Aberdeen sack Derek McInnes

[Betty Swallicks]

So whose to blame for the present buch of crap they are dishing up on the pitch. Milne for being a tight arsed chairman. ?The directors for not putting their money where their mouths are. ? Mcinnes and his assistant for being a couple of soft touches and don't know what the f---k they are doing, Mcinnes comes out with the same old shit comments week after week.? The so called scouting system. ? The prima Donas on the pitch. ? They will be out of the Scottish cup Sunday. After last nights debacle there's no way they will finds 4th. The fans suffer again it's time to start demonstrating with the feet, don't turn up. STENHOUSMUIRE ST MIRREN HAMILTON the failure to take any points off Celtic. )

 

Are you trying to say you think we'll finish 5th or lower?

[Betty Swallicks]

2014 - 2015 

 

Shay Logan

Scott Brown 

Ash Taylor

David Goodwillie

Kenny Mclean

Andrew Driver

Jeffery Monakana (loan)

Donervon Daniels  (loan)

 

2015-2016

 

Graeme Shinnie

Paul Quinn

Joe Nuttall

Aaron Lennox

Danny Ward (loan)

Josh Parker (loan)

Ryan MclLaughlin  (loan)

Adam Collin  (loan)

Simon Chruch (loan) 

 

2016-2017

 

Jayden Stockley

Joe Lewis

Neil Alexander

Callum Morris

Anthony O'connor

Miles Storey 

Wes Burns  (loan)

James Maddison (loan)

Ryan Christie  (loan)

 

2017-2018

 

Greg Tansey

Nicky Maynard

GMS 

Kari Arnason

Stevie May

Niall Mcginn

Michael Devlin 

Sam Cosgrove 

Ryan Christie  (loan)

Greg Stewart  (loan)

Dominic Ball

Chidi Nwakali

Kenny Mclean (sold and loaned back)

Freddie Woodman 

 

2018-2019

 

Lewis Ferguson 

Chris Forrester

Stephen Gleeson 

Tomas Cerny

Jordan Mcgregor 

Dominic Ball  (loan)

Tommie Hoban  (loan)

James Wilson  (loan)

Max Lowe  (loan)

Greg Stewart  (loan)

 

Lets see the 'hits', 'misses' and Unsure/unproven/whatever expression you would put players in this bracket. 

 

If I've spelt any names wrong I apologies in advance and I also dont care.

 

Ones in bold are failures.

Ones in italics are unsure/unproven etc.

 

Zero faith in his recruitment.

[C'monEweReds]

Ones in bold are failures.

Ones in italics are unsure/unproven etc.

 

Zero faith in his recruitment.

mostly agree apart from Stockley would probably have him in the failure department personally. Sure Exeter would have him in the 'hit' column however 

[BWG]

2014 - 2015 

 

Shay Logan

Scott Brown - shite

Ash Taylor - shite

David Goodwillie - shite

Kenny Mclean

Andrew Driver - shite

Jeffery Monakana (loan) - shite

Donervon Daniels  (loan) - shite

 

2015-2016

 

Graeme Shinnie

Paul Quinn - shite (that goal aside)

Joe Nuttall - signed as a youth

Aaron Lennox - shite

Danny Ward (loan)

Josh Parker (loan) - shite

Ryan MclLaughlin  (loan) - shite

Adam Collin  (loan) - worst keeper I have ever seen

Simon Chruch (loan) 

 

2016-2017

 

Jayden Stockley - shite

Joe Lewis

Neil Alexander

Callum Morris - shite

Anthony O'connor - shite

Miles Storey - shite

Wes Burns  (loan) - shite

James Maddison (loan)

Ryan Christie  (loan)

 

2017-2018

 

Greg Tansey - shite

Nicky Maynard - shite

GMS 

Kari Arnason - shite

Stevie May - shite

Niall Mcginn - shite since returning

Michael Devlin 

Sam Cosgrove - i still think he is shite but he's scoring so hard to argue with his place in the team right now.

Ryan Christie  (loan)

Greg Stewart  (loan) - shite

Dominic Ball - shite

Chidi Nwakali - shite

Kenny Mclean (sold and loaned back)

Freddie Woodman - shite

 

2018-2019

 

Lewis Ferguson 

Chris Forrester - shite

Stephen Gleeson - shite

Tomas Cerny

Jordan Mcgregor - who?

Dominic Ball  (loan) - shite

Tommie Hoban  (loan) - not shite but a disaster of a signing really.

James Wilson  (loan) - shite

Max Lowe  (loan)

Greg Stewart  (loan) - shite

 

Lets see the 'hits', 'misses' and Unsure/unproven/whatever expression you would put players in this bracket. 

 

If I've spelt any names wrong I apologies in advance and I also dont care.

The ones who are/were shite have shite next to their names.

[DelMonte]

Ones in bold are failures.

Ones in italics are unsure/unproven etc.

 

Zero faith in his recruitment.

When its all laid out like that the recruitment isn't bad. Very normal strike rate.

 

Last couple windows haven't been great.

[Parklife]

Stephen Gleeson is far from shite. There's a very decent player in there, one that'd compliment Shinnie's headless chicken routine well.

 

McInnes plays Dom Ball tough because he tries harder in training. LOL

[oilcat]

Aaron Lennox.....did he not play one fucking game against Ross County at Pittodrie and lost 4 goals?...one of the worst keepers evvvver

[shooftahmooftah]

Are you trying to say you think we'll finish 5th or lower?

Kilmarnock 3rd hearts 4th. If Milne Mcinnes and company don't fix this shite.

[shooftahmooftah]

mostly agree apart from Stockley would probably have him in the failure department personally. Sure Exeter would have him in the 'hit' column however

Add Mcinnes And his buddie Milne to the shit list.

[AllyDon]

Only way McInnes will go is if he decides to leave himself. No way Milne will sack him.

 

Can't see McInnes going himself unless he gets a job down south.

 

McInnes shelf life has expired with us (for me a long time ago) but I fear he will be around until his contract expires and even then Milne may just decide to extend his contract.

[Ten Caat]

Kilmarnock 3rd hearts 4th. If Milne Mcinnes and company don't fix this shite.

Hibs are quietly getting themselves on a run of victories ana. With a trip to the paedodome up next for us they won't be all that far behind either. If we don't arrest this home slump pronto it's not inconceivable we could finish out of the European places. And that would be a sacking offence.

[Torry Tosser]

Which jobs has he been linked with apart from Sunderland?

Manager of new Lidl store in Hartlepool, and Kentucky Fried Chicken in Blackpool.

[Yorston Vasey]

I'm more convinced than ever the cunt needs to shave to bring back the glory days.

 

The beard is the issue. One final one trophy without it, we've lost three finals since he's grown it.

[aberdeen1970]

Too many loans in the last 2 seasons for me.

 

I know we need to play the loan market to our advantage because everyone else does but there's a limit beyond which I think it becomes ineffective. 5/6 players on loan is too much.  I think it alters the balance

[Torry Tosser]

I'm more convinced than ever the cunt needs to shave to bring back the glory days.

 

The beard is the issue. One final one trophy without it, we've lost three finals since he's grown it.

Did ye ken there's more bacteria in a blokes beard than a dogs arse.

Filthy lazy bastards dont shave..

[shooftahmooftah]

I'm more convinced than ever the cunt needs to shave to bring back the glory days.

 

The beard is the issue. One final one trophy without it, we've lost three finals since he's grown it.

The mystery is what's he hiding under the beard. He may have to get a skin graft to remove the tattoo of the gulf of India.

[reekie_dock]

2014 - 2015

 

Shay Logan

Scott Brown

Ash Taylor

David Goodwillie

Kenny Mclean

Andrew Driver

Jeffery Monakana (loan)

Donervon Daniels (loan)

 

2015-2016

 

Graeme Shinnie

Paul Quinn

Joe Nuttall

Aaron Lennox

Danny Ward (loan)

Josh Parker (loan)

Ryan MclLaughlin (loan)

Adam Collin (loan)

Simon Chruch (loan)

 

2016-2017

 

Jayden Stockley

Joe Lewis

Neil Alexander

Callum Morris

Anthony O'connor

Miles Storey

Wes Burns (loan)

James Maddison (loan)

Ryan Christie (loan)

 

2017-2018

 

Greg Tansey

Nicky Maynard

GMS

Kari Arnason

Stevie May

Niall Mcginn

Michael Devlin

Sam Cosgrove

Ryan Christie (loan)

Greg Stewart (loan)

Dominic Ball

Chidi Nwakali

Kenny Mclean (sold and loaned back)

Freddie Woodman

 

2018-2019

 

Lewis Ferguson

Chris Forrester

Stephen Gleeson

Tomas Cerny

Jordan Mcgregor

Dominic Ball (loan)

Tommie Hoban (loan)

James Wilson (loan)

Max Lowe (loan)

Greg Stewart (loan)

 

Lets see the 'hits', 'misses' and Unsure/unproven/whatever expression you would put players in this bracket.

 

If I've spelt any names wrong I apologies in advance and I also dont care.

Missed oot big Calvin Zola

 

Massive cock

[Parklife]

Too many loans in the last 2 seasons for me.

 

I know we need to play the loan market to our advantage because everyone else does but there's a limit beyond which I think it becomes ineffective. 5/6 players on loan is too much. I think it alters the balance

I don't mind quality loans. Getting shite like Dom Ball on loan is fucking pointless though.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Far far far far from our worst offender especially in a year when we’ve lost both full backs (one of whom is a loan) and key central defender.

[Parklife]

Far far far far from our worst offender especially in a year when we’ve lost both full backs (one of whom is a loan) and key central defender.

I never said he was our worst offender. We were discussing loans. I said it's pointless getting shite like him on loan. He's a poorer center midfielder than Gleeson (and probably Campbell too) and hides from the ball. What are we gaining by getting a mediocre shitebag on loan?

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Cover. Much Required cover as it turns out. Exactly what a loan should be.

 

Two extremes. The Dom Ball safe sex option and the James Madison fantasy shag option. Latterly We seem to specialise in the “pump the wife cos it’s friday and you have to” variety.

[fine-n-dandy]

Steve Clarke is not going to happen. He will not leave Kilmarnock for any other job in Scotland. He said this himself yesterday.

If he doesn't get a job offer that appeals in England & we came in for him. He would certainly leave Killie to come to us.

Regardless of what he's fobbed off a couple of stirring/fishing weegie reporters with.

 

Not sure what your point is there as our present position reflects our budget! 3rd in the league, already been in one cup final and still in the quarters of the other.

The main point for me is the football he's got us playing, particularly this season has been grim t watch and his recruitment has been poor but as some have said it's been going stale for a while now and definitely time to freshen things up. Problem is how do we do that?

There's no doubt DM has done a great job stabilising us and bringing respectability back but who do we replace him with? I'd prefer him to stay and maybe bring in a new assistant with new ideas maybe?

He should have been binned two seasons ago for finishing second in every domestic competition to a Celtic side with a wage budget probably 10x what his was? Yeah ok.

In case you're unaware away wins count just as much as home ones and you seem to be unaware as you just completely dismiss the fact we have won 6 away games in the league on the bounce. Don't get me wrong I'm as pissed off as anyone about our recent home form in the league it's nowhere near good enough. But since the cup final defeat at the start of December we have played 15 league games with 9 wins, 4 defeats and 2 draws. We are still in the SC and 3rd in the league. And immediately before the cup final we had won 3 of our previous 4 league games (plus beat the hun at Hampden in the LC). An AFC manager is not going to get sacked for those stats nor should he be expected to walk.

That being said last night's defeat was arguably the worst of McInnes' AFC tenure. He needs to get a proper reaction from the players now because losing to utter shite like Hamilton at home is unacceptable as is 5 home league games without a win. A good start would be knocking the hun out of the cup on Sunday.

The point is he has done NOTHING but prove he is a blatantly average manager at best & only our shite managerial records prior to him has made some believe he is some kind of messiah & secured him the safety net of never being under any real pressure of losing his position.

 

He has achieved NOTHING more than you would expect with our budget, imo he should have achieved more given budget. Especially in the cups.

Even shitey managers win cups & with lesser budgets as has been proven. Even during McInnes tenure.

 

Average with St Johnstone (Even Tommy Wright has proven better than him for them)

Utterly useless with Bristol City

Average with us & given the serious boost to his Tenure with us by a lot of crazy circumstances

 

Fear of us finding someone better than blatantly average is his saving grace. Our history under Milne has introduced a lot of shitebaggery into our support

[Dandyesque]

Players like Ash Taylor and O'Connor I never particularly rated, but it's hard to call them failures of signings when they made major contributions to our league positions at the time.

They were, by and large, better signings than his equivalent managers were making at the time. Exceptions here and there. The real disappointments have been Forrester, Tansey and so - signed with a bit of a fanfare and delivered nothing.

 

Stockley was shit but we made a few hundred grand off a free transfer who rarely troubled the starting XI so that's not a failure either.

 

There's been gambles that haven't worked and gambles that have - safe bets with the same outcome.

[Dandyesque]

Edit - double post

[RUL]

If he doesn't get a job offer that appeals in England & we came in for him. He would certainly leave Killie to come to us.

Regardless of what he's fobbed off a couple of stirring/fishing weegie reporters with.

 

The point is he has done NOTHING but prove he is a blatantly average manager at best & only our shite managerial records prior to him has made some believe he is some kind of messiah & secured him the safety net of never being under any real pressure of losing his position.

 

He has achieved NOTHING more than you would expect with our budget, imo he should have achieved more given budget. Especially in the cups.

Even shitey managers win cups & with lesser budgets as has been proven. Even during McInnes tenure.

 

Average with St Johnstone (Even Tommy Wright has proven better than him for them)

Utterly useless with Bristol City

Average with us & given the serious boost to his Tenure with us by a lot of crazy circumstances

 

Fear of us finding someone better than blatantly average is his saving grace. Our history under Milne has introduced a lot of shitebaggery into our support

 

The problem is you just rant for the sake of ranting. He has not achieved "NOTHING" and it means nobody can take your post seriously as you are not willing to give him any credit whatsoever. You only come out when we lose trotting shite so hopefully we can win on Sunday just so we can get a break from you for a week.

[Ten Caat]

I never said he was our worst offender. We were discussing loans. I said it's pointless getting shite like him on loan. He's a poorer center midfielder than Gleeson (and probably Campbell too) and hides from the ball. What are we gaining by getting a mediocre shitebag on loan?

You are going to be a bitterly disappointed chappie when we sign him permanently in the summer...

[Parklife]

Cover. Much Required cover as it turns out. Exactly what a loan should be.

 

Two extremes. The Dom Ball safe sex option and the James Madison fantasy shag option. Latterly We seem to specialise in the “pump the wife cos it’s friday and you have to” variety.

Nope. Cover is what the youngsters are for.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Granted. But in the event, defence in particular, that we have no cover...

 

Very few sides punting a 17yo straight into CH.

[Betty Swallicks]

We had cover. McInnes punted him to the jutes on loan.

[fine-n-dandy]

The problem is you just rant for the sake of ranting. He has not achieved "NOTHING" and it means nobody can take your post seriously as you are not willing to give him any credit whatsoever. You only come out when we lose trotting shite so hopefully we can win on Sunday just so we can get a break from you for a week.

You twist/omit some things I say to suit your view of what I say. Which is to completely write off what I say as exaggeration. I didn't say he has achieved NOTHING & (as you imply) that was it

I say he has achieved NOTHING more than his budget & most certainly 'advantageous' circumstances would be expected AT THE VERY LEAST.

 

Some are unwilling to accept these things & fall back on the usual bs 'you can only beat what's in front of you' argument as some kind of excuse for these advantages he has benefited from.

 

A run of second places & being pretty much the only side other than Celtic to have been consistent in the complete shambles that has been the Top league in the SPFL may seem massively respectable to some but given the budgets it really hasn't. Other teams astonishing failures (& I include ALL OF Huns, Hibs, Hearts, Utd) & inability to run their shit show in any kind of sensible way does NOT make McInnes a better manager. Yes it allows him to hide behind some folks delusional beliefs in him being such but it really isn't the case. The run of second places is worthy of VERY little credit imo given all the circumstances that helped. That wouldn't have taken anything more than an average manager.

The cup win on penalties v Caley in 2014 & not really beating anything of note in said run is also nothing more than any average manager could/should & HAS achieved but because it took all our previous SHITE 19 years of failure. It was MASSIVELY exaggerated out of pure relief.

 

It's no secret I have not liked him as manager for a long time. I will also be the first to admit that I am generally pretty hard to please & being just average doesn't do that for me. Especially when given huge advantages to be better than average (in McInnes' case) I myself am blatantly average at many things & whilst I have come to accept this, it still doesn't please me like it appears it would other folk with differing outlooks to mine. We cannot all be exceptional at everything but being blatantly average at what is essentially your bread & butter, should not be what a club like Aberdeen (whilst desperately needed after a long time of failures) is willing to settle for.

 

Of course there has been a good few FANTASTIC results in his time but that also happens with ALL average managers.

Can anyone seriously say that McInnes has ever really OVER achieved during any time in his whole managerial career? Not that I can see & whilst what he has done with Aberdeen is undoubtedly his best (certainly in terms of consistency) it has been nothing close to spectacular.