tightbreeks Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Aj v ruiz jr. Ruiz jr got beat by parker so I think aj will just have to outjab him for twelve rounds and occasionally release the right hand. I was at the Parker fight and that's what he did. Usually the champ gets the benefit of the doubt but i think dazn and sky will want aj to win. I do like ruiz jr, he reminds me of prime fedor, just a bloke who knew his onions. Just shows you don't have to look like an adonis. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 If aj wins they'll have to do that Muhammed ali trophy thing and find out who is the man. Fury, wilder, joshua, and maybe someone like dillian whyte. Link to comment
Shinniesta Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 It's good that there is some excitement in the heavyweight division after the boring Klitschko years. Fury, Wilder, Joshua and Ruiz with the likes of Whyte knocking on the door. A good mix of personalities amongst them which has brought a lot interest back from the general public. The truth is though that they are not of the quality of the top 90's heavyweights. The likes of Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe and Tyson were on a different level in my opinion. Some people saying Wilder is supposedly the hardest punching heavyweight ever. In my opinion the likes of Lewis, Bowe and Tyson hit just as hard if not harder and all had far greater technique. Lewis and Bowe would have flattened Wilder. Holyfield at his best would have walked right through him. Tyson eats him up like pacman. I watched Holyfield vs Tyson I again the other night. Watching how fast, tough and skilled they both were just rammed it home how much better they were than today's top heavies. It was a great era for the heavyweight division many of even the fringe contenders would likely be champions in today's era. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I bet bowe regrets chucking the wbc belt in the bin and not fighting lewis. Even if he got beat, massive pay day. Probably his manager rock newman thought it was a good idea. D'oh Link to comment
Shinniesta Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I bet bowe regrets chucking the wbc belt in the bin and not fighting lewis. Even if he got beat, massive pay day. Probably his manager rock newman thought it was a good idea. D'ohYeah Bowe wasn't sharpest knife in the drawer. But when he was motivated he was a massive threat to anyone. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 He should've taken the fight, after he saw what rahman and mccall did to Lewis. I think he's broke now, signing gloves and thinking what could've been. Fan man was a beauty, landed in amongst bowes homies, aw shit he must've thought. Link to comment
Shinniesta Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Problem was Lewis had beaten Bowe in the 88 Olympic final and was maybe still inside his head a bit at that time. I can see his manager's thinking...fight Lewis later make some money first with easy defences which against Dokes and Jesse Ferguson he blew them both away making several million dollars in the process. But he then lost the Holyfield rematch. People forget though that after losing that fight to Holyfield in 93 Bowe signed to fight Lewis for the WBC belt in 94 all Lewis had to do was beat his mandatory challenger Oliver McCall and we all know what happened there. https://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/18/sports/bowe-and-lewis-fight-is-on.html Link to comment
minijc Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Automatic rematches tend to follow a similar path to the first fight, a lot of people getting carried away with AJs weight loss, that won't make stop him from making the same mistakes though and I feel Ruiz jr is just such a better boxer than him, his hand speed and combinations would be an issue for most, add in that he can take a shot and has a decent amount of power himself it's an absolute nightmare for AJ. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 He is, total Mexican way of fighting but at heavyweight. If Joshua loses then that's that, coz i think fury would beat ruiz no problem. Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Dillian Whyte cleared of doping and reinstated as number 1 contender for wilder's belt. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Did dillian whyte not do celebrity masterchef when he was banned. He'd love another crack at joshua and he deserves to fight for the wbc, unfortunately for him, join the queue Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Love tyson fury when he fights, it's like he has a fanny. Fury should beat wilder, he can punch but he needs to dominate wilder to strip him of the title. He just lacks that big bosher. If he gets decked again, even though he dominates I can't see the judges giving it to fury. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 On saying that, I would not like a punch from fury. Link to comment
The Cockney Don Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 GO ON ANDY, DO IT AGAIN SON. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Let's hope for a donnybrook Link to comment
Shinniesta Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Ruiz has weighed in over a stone heavier than he did in the first fight! His excuse for being so heavy last time was a lack of preparation time which he cannot use now. No wonder he never took his top off at the weigh in. For a heavyweight of his height to weigh in at over 20 stones with the amount of time he has had to prepare is ridiculous. I sense a lack of motivation from him here saying things like " he has achieved his dream" etc etc. I wonder how seriously he has taken his training. I think he could be the next Buster Douglas...talented but let down by a lack of discipline and motivation. I think AJ is going to get his revenge here. Ruiz will still have that punchers chance but I can't see how turning up weighting 20+ stone is going to be a positive for him. Link to comment
minijc Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Ruiz has weighed in over a stone heavier than he did in the first fight! His excuse for being so heavy last time was a lack of preparation time which he cannot use now. No wonder he never took his top off at the weigh in. For a heavyweight of his height to weigh in at over 20 stones with the amount of time he has had to prepare is ridiculous. I sense a lack of motivation from him here saying things like " he has achieved his dream" etc etc. I wonder how seriously he has taken his training. I think he could be the next Buster Douglas...talented but let down by a lack of discipline and motivation. I think AJ is going to get his revenge here. Ruiz will still have that punchers chance but I can't see how turning up weighting 20+ stone is going to be a positive for him.Too much being made about his weight, they've either decided to come in heavier or something has went wrong during camp, also a few pundits at the weigh in don't think he's actually that weight either and they seen him up close yesterday. Link to comment
Shinniesta Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Too much being made about his weight, they've either decided to come in heavier or something has went wrong during camp, also a few pundits at the weigh in don't think he's actually that weight either and they seen him up close yesterday.We will soon find out. I just think if he's around the 20 stone mark that is not an ideal fighting weight for any heavyweight far less the world champion. It has to slow his overall movement down even if his hands will still be relatively fast. Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Suggestions of weights in his pockets from some media outlets. Link to comment
Dusk( 2 Stars )Don Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Had a metal sunbero on. Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Hope Mexico can do the business here. Let's focus on AJ's criminal past and drug cheating. Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Shite game of skipping.Wouldn't get away with that on Market Street. Sky commentators managed to make it even worse. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Jab central, he was about to let one go but, jab jab. I doubt ruiz will get another shot. Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Joshua comfortable throughout. Link to comment
minijc Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Really good performance from Joshua, probably his best, most disciplined one of his career. Link to comment
Henry Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 His manager maybe pinned up your prediction on the dressing room wall. 1 Link to comment
Jocky Balboa Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 It's good that there is some excitement in the heavyweight division after the boring Klitschko years. Fury, Wilder, Joshua and Ruiz with the likes of Whyte knocking on the door. A good mix of personalities amongst them which has brought a lot interest back from the general public. The truth is though that they are not of the quality of the top 90's heavyweights. The likes of Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe and Tyson were on a different level in my opinion. Some people saying Wilder is supposedly the hardest punching heavyweight ever. In my opinion the likes of Lewis, Bowe and Tyson hit just as hard if not harder and all had far greater technique. Lewis and Bowe would have flattened Wilder. Holyfield at his best would have walked right through him. Tyson eats him up like pacman. I watched Holyfield vs Tyson I again the other night. Watching how fast, tough and skilled they both were just rammed it home how much better they were than today's top heavies. It was a great era for the heavyweight division many of even the fringe contenders would likely be champions in today's era.Good post, I would have to agree with this, yet it's interesting to note that there was a consensus at the time that Lewis's era was a poor one in heavyweight history, so that's a sad indictment on today's state of play for sure. IMHO Joshua is, like David Haye before him, one of the most overrated heavyweights of the modern era. Link to comment
maryhilldon Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Who was the scouse commentator? I've never heard such over the top arse licking in my life! Outrageous praise for a decent performance. Joshuas arms must be a foot longer than Ruizs, all he had to was jab, stay out of reach and keep moving. Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Who was the scouse commentator? I've never heard such over the top arse licking in my life! Outrageous praise for a decent performance. Joshuas arms must be a foot longer than Ruizs, all he had to was jab, stay out of reach and keep moving.Tony Bellew Link to comment
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