The Cockney Don Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Too soon for Tyson Fury ?https://www.boxingnews24.com/2018/07/tyson-fury-says-deontay-wilder-fight-close-to-being-done-for-dec/ Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Totally different circumstances for Fury and Joshua though. Wilder has a contract signed by Joshua to fight at Wembley on 13th April next year, it's him thats bottling it. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/6865243/anthony-joshua-deontay-wilder-eddie-hearn/ Old news man. Why should Joshua travel to the US? The contract is there for Wilder to fight him at Wembley, it's Wilder bottling it. Link to comment
minijc Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/6865243/anthony-joshua-deontay-wilder-eddie-hearn/ Old news man. Why should Joshua travel to the US? The contract is there for Wilder to fight him at Wembley, it's Wilder bottling it.There was $50m offered to Joshua but his owner knows he can milk the gullible here fighting the dregs, if fast Eddie can get Joshua against Povetkin then Whyte then he will, relatively easy pickins for the stiff fraud and a shit load of cash without the bubble getting burst. 2 Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 There was $50m offered to Joshua but his owner knows he can milk the gullible here fighting the dregs, if fast Eddie can get Joshua against Povetkin then Whyte then he will, relatively easy pickins for the stiff fraud and a shit load of cash without the bubble getting burst.Not if Wilder signs that contract. Link to comment
minijc Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Not if Wilder signs that contract.Joshua had a contract sent to him, Wilder had agreed to it, it's Hearn and the fraud that bottled the fight in America, Wilder said he'd come here too, if the fraud was worth his salt he'd have taken the fight in the states. 1 1 Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I reckon Joshua has earned the right to fight at home 2 Link to comment
minijc Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I reckon Joshua has earned the right to fight at homeCould say the same for WIlder then. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Yeah fair point. Boxing needs one organisation arranging the fights to stop all this pish, think that ship has sailed though Link to comment
NEM Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Too soon for Tyson Fury ?https://www.boxingnews24.com/2018/07/tyson-fury-says-deontay-wilder-fight-close-to-being-done-for-dec/ Fear it may be. He's going to have to show a hoor of an improvement from his last outing. Sounds like he's just after a big payday before retiring Link to comment
NEM Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/6865243/anthony-joshua-deontay-wilder-eddie-hearn/ Old news man. Why should Joshua travel to the US? The contract is there for Wilder to fight him at Wembley, it's Wilder bottling it. Why does the big fraud always have to fight at home? Shitebag behaviour Link to comment
boboisared Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I don't understand why folk think Joshua, Wilder, Fury etc duck anyone. They'd likely fight each other tomorrow for free. Link to comment
boboisared Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I genuinely don't know whether to respond properly, cause I can sense if you're being serious or not... Mayweather/Pacquiao is the only example I'll give at this time until I find out if you've lost the plot, or you're on the wind up...Being serious. You think the world champion is scared of fighting another world champion? What's this based on? The management makes the decisions. Joshua and Wilder would be delighted to fight each other. Their promoters have other ideas. Link to comment
minijc Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I kinda agree with bobo here, the issue is the promotor but I do think some of it has rubbed off on Joshua and he's brainwashed to take the easy option because the money is still great. Wilder said in interviews that he's messaged Joshua himself and he thinks he'd take the fight but it's out of his control. Link to comment
boboisared Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Now that you've explained it that way, then fair enough. Joshua is majorly protected by Hearn. Hearn is shit scared his media money making machine will lose to Wilder, and his money winning exercise by using Joshua then falls apart. You didn't explain it well in your first post, but understand you now.Aye, I didn't expect to be pulled up on it to be fair I just meant they're all fighters. One thing I will say, as soon as they reach the top there is habit of trying to get every fight on their own terms, but again this will be promoters. Link to comment
Poodler Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Now that you've explained it that way, then fair enough. Joshua is majorly protected by Hearn. Hearn is shit scared his media money making machine will lose to Wilder, and his money winning exercise by using Joshua then falls apart. You didn't explain it well in your first post, but understand you now.When the Povetkin fight was agreed, there was a fantastically funny article on Sky Sports about how this fight is really a dangerous one and more difficult than Wilder etc. Trying to persuade the masses to take it seriously...and pay for it I watch heavyweight boxing but fuck ever paying for it. Call me what you will. I dislike that Hearn bloke immensely. Link to comment
boboisared Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 When the Povetkin fight was agreed, there was a fantastically funny article on Sky Sports about how this fight is really a dangerous one and more difficult than Wilder etc. Trying to persuade the masses to take it seriously...and pay for it I watch heavyweight boxing but fuck ever paying for it. Call me what you will. I dislike that Hearn bloke immensely.You're not alone. Link to comment
Quagmire Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Aye, I didn't expect to be pulled up on it to be fair I just meant they're all fighters. One thing I will say, as soon as they reach the top there is habit of trying to get every fight on their own terms, but again this will be promoters. Don't really agree, fighters nowadays are turning themselves more into businessmen so they'll think in a tactical sense about who and when they want to fight. Especially in boxing where a loss seems to have more of an effect on a career than it does in MMA. Joshua loses all his momentum, pulling power and ability to control negotiations if he gets best. Obviously the promoters will have a huge influence/say but I don't think guys like AJ will fight anywhere and anytime with the money involved nowadays. Link to comment
boboisared Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Don't really agree, fighters nowadays are turning themselves more into businessmen so they'll think in a tactical sense about who and when they want to fight. Especially in boxing where a loss seems to have more of an effect on a career than it does in MMA. Joshua loses all his momentum, pulling power and ability to control negotiations if he gets best. Obviously the promoters will have a huge influence/say but I don't think guys like AJ will fight anywhere and anytime with the money involved nowadays. Only because there are so many late call offs in MMA (UFC in particular). Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Why does the big fraud always have to fight at home? Shitebag behaviourHas Wilder fought outside the US? Genuine question I honestly don't know (but doubt it) Link to comment
Quagmire Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Beat Audley Harrison in England. Link to comment
NEM Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Beat Audley Harrison in England. Was an amusing finish to that fight Link to comment
boboisared Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Is the video out of sync or does the count begin whilst Wilder is still throwing punches? Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Audley Harrison doesn't count though Link to comment
minijc Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Looks like Wilder v Fury in Las Vegas will be confirmed soon. Link to comment
Redstar Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 The boy fighting Fury looks like MT 5 years on from the nipper keeping him awake at night and missing sales targets... ... Link to comment
DelMonte Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I'd absolutely love Fury to beat both Wilder and Joshua. Link to comment
minijc Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I was happy with his performance last night however the guy he was fighting is mince and offered little, Fury's movement looked good and it was clear after 5 rounds he was just getting the rounds in, personally I'd have liked to have seen him get the boy out of there but realise that wasn't his aim at all, I also think the Wilder fight is maybe a bit too soon for him however you can't write Fury off, deep down I think he beat him and the fraud but it really comes down to how much he wants it and how good his camps are inbetween. 4 Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I was happy with his performance last night however the guy he was fighting is mince and offered little, Fury's movement looked good and it was clear after 5 rounds he was just getting the rounds in, personally I'd have liked to have seen him get the boy out of there but realise that wasn't his aim at all, I also think the Wilder fight is maybe a bit too soon for him however you can't write Fury off, deep down I think he beat him and the fraud but it really comes down to how much he wants it and how good his camps are inbetween.As they said last night if he doesnt take it now it could be years till he gets a shot at Wilder again and even longer for AJ. I reckon its to soon but could genuinely go either way. Should be a decent fight. Just hope who ever wins goes on to beat AJ. Frampton was class last night. Link to comment
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