North Korea

[E-P-K]

Will it have a positive impact on the oil price ?

[looksgoodinred]

Will it have a positive impact on the oil price ?

 

probably not.

[E-P-K]

Other than feeding his uncle to the dogs, young Kim needs to up his game, his father Kim was far more consistent with the sabre rattling and threats of war with all.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

The UN should organise a multinational force to roll in and depose Jing Jang John or whatever his name is. Then unify the country under Seoul.

 

The Norts no longer have their special protectors / suppliers (the sovs and the dinks) to shield them / help them. The sovs are history and the dinks today prefer trading goods and services with we round-eyes, as opposed to bullets and shells.

 

A disgrace we regularly attack tin-pot arab nations, who are ultimately harmless, and yet let this boil fester.

 

I propose Russia and the Japs to be the leading nations in this mission, given their predecessors are largely to blame for the "two Koreas" in the first place. Lots of oportunities to look macho

 

The Norts have a big army but its all WW2 / early cold war stuff. Shite, in other words. Just drop leaflets ahead of UN troops with words and pictures about the lifestyle and income of South Koreans, and watch the resistance crumble.

 

As human beings we have a duty to rescue the North Koreans from their own regime.

[ChutneyLove]

A similar exercise in the central belt of Scotland wouldn't go amiss.

[BrianFaePerth]

Go on the Young General, teach those Yankee imperialist dogs and their South Korean puppets a lesson.

[Ke1t]

The UN should organise a multinational force to roll in and depose Jing Jang John or whatever his name is. Then unify the country under Seoul.

 

The Norts no longer have their special protectors / suppliers (the sovs and the dinks) to shield them / help them. The sovs are history and the dinks today prefer trading goods and services with we round-eyes, as opposed to bullets and shells.

 

A disgrace we regularly attack tin-pot arab nations, who are ultimately harmless, and yet let this boil fester.

 

I propose Russia and the Japs to be the leading nations in this mission, given their predecessors are largely to blame for the "two Koreas" in the first place. Lots of oportunities to look macho

 

The Norts have a big army but its all WW2 / early cold war stuff. Shite, in other words. Just drop leaflets ahead of UN troops with words and pictures about the lifestyle and income of South Koreans, and watch the resistance crumble.

 

As human beings we have a duty to rescue the North Koreans from their own regime.

 

You won't see the Yanks or the South Koreans initiating a war with the North, and re-uniting the two Koreas won't happen.

 

The Russians and Japs don't have the ability to project enough (any) power to take on the N Koreans, but the Yanks do... so it would have to be led by the Americans, and you won't see the Yanks or South Koreans initiating a war with the North.

 

We may have a duty to 'rescue' our fellow human beings, but Iraq shows how inept we are at that... assuming that were the reason for invading Iraq, which of course it wasn't.

[Redforever86]

Why the fuck would you send in the Japs? Both sides of Korea hate them with a passion.

[dave_min]

Why the fuck would you send in the Japs? Both sides of Korea hate them with a passion.

Means we can kill some Japs though.

[RUL]

Well it would give them something to unite against then.

[granite sheep]

 

Hud at, Kim Jong Un, ye fat cunt.

[looksgoodinred]

Pyongyang expressed regret over the serious injuries suffered by two South Korean soldiers in landmine blasts in the DMZ, and Seoul agreed to switch off the loudspeakers pumping propaganda broadcasts over the border Tuesday, both sides said.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/24/asia/koreas-tensions/

[Clydeside_Sheep]

A similar exercise in the central belt of Scotland wouldn't go amiss.

 

Thats crazy talk, the central belt of Scotland could never be effectively governed from Seoul.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

 

The Russians and Japs don't have the ability to project enough (any) power to take on the N Koreans, but the Yanks do... so it would have to be led by the Americans, and you won't see the Yanks or South Koreans initiating a war with the North.

 

 

I think the Russians could take the North Koreans. Japs no - mainly suggested their involvement to soak up casualties which would otherwise have affected the Russians! :-P

 

Also agree neither the US or South Koreans will initiate war - but then there are other ways to fight than actual violence. If knowledge of living standards in the South became common knowledge in the North, they would be upheavals alright.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

Why the fuck would you send in the Japs? Both sides of Korea hate them with a passion.

 

Along with the Russians, Its their mess, so they clean it up.

 

You are right all Koreans hate them - this hatred could become the unifiying principle of a new Korea for the 21st century

 

The southerners are all too busy playing starcraft 24/7 anyway and so would probably be distracted as to which militaries were arriving in their nation.

[360]

 

Along with the Russians, Its their mess, so they clean it up.

 

 

 

Isn't it more the Chinese than the Japanese who are to blame?

[Clydeside_Sheep]

This perennial stand off - in a state of war - is typical of asians.

 

Both are frighten to start anything incase they get beat and then "lose face" which is total death in asian cultures. They dont care about getting beat, its the "loss of face" which terrifies them. Idiots.

 

We used to have troublesome southern neighbours, but after a long series of fights we eventually agreed to be friends. The Koreans should follow our good example!

[Clydeside_Sheep]

 

Isn't it more the Chinese than the Japanese who are to blame?

 

The japs occupied Korea before + during WW2; then, when they got beat (and so withdrew from their conquests) the allies took over occupation to prevent a power vacuum.

 

This was only supposed to be brief, till the country got back on its feet, but by this time the allies were already dividing into opposing camps of east (Soviet Union) and west (the rest).

 

What happened was that the Soviets took over the North of Korea, and the Western Allies the South - and so ironically the country became divided permanently along North-South lines, just like Germany used to be divided along East-West lines for the same reason.

 

While the Americans etc in the south were busy trying to get the place back up and running, the Soviets wasted no time in indoctrinating the Northerners as committed Communists, essentially to creating a new satellite nation for themselves (like they did with eastern europe, when they kicked the nazis out).

 

The Communists then decided they want the whole place as a satellite nation, (with Soviets and their then lapdog China backing the North), hence the Korean war in the 50s, which achieved nothing for anyone and is technically still on the go - a peace deal was never signed, both sets of Koreans likely fearing a "loss of face" to sign such a deal.

 

So thats how we got to today - Russia, as successor to the Soviet Union, bears responsibility and the Japs bear responsiblity too for invading the place in the first place.

 

Its true China has often backed the North in the past - when they were all asian communists together, under the yoke of the COMINTERN - but I think they see it today as an embarrassment, a threat even, as now they are good capitalists and want to make money and fear whatever eedjit is running North Korea may ruin it for them by destabilising the region .

[Ke1t]

The problem with China isn't whether or not they support North Korea, it's the fact that they won't allow American forces to be stationed on their border.

 

You try an invasion of North Korea and at some point you're going to have to take Pyongyang. Pyonyang is a 2hr 34min drive (without traffic) to the Chinese border according to Google Maps.

 

Chinese simply won't allow it. Not ever.

 

The North Koreans might be dicks, but they're China's dicks.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

The problem with China isn't whether or not they support North Korea, it's the fact that they won't allow American forces to be stationed on their border.

 

You try an invasion of North Korea and at some point you're going to have to take Pyongyang. Pyonyang is a 2hr 34min drive (without traffic) to the Chinese border according to Google Maps.

 

Chinese simply won't allow it. Not ever.

 

The North Koreans might be dicks, but they're China's dicks.

 

That a good point - but let the South Koreans roll into Pyongyang, after the mighty round-eyes have decimated the place with smart weapons.

 

China cant legitimately complain about Koreans being in Korea (I wouldnt be surprised though).

[dave_min]

That a good point - but let the South Koreans roll into Pyongyang, after the mighty round-eyes have decimated the place with smart weapons.

 

China cant legitimately complain about Koreans being in Korea (I wouldnt be surprised though).

Other way round. The good Koreans should roll into Seoul.

 

Idiot.

[BrianFaePerth]

Other way round. The good Koreans should roll into Seoul.

 

Idiot.

 

They're on their way

 

[ChutneyLove]

Listen Murdoch influenced fuckboys - dinna worry aboot these chocolates. The nation in question don't have folk capable of manufacturing a watch that keeps good time. Nuclear weapon? They'd burn their own shadows into the poorly constructed Pyongyang pavements.

[Ke1t]

 

That a good point - but let the South Koreans roll into Pyongyang, after the mighty round-eyes have decimated the place with smart weapons.

 

China cant legitimately complain about Koreans being in Korea (I wouldnt be surprised though).

 

That's not going to work, and for precedent I'd point you towards the assumed Western takeover of Ukraine and the Russian reaction that.

 

Or, for a more accurate precedent, the Korean War.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

 

Or, for a more accurate precedent, the Korean War.

 

 

Its changed days though for the korean peninsula.

 

Think we westerners are feart more of the russkies than the reclusive norts!

 

Korea always reminds me of Rogue Trooper of 2000 AD fame.

[Ke1t]

 

 

Its changed days though for the korean peninsula.

 

Think we westerners are feart more of the russkies than the reclusive norts!

 

Korea always reminds me of Rogue Trooper of 2000 AD fame.

 

You take away Russia's nukes (which they'll never use) and you're left with a big, antiquated, poorly maintained military full of unmotivated conscripts and drunks. Their hardware would last about 10 seconds in a battle with Western armour, and I reckon the French and Germans could flatten the Russians without the help of any other NATO states.

 

The days of unlimited Soviet manpower are gone, the EU has something like 3 times their available pool of potential recruits to draw from. The newest and best stuff that the Russians rolled out in May is still stuck in development hell, and even if those prototypes were in a working condition the Russkies don't have the cash to build them. (source: Janes/Foxtrotalpha)

 

But let's suspend reality and say they could afford to build them, they don't have the infrastructure to mass produce or maintain operationality for any kind of serious combat operations. The West is geared towards a hi-tech military, the Russians are still mired in the notion of fielding masses of easily produced early T-X variants, and slapping on third party, after-market upgrades in a useless attempt to make a T-72 the equivalent of a Leo or Challenger II.

 

The Republican guard, which WAS (despite the propaganda) a very decent fighting force, armed with Russian equipment, and in large numbers, was annihilated by Western forces fighting in conditions that more suited Russian armour than Western.

 

Putin has shot his bolt. His "Little Green Men" tactic isn't going to work in a NATO country, and he doesn't have the muscle to confront NATO directly. He might bully some of the shitty countries around him, like Georgia and Ukraine, but the moment one Russian boot sets foot inside an EU or NATO state he knows he'll get his arse handed to him.

[tup]

Hud at, Kim Jong Un, ye fat cunt.

Incorrect spelling of receive ruined it

[King Street Loon]

Harsh

[looksgoodinred]

North Korea bans sarcasm because Kim Jong-un fears people only agree with him ‘ironically’

Mocking expression 'a fool who cannot see the outside world' is said to be circulating in North Korea

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/north-korea-bans-sarcasm-kim-jong-un-freedom-speech-a7231461.html

[E-P-K]

Good old North Korea has upped the ante, successfully testing of a nuke, twice as large as there previous best.