The Mckenna Dilemma

[pocrawred]

The suns got the hots for it!!

 

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3006888/scott-mckenna-aberdeen-swansea-transfer-news-scotland/

[fine-n-dandy]

I totally agree. The club should absolutely be the ones to decide to whom and for how much they sell players, if at all. I also would be pleased and very impressed if the board turned down an offer of say £6 million for any player. Can you even imagine saying that 4 or 5 years ago?! I hope Mckenna is here all season.

All I'm trying to put across is that there are far too many fans that just don't quite grasp how the real world of Scottish player transfers work. They seem to look at England, pick a number from there and hey presto....

Man City just signed today a young and highly rated defender from a Dutch prem club, Philippe Sandler. The lad is 21 and an international cap at that level. Man City paid £2.5 million for him.

How many years did he have left on his contract?

Maybe they knew of & as a result HIT the release clause figure in his contract.

 

Unreliable source doesn't know the facts, yet is still desperately trying to devalue our own players ( he isn't the only one either) so many Arsehole's in our support it's crazy

[super_al]

Sun and Daily Mail running with, Swansea make official contact.

 

Bet you he is loan back to us for the rest of the season if he is indeed sold.

[Yorston Vasey]

Shinnie kicks him in training, out for 2-3 months. Speculation over until January, job done.

[Ernie McCracken]

"Chairman Stewart Milne is adamant that when Scott McKenna eventually moves on from Aberdeen it will be for a fee that dwarfs the record sale at Pittodrie."

 

To be fair, that's not gonna be difficult given our previous inability to develop and sell players.

[V for Vendetta]

I think Swansea would want him quite cheaply so we should just rebuff them and wait and see who else takes an interest in the lad in years time.

 

Can't ever see him going straight to one of the top EPL sides but hopefully we sell to at least a lower ranking EPL team who are happy splashing a bit of cash.

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

I think Swansea would want him quite cheaply so we should just rebuff them and wait and see who else takes an interest in the lad in years time.

 

Can't ever see him going straight to one of the top EPL sides but hopefully we sell to at least a lower ranking EPL team who are happy splashing a bit of cash.

 

The dream would be to sell to Southampton with a decent sell on percentage.... would only be a matter of time before Liverpool spend over the odds on him

[robbojunior]

He has looked good against spfl players

 

Up against Sam Vokes who is far from the elite in England he couldn't handle him and it led to us conceding an away goal

 

Thsts why the 2 markets aren't the same, put simply

Hahahahahahahaha

 

Because an EPL got the better of him in one game to score helped by a lucky deflection off one of our other players he cant handle players of Vokes level?

 

Loveren regularly gets his arse handed to him by players like Vokes and he played in the World Cup final.

 

Your simplistic view of the world is amazing

[Yorston Vasey]

"Chairman Stewart Milne is adamant that when Aberdeen have their new stadium and training complex it will mean players like Scott McKenna will never want to leave, even for a fee that dwarfs the record sale at Pittodrie."

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

Hahahahahahahaha

 

Because an EPL got the better of him in one game to score helped by a lucky deflection off one of our other players he cant handle players of Vokes level?

 

Loveren regularly gets his arse handed to him by players like Vokes and he played in the World Cup final.

 

Your simplistic view of the world is amazing

 

McKenna was immense last Thursday. One lapse of concentration cost us but he's a young lad and needs to make these mistakes to improve.

 

@@Millertime did you watch the game?

[Henry]

Someone called me last night, singing Stand and Deliver down the phone.

 

I kept telling him he had the wrong number, but he was adamant.

[The Hulk]

Am I missing something?

 

Why would aberdeen choose to adhere to some valuation formula based on wages and other factors etc when there is no obligation for us to do so?

 

You are correct. Aberdeen have no obligation to sell at a price they're not comfortable with, no question. And from a testosterone-fuelled "we are Aberdeen and nobody fucks with us point of view", yes we can play hardball, there is no pressure to sell (unless the player has intimated he wants the offer to be considered, which let's be honest here, is very likely). But nobody is doubting this. AFC will be saying to him, listen Scott we'll let you speak to them when they get real with the transfer value; we think you're worth this amount and you don't want to go down there on this salary when other lesser players than you are getting this salary.

 

What we're saying is that Scott McKenna (and any footballer) has an intrinsic value and the way clubs arrive at these figures is pretty simple when you're involved in the thick of it; it's not computer game stuff. If Swansea have an offer accepted for £10m, McKenna's agent will negotiate the salary of a £10m player or else the deal will fall through. Swansea will realise this and they will have all of this factored in to the package they offer; transfer fee, clauses, signing-on fee, salary, bonuses etc.

 

Clearly if they think they'll be able to happily pay McKenna a salary of £10k per week (I've only plucked that out of the air to make this point), they're highly unlikely to spend £10m on him, probably more like £2m-£3m at that salary bracket, put another way his value to them in their arena, or what they think he is worth to them. If they think he is better and worth more, they will need to pay him more, quite simple, and reciprocally the transfer value will be more. Effectively, if Swansea are willing to pay £10m then they also need to be willing to pay him about £40k per week. It's very straightforward.

 

 

 

Where did he mention salaries?

In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary, come again?

[Foster14]

 

Clearly if they think they'll be able to happily pay McKenna a salary of £10k per week (I've only plucked that out of the air to make this point), they're highly unlikely to spend £10m on him, probably more like £2m-£3m at that salary bracket, put another way his value to them in their arena, or what they think he is worth to them. If they think he is better and worth more, they will need to pay him more, quite simple, and reciprocally the transfer value will be more. Effectively, if Swansea are willing to pay £10m then they also need to be willing to pay him about £40k per week. It's very straightforward.

 

So Alfie Mawson is on £60-80k a week?!

[The Hulk]

 

So Alfie Mawson is on £60-80k a week?!

 

That's up to him, his agent, and the buying club to negotiate, depending on signing-on fees, length of contract, contract clauses etc. Publicised transfer fees also are often inflated to include signing-on fees and agents fees if there is a reason or an agreement between the parties to do so. For example, Mawson might have got a £1m signing on fee and his agent might have got a £1m fee resulting in a reduced overall transfer compensation fee to Swansea of £12m or something, thus is might have been in Fulham's financial interest to wrap up part of Mawson's overall contract package as an up-front capital payment and reduce their running costs on his salary. All sorts of ways these things are packaged, for a variety of accountancy reasons. Another example could also be that an up front compensation payment of £14m would actually be £15m if paid in instalments. These are a couple of reasons also why alot of transfer fees are now "undisclosed".

[DD1903]

Wow!! I always thought it was Stuart Goddard !!

Well, stuarty is a dandy (highwayman)

[fine-n-dandy]

Can we keep all this McKenna speculation to the transfer rumors thread. As that is all it is.

[fine-n-dandy]

Fuck that FnD - the big hero deserves his own thread for chat of any type.

We should keep his thread to FACTS & game performance chat.

 

Not enough rumours going around. We need more fuel in that thread to keep it smoldering away until the striker gets announced

[fine-n-dandy]

30 mins

[Zander1903]

Has his Granny posted a statement yet?

[Dons79]

Aw right there it is a fact that Swansea have approached us about Mckenna will that do

[fine-n-dandy]

Aw right there it is a fact that Swansea have approached us about Mckenna will that do

Fact or newspaper talk?

[Dons79]

Fact seen as there scout was here last Thursday

[fine-n-dandy]

Fact seen as there scout was here last Thursday

That doesn't make them approaching the club about McKenna fact.

That is still just speculation

[Dons79]

Jesus fuck nae probs then bud? Wait till 2morro from mcinnes then

[Dons79]

Argumentative prick

[fine-n-dandy]

Argumentative prick

[Dons79]

On the other thread and I know is off topic but who is it weve signed

[fine-n-dandy]

Half an hr or so.

 

We've waited long enough, another wee hr won't kill us

[Dons79]

Ma bed sheets are wringing

[fifered]

Mckenna is going nowhere near the championship. Just read mcinnes comments today. It's pretty clear and has been since when he signed his contract that there is a plan to get him a number of first team games under his belt and for him to be an established international then he'll head off. They pretty much said as much when he signed his contract. Why would some no mark team like Swansea change that plan?