Redmist1903 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Details look sketchy at best at the minute. The Algerian Press Service saying 4 foreiners freed (two brits, one of which was an irishman who has phoned his familly and been named).Britain seems to know nothing of what has happened and never sanctioned any of it. Another report saying loads of foreign hostages killed. What a flippin' mess. Link to comment
muttondressedaslamb Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 2 Scots freed I heard who were among the 4 Brits freed - a northern Irish and Irish. Fucking awful situation. Link to comment
muttondressedaslamb Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 OK ignore. Just said two Brits, a French and Kenyan have escaped. Link to comment
E-P-K Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Al Jazeera reporting 34 hostages killed, plus 15 kidnappers. Link to comment
RUL Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Wonder how they decided which 4 to release? Link to comment
daytripping Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Al Jazeera reporting 34 hostages killed, plus 15 kidnappers. Jesus, didn't know it was that bad, that's really grim news. Link to comment
muttondressedaslamb Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I haven't really been following this but one thing I would like to know is why? Is this politically motivated and if so, what's the cause? Is it an old-fashioned piracy situation, taking folk for the purpose of ransoms? Because of Mali, so the terrorists say, but do they need an excuse?Algerian politics has been unstable for years. Kids going to school and getting their throats cut because they don't have a headscarf on. Link to comment
Ohjimmyjimmy Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 News are reporting elements of Al Qaeda, disgruntled with the French military intervention in Mali. Link to comment
muttondressedaslamb Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Wonder how they decided which 4 to release? There's word that they maybe escaped rather than be released. Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 News are reporting elements of Al Qaeda, disgruntled with the French military intervention in Mali. This is clearly shite though given the time frame involved and planning required Link to comment
Ke1t Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 This is clearly shite though given the time frame involved and planning required Given the bloodbath that has transpired, it seems they might have wanted to spend a little more time in the planning and little less in the.... execution Link to comment
Redmist1903 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 Wonder how they decided which 4 to release? Probably the four who were still alive by the sounds of it. Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I haven't really been following this but one thing I would like to know is why? Is this politically motivated and if so, what's the cause? Is it an old-fashioned piracy situation, taking folk for the purpose of ransoms? Right now its all guess work. The guy they think is behind it has a history of kidnap and ransom but one of his wives is from Mali. They may or may not have also asked for the release of around 100 'political prisoners' from Algerian jails. The list of reported demands changes each time its reported. Its also been suggested that the Algerians have other info which meant they felt they had to just shoot the shit out of the place. Unconfirmed reports from this morning are that the hostages were being moved, seen out in the open with the kidnappers so the Algerian army just shot the lot from a helicopter. It'll be weeks or maybe years before we get the full story, if we ever get it at all. Link to comment
muttondressedaslamb Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Cameron saying prepare for bad news Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Wonder how they decided which 4 to release? If what was posted earlier is correct and our board member did get out it may have been a simple case of the contractors were released and the company men were kept. Also the NI guy had an Irish passport, most probably didnt see the Irish as part of the western forces. Same may be true if it was Scots they also released. That whole al-Megrahi thing may have done us a few favours in the middle east. Link to comment
Redmist1903 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 If what was posted earlier is correct and our board member did get out it may have been a simple case of the contractors were released and the company men were kept. Do we really want to get this thread pulled as well by taking about board members? Be wise not to mention this just now. Link to comment
Redmist1903 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 If what was posted earlier is correct and our board member did get out it may have been a simple case of the contractors were released and the company men were kept. Also the NI guy had an Irish passport, most probably didnt see the Irish as part of the western forces. Same may be true if it was Scots they also released. That whole al-Megrahi thing may have done us a few favours in the middle east. Pure unfounded speculation min. I'd wager that if there has been 34 hostages killed some of them will be contractors and foreigners. Why have they not named the Scot that was released? They were quick enough to name the paddy. Link to comment
Ke1t Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Yeah, but he won't have a Scottish passport... it'll be British or EU. Link to comment
muttondressedaslamb Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The Algerians fucked up and didn't ask for help. Perhaps. Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Yeah, but he won't have a Scottish passport... it'll be British or EU. When they used to collect the passports during the old days of planes being hijacked and held on runways they would ask. The killing order was, US, English then Scottish. I very much doubt they had their passports with them onsite Kelt, the installation and the camp are two separate places. Link to comment
Redmist1903 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 The Algerians fucked up and didn't ask for help. Perhaps. Looking increasingly like that. If Britain and the like had been involved they would still be in negotiations with the captors. Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Pure unfounded speculation min. I'd wager that if there has been 34 hostages killed some of them will be contractors and foreigners. Why have they not named the Scot that was released? They were quick enough to name the paddy. As using the words may and probably would suggest. BP dont have many contractors out there, its to do with the whole visa situation. I know, I have guys going in and out of there all the time with my work. One of my projects is ISG. Luckily we didnt have anyone on site when this happened. Link to comment
Redmist1903 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 When they used to collect the passports during the old days of planes being hijacked and held on runways they would ask. The killing order was, US, English then Scottish. I very much doubt they had their passports with them onsite Kelt, the installation and the camp are two separate places. I can just imagine all the yanks giving it their best Scottish impression at gun point. 'hey big man, I'm from Edin-boro, Scotchland'. Maybe they carry a see u jimmy hat with them at all times just incase. Link to comment
daytripping Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The Algerians fucked up and didn't ask for help. Perhaps. Would be surprised if British special forces were not there as well. Hope the news of our resident escaping is true. 1 Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Would be surprised if British special forces were not there as well. Hope the news of our resident escaping is true. Strike Back style. Link to comment
Ke1t Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Do we even know if he was at that facility? Link to comment
muttondressedaslamb Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Confirmation that it's all over with multiple fatalities. From Algerian government on Al Jazeera Link to comment
daytripping Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Strike Back style. I'd have thought they'd have been sent straight away given the number of Brits and type of installation that was attacked, I've read every SAS book out there, they have a squadron on permanent stand by for this type of stuff. Link to comment
rgudon Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Haha you think "al qaeda" can determine fas a contractor and fa is BP!? Come on min! 1 Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 if the sas aren't somewhere else just now, this is right up their alley. scary stuff Link to comment
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