Coronavirus (Football Thread)

[alscotoz]

1 hour ago, Lencarl said:

That's the thing.

Covid-19 is being treated different in every country.

Why ?

All countries should take the same approach then maybe it would make more sense.

Experts are now saying that the second wave is spreading faster than the first one.

 

I think that was the case here in Victoria...but tbh, I haven't really paid much attention to any of it for a long time.

[afc1903mad]

1 hour ago, Lencarl said:

 

Experts are now saying that the second wave is spreading faster than the first one.

 

That’s evident from the data, people are just not as cautious as when it first hit us.

all these street parties, rallies, protests etc (around the world), political decisions means it’s probably now impossible to be on top of it and we simply need to be sensible until a vaccine is distributed to mitigate as far as we can

 

 

[Zeus]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8870309/West-Ham-fans-watch-clash-against-Man-City-weekend-cinema-half-mile-away.html

Can go to the cinema to watch the fitba but canna go to a stadium ?

[Tord31]

@aberdeen1970 I always assumed the lower leagues would not start until the nod had been given for 300 or 500 crowds.

[aberdeen1970]

1 minute ago, Tord31 said:

@aberdeen1970 I always assumed the lower leagues would not start until the nod had been given for 300 or 500 crowds.

Yeah but I think it's the wrong decision.  

Outdoor places like Landmark, Blairdrummond etc are all open with hundreds of people in attendance.  Why can't we let some kids and old mannies watch a game of outdoor lower league football? 

 

[1903Fitba]

Lower leagues in England have been having crowds as far as I know. Few of the local clubs making some good coin from it. 
 

Good to see 

[Yorston Vasey]

3 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Letting fans into the games in the bottom two divisions in Scotland would be a good start, perfect test case environment and a shot in the arm for these clubs with small followings of a couple of hundred people. 

Arranging 200 people around a football pitch is a fucking doddle. And doesn't cause any additional 'pressure' on public transport, pubs or any other pish they want to use as an excuse. 

The time to do this would have been August/September time when the weather was more likely to be marginally less pish than usual. Now they're potentially going to do trials in the grip of winter, you're right that arranging 200 folk around a giant park would be no bother but the issue now will be doing that on a freezing day when it's pissing down in venues with minimal cover. Think Cove Rangers where the fans will be wanting to pile into the very limited enclosure areas to escape the elements which would negate the benefits of distancing round all four sides of the pitch. 

That'll be the reason given for not allowing fans into the matches until... next summer? When there's no fucking football scheduled anyway.

[aberdeen1970]

6 minutes ago, Yorston Vasey said:

The time to do this would have been August/September time when the weather was more likely to be marginally less pish than usual. Now they're potentially going to do trials in the grip of winter, you're right that arranging 200 folk around a giant park would be no bother but the issue now will be doing that on a freezing day when it's pissing down in venues with minimal cover. Think Cove Rangers where the fans will be wanting to pile into the very limited enclosure areas to escape the elements which would negate the benefits of distancing round all four sides of the pitch. 

That'll be the reason given for not allowing fans into the matches until... next summer? When there's no fucking football scheduled anyway.

No difference from letting a few hundred people into Landmark or Blairdrummond Safari Park in the pishing rain. 

I've done both with my kids this week. 

I'd say organising a few hundred at a football stadium is easier. 

[pocrawred]

4 hours ago, Lencarl said:

 

Experts are now saying that the second wave is spreading faster than the first one.

 

The 3rd wave is in February.....

[Ten Caat]

Kilmarnock charged by the SPFL that they broke Covid regulations in the lead up to their postponed match with Motherwell.

 

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Penalty?  Suspect they’re desperate to avoid the 0-3 reverse as that could cause chaos.

[Tord31]

11 minutes ago, strachanmcgheegoal said:

Penalty?  Suspect they’re desperate to avoid the 0-3 reverse as that could cause chaos.

3-0 defeats is an absolute can of worms. they'll be desperate to avoid the title, and lesser extent relegation, being decided because of a 3-0 forfeit.

Surprised the very harsh precedent has been set for the league cup. No postponements (or deferments to complete the track and trace process) allowed and if you cant play at the scheduled time youve lost the game. No one cares in the group stages but there will be some uproar if hearts, hibs, aberdeen, celtic or rangers win or lose their 2nd round match on that basis.

[Yorston Vasey]

28 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

3-0 defeats is an absolute can of worms. they'll be desperate to avoid the title, and lesser extent relegation, being decided because of a 3-0 forfeit.

Surprised the very harsh precedent has been set for the league cup. No postponements (or deferments to complete the track and trace process) allowed and if you cant play at the scheduled time youve lost the game. No one cares in the group stages but there will be some uproar if hearts, hibs, aberdeen, celtic or rangers win or lose their 2nd round match on that basis.

Is that not standard for cup competitions though, if a team can't go ahead with a tie then they lose by default. With a League season you've got nine months to fit another game in, the cup ties really should go ahead before the following round where possible. Obviously weather postponements, replays etc mean that doesn't always happen but I'm sure there have always been regulations in cups to avoid that particularly where you have pro sides up against semi-pro and potentially amateur. Imagine the logistical nightmares if the Dog & Duck FC were drawn against Manchester United in the FA Cup and the pub side kept putting the game off because their players were all too pished to play, it wouldn't be feasible.

[starryfish]

Stadia can open to restricted numbers of spectators in Level 1 and Level 0 of the 5-tier lockdown system in Scotland. The framework says that Levels 0 and 1 will be "similar to the measures in place during the summer". So if prevalence/R number is at June/July/August levels, then fans will get in to games.

[ericblack4boss]

St mirren having another issue with covid, something wrong with thier protocol 

[maryhilldon]

9 hours ago, Zeus said:

I think the governments think us football fans are all bloody louts 

Scottish parliament is full of gays,  lesbians,  feminists and geeks,  they can't stand the working man and his pastimes. 

[NEM]

13 hours ago, Lencarl said:

That's the thing.

Covid-19 is being treated different in every country.

Why ?

All countries should take the same approach then maybe it would make more sense.

Experts are now saying that the second wave is spreading faster than the first one.

 

Which experts? The ONS claimed the other day there was no second wave, excess deaths only 1.5% above the 5 year average for the time of year 

[aberdeen1970]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bbc.com/sport/amp/football/54666403&ved=2ahUKEwi2h7Ph4szsAhWSbsAKHcgNDDEQFjAAegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw2f7ZZjvhgv1WzEvPxDIYi0&ampcf=1

 

[afc1903mad]

1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bbc.com/sport/amp/football/54666403&ved=2ahUKEwi2h7Ph4szsAhWSbsAKHcgNDDEQFjAAegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw2f7ZZjvhgv1WzEvPxDIYi0&ampcf=1

 

It’s ludicrous that you can’t watch in a stadium, outdoors, but you can indoors in a cinema.

No rhyme or reason for this decision

[Dynamo]

3 minutes ago, afc1903mad said:

It’s ludicrous that you can’t watch in a stadium, outdoors, but you can indoors in a cinema.

No rhyme or reason for this decision

Yeah, it's almost as if they're just making it up as they go along.

[aberdeen1970]

15 minutes ago, afc1903mad said:

It’s ludicrous that you can’t watch in a stadium, outdoors, but you can indoors in a cinema.

No rhyme or reason for this decision

200 people in the conference centre at the ground indoors but not allowed to have a direct view of the pitch. 

Fucking bonkers 

 

[Tord31]

Sounds like we'll be getting a small crowd in for the Hibs game.

Presumably a new ballot with presumably the previous 300 not included.

[Parklife]

Where you seeing that, Tord?

[Sheepo]

22 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

Sounds like we'll be getting a small crowd in for the Hibs game.

Presumably a new ballot with presumably the previous 300 not included.

Ross County have asked for 750 at there match that weekend, they are more likely to succeed as Dingwall will be in tier 1

[Tord31]

Sounds like they are maybe hoping to have actual clarification as to how many fans will be in tier 0, 1, 2, 3 and 4.

[pocrawred]

24 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

Sounds like we'll be getting a small crowd in for the Hibs game.

Presumably a new ballot with presumably the previous 300 not included.

It should be at least 1000 fans getting in after the cinemas doon sooth accepting folk in to watch a game in an enclosed area!! Fkn right rid up....

[Tord31]

I'd say it should be something like this. The numbers can be argued but it should be structured so they cant keep moving the goal posts.

Tier 0 : 40% of capacity capped at 4000

Tier 1 : 20% of capacity capped at 2000

Tier 2 : 300

Tier 3 : 0

Tier 4 : Minimise the number of hangers on to X

[Tord31]

If we make a comparison to weddings which are between 0 and 50 from now on dependent on which tier then it's a real reality check for football fans.

We are looking at August at the earliest as the next game with all season ticket holders in.

I'm not even confident when non season ticket holders will get a chance again. It's safe to say a non season ticket holder will certainly not be at any away game in 2020 or 2021. 

[Yorston Vasey]

6 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

If we make a comparison to weddings which are between 0 and 50 from now on dependent on which tier then it's a real reality check for football fans.

We are looking at August at the earliest as the next game with all season ticket holders in.

I'm not even confident when non season ticket holders will get a chance again. It's safe to say a non season ticket holder will certainly not be at any away game in 2020 or 2021. 

It's a load of fucking shite is what it is.

[DD1903]

On 10/23/2020 at 8:25 AM, Lencarl said:

That's the thing.

Covid-19 is being treated different in every country.

Why ?

All countries should take the same approach then maybe it would make more sense.

Experts are now saying that the second wave is spreading faster than the first one.

 

Which government's approach would you like to see the world agree on and adopt?