I was looking forward to someone with new ideas coming in, as were a large percentage of posters on here.

 

That may well be the case, but 50-odd regular posters on here is a small sample size out of a 10k-ish core support.

 

For my part, I was convinced he'd go but (at the time) pleasantly surprised that he stayed. I've had a gut-full of him now though, and I think it's time for a change.

[DD1903]

Would love to see us go for an ambitious young manager but I don't think we would. There is too much perceived risk in appointing some up and coming guy like the boy at Bangor. Steve Clarke it is.

Is the guy at Bangor the new name your going to mention all the time, now that potter is at Swansea?

[Yorston Vasey]

Lol aye whose story was that?

Erm... Derek's?

 

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/665858/New-Rangers-Manager-Derek-McInnes-snubbing-Rangers-wasnt-easy

 

McInnes gave a statement to the Aberdeen website explaining his decision.

 

And he went on to elaborate on his comments last night.

 

"It is more than one reason, but for me, I wasn't prepared to rip up a contract and tarnish relationships I've had and built at Aberdeen and continue to have," he continued.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Agree with this.

 

I sometimes think too much is made of McInnes speaking with the huns. He grew up supporting them and played for them in their glory years so of course the idea of managing them had to have some sort of appeal. If Rodgers left Celtic tomorrow and Lennon was asked if he he was interested in replacing him does anyone think he wouldn't at least be tempted to go back to the club he loves and supported despite managing Hibs? At the very least I'm sure he would want to talk to them.

 

Alex Ferguson admits he was sorely tempted to leave AFC in 1984 to become Rangers manager and he talked it through with his family. He talked with the huns hierarchy just like McInnes did. But their vision of where they wanted the club to go didn't match Fergie's. So like McInnes he eventually turned them down. McInnes knew by turning them down he was burning his bridges with them. Not saying he deserves any special accolades for doing so but I just think the whole thing needs to be kept in some sort of context.

Im not disagreeing with any of it. But there’s one very relevant point people conveniently forget. Every Aberdeen fan knew he wasn’t good enough for the Huns lofty ambitions hence, if he wanted to go, we’d have taken the money in a heartbeat!

[Old manny]

Agree with this.

 

I sometimes think too much is made of McInnes speaking with the huns. He grew up supporting them and played for them in their glory years so of course the idea of managing them had to have some sort of appeal. If Rodgers left Celtic tomorrow and Lennon was asked if he he was interested in replacing him does anyone think he wouldn't at least be tempted to go back to the club he loves and supported despite managing Hibs? At the very least I'm sure he would want to talk to them.

 

Alex Ferguson admits he was sorely tempted to leave AFC in 1984 to become Rangers manager and he talked it through with his family. He talked with the huns hierarchy just like McInnes did. But their vision of where they wanted the club to go didn't match Fergie's. So like McInnes he eventually turned them down. McInnes knew by turning them down he was burning his bridges with them. Not saying he deserves any special accolades for doing so but I just think the whole thing needs to be kept in some sort of context.

I remember that like it was yesterday. The day he went down for the interview there was hardly a Don's fan who did not think it was a done deal and that Fergie was almost certainly going to take the job. He was a Govan man who had played for the Huns and the financial incentives along with a large transfer chest surely meant he was going to be the new animals manager. The rest is history, but no specific reason was given as to why he turned them down. The general view among the fans was that it was their policy of not signing Roman Catholics, which meant not having the option of recruiting top players from an RC background limited his options, and this is why he gave them the two fingered salute. In my opinion Ferguson, by turning them down, changed history and when Souness later became manager he demanded complete control over transfers and signed Mo Johnston, which was a really big deal at the time. Great men do have the power to change things for the better and Fergie's moral stance led to a profound rethink of how business had been conducted in the Scottish game for generations,

[Shinniesta]

I remember that like it was yesterday. The day he went down for the interview there was hardly a Don's fan who did not think it was a done deal and that Fergie was almost certainly going to take the job. He was a Govan man who had played for the Huns and the financial incentives along with a large transfer chest surely meant he was going to be the new animals manager. The rest is history, but no specific reason was given as to why he turned them down. The general view among the fans was that it was their policy of not signing Roman Catholics, which meant not having the option of recruiting top players from an RC background limited his options, and this is why he gave them the two fingered salute. In my opinion Ferguson, by turning them down, changed history and when Souness later became manager he demanded complete control over transfers and signed Mo Johnston, which was a really big deal at the time. Great men do have the power to change things for the better and Fergie's moral stance led to a profound rethink of how business had been conducted in the Scottish game for generations,

Good post. Fergie more than most would have taken offence at Rangers not changing their stance on catholics at that point in time seeing as he was married to one and still harboured a grudge over the way she was treated by the club when he was a player at Ibrox.

[Dr_Manhattan]

Good post. Fergie more than most would have taken offence at Rangers not changing their stance on catholics at that point in time seeing as he was married to one and still harboured a grudge over the way she was treated by the club when he was a player at Ibrox.

 

This and the fact he was made a scapegoat for the '69 SCF defeat to Celtic, which ultimately led to his decision to leave the club.

[Chewie37]

You've got to want to listen to and trust the word of your assistant. McInnes has trust issues. Thars exibited in his teams selections.

He trusts Doc, but ultimately the decision is McInnes.

 

Very true, I think he also stubbornly shows loyalty to players rather than sometimes showing a needed ruthlessness, which would explain some of the apathetic performances we get subjected to?

 

 

I 100% with the parts in bold, Milne shouldn't have let him take those games.

 

At the time, didn't Sheerin have to take training and field media questions the week leading up to the matches? Never ever going to great motivation for your players

 

He's got to go but it is bleak when you start running through the available but hopeless cunts that Milne could appoint. Strachan, Stubbs, Archibald, Hartley... gads min.

You'd think/hope that Milne has learnt his lesson(s) and would be looking to lean more on the board members who seem to be far more clued up than previous incumbents. Could tie in with what KSL is saying about some of the board not being too impressed with DM at the moment too...isn't it nice that we might have a competent group of directors?

 

A new manager should tick the right boxes if we get one in, modern thinking, professional, ruthless, ambitious and preferably not a Hun

[BWG]

Is the guy at Bangor the new name your going to mention all the time, now that potter is at Swansea?

Nah I don't actually know enough about the boy, just an example of an up and coming manager. I don't have anyone to tout this time. Who do you want m9?

[HairyPie]

Never mind

 

Away days in July next year at Elgin and Cove in the League Cup

 

Sounds fucking tremendous - much better than the status quo - sign me up.

 

Coward?

 

You hid from here for months you stinking pikey clown

 

Great post MT - nothing against your target, but I like this aggression.  There's hope for us yet.

 

BOOM.

 

Reaching cup semis isn't success. Finishing second isn't success. Wee boys don't pin posters of the club secretary being handed prize money cheques on their walls.

 

Win some fucking trophies. That's success.

 

100% spot-on.

 

Full list of signings:

 

Good: (bold to me have been excellent signings)

Logan

Rooney

Robson

Flood

Hector

McLean

Ward

Shinnie

Lewis 

Maddison

Christie

Devlin

GMS

Ferguson

 

OK:

Weaver

Goodwllie

Brown

Taylor

Quinn

Church

O'Connor

Arnason

Stewart

Woodman

Ball

 

Poor:

Tate

Zola

Shankland

Wylde

Monkana

Daniels

Collin

McLaughlin

Parker

Stockley

Morris

Burns

Storey

May

Nwakali

Tansey

Maynard

Cosgrove

 

Too early to categorise Gleeson, Forrester, Hoban, Wilson, Lowe.

 

The majority of the good signings happened in the first season, after that, no more than 1 or 2 players per transfer window have been worthwhile, a lot of dross signed. 14 out of 43 signed, IMO have been good signings...

 

Fact is he's only signed 1 good striker in 6 seasons...unless Wilson bangs in 20 goals this season,

 

I have never heard of the players in bold.

[Geoff_Tipps]

I'd like to see Barry Robson and Paul Sheerin double team.

 

No doubting McInnes is going backwards at a rate of knots, however, there is no way he will be sacked or resign. We are stuck with him unfortunately.