Sevco Thread

[Henry]

 

Sectarian singing heard during Rangers' match against Hibernian at Ibrox is to be discussed by the Scottish Professional Football League board.

Chanting from sections of the home support made up part of the league delegate's report from the Scottish Championship game on 28 December.

And the matter will be discussed at a meeting on 19 January.

However, the BBC understands it is unlikely that action will be taken because of current league rules.

Sectarian singing has featured in a number of domestic delegate reports in recent years.

But the club has provided the league with evidence that they were doing everything in their power to prevent such behaviour.

Rangers have also been fined by European governing body Uefa relating to offensive chanting in European matches.

It has led to calls for a rule change within the Scottish game in a bid to tackle the problem.

Following the match against Hibs, which Rangers won 4-2, the Glasgow club issued a website statement condemning fans who took part in what they described as "inappropriate singing".

Rangers stressed it was a minority of fans involved and said would assist Police Scotland in identifying the culprits.

Police Scotland says its enquiries are ongoing, saying: "As is the case with all matches, footage and other evidence will be reviewed and action taken if and when appropriate."

Uefa fined Rangers in 2006 and ordered the club to make a public announcement at each of their home games pointing out that the chanting of the Billy Boys was banned after it was heard during a Champions League match against Villarreal.

 

 

[Pudgie]

 

 

Fit league rules? Let's nae take action against them so we can get our Bigotfest 3 times a year minimum?! Fucking shite!

[muttonhumper]

But the club has provided the league with evidence that they were doing everything in their power to prevent such behaviour.

Just fuck off.

 

Absolute fucking drivel.

 

More like Paul Murray met Doncaster and Regan for some cosy dinner in the back room of a top Weege restaurant.

 

Donkey: What about that terrible fuss in the papers over a wee sing song?

Murray: I know. Shocking. Was a great atmosphere and clearly a tremendous advert for the Scottish game.

Regan: Aboslutely. So Paul, er...

Murray: How about a wee half hearted statement on the club website?

Doncaster: Spot on buddy! That'll prove that you're doing ALL you can to stamp this out.

All: Cheers!

[fine-n-dandy]

Fit league rules? Let's nae take action against them so we can get our Bigotfest 3 times a year minimum?! Fucking shite!

Guessing if they can show they are doing 'all they can' to tackle the problem, then they cannot punish them.

[fine-n-dandy]

Orcs get off without even a slap on the wrist & other clubs will be slaughtered & made an example of when a couple of idiots get caught being idiots

[Pudgie]

Orcs get off without even a slap on the wrist & other clubs will be slaughtered & made an example of when a couple of idiots get caught being idiots

Namely the thick cunt that called "Wee Jay", Celtic's PR cow who they appear to be milking until it's totally dry, who is now banned from all football for a year. How someone video'd singing that shite can't be banned I'll never know. One bobby a game could do 10 cunts. Instant year ban and see how many sectarian fuckwits think it's "banter" after that.

[zander]

Does anyone expect anything different?

This shite is ingrained in Scottish society and will continue to be for years. Police,politicians et all are all involved in such nonsense.

[fine-n-dandy]

Look there was only a small minority that weren't singing the sectarian pish. There is no way they will be able to locate them, so they cannot possibly punish them until they find all the innocent ones.

[tup]

The sectarian songs are sung at every single fucking hun game where there's a large enough crowd that they can get away with it.

 

Anyone who says anything else is in denial, the club had, has and will continue to have a bigoted core to their support and rather than do anything to tackle it they openly encourage it to make money.

 

A filth ridden organisation, run by bigots, supported by bigots, and justified by maggot hun bigots in prominent media positions, the laptop loyal of the mainstream media who spin everything in the cheating bastards favour.

 

It's like the mafioso, criticise them and you're a target, Jim Spence for example, so nobody calls them out for what they really are.

 

That aberration in the first division should be expelled from football for trading insolvently.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

Despite his lies to the contrary here is a statement confirming that he cannot even produce £500,000 to match Rangers First. This is a PR disaster. King is either flat broke or unwilling to loan his own money.

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Rangers First should be aware that if they loan the club £500,000 this will only cover King’s legal expenses.

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Should the supporters clubs crowdfund King’s legal expenses their stupidity will be unparalleled.

 

https://johnjamessite.wordpress.com/2016/01/07/no-flies-on-king/#comments

 

I would bet the false "King will match the supporters contribution" was put out there by the more astute (i.e. less retarded) members of the fan groups, trying to smoke King out.

 

And from poster Jasper, In the comment section:

 

"Present company excepted, how gullible is the average fan of this club? Even a 5 year old knows when his parents are stringing him along for goodness sake."

[Clydeside_Sheep]

To be honest, I think, in some way, the huns themselves are a form of victim of their own sectarian sh*te.

 

If nothing else, they just look stupid. They never stop parroting on about dignity, respect and class, yet in popular conception they are synonymous with prejudice, ignorance and base behaviour.

 

There are some decent (if highly dysfunctional, with questionable hygiene) ones among them and they are embarrassed by it - because its often true that you can judge a man by the company he keeps.

 

And as for the rest, well: this is all they have. Its all they have in their lives and, despite how unpleasant it is, I cant help but think that's a shame that some people only have a form of prejudice in their lives to represent a kind of quasi-identity.

 

I have read some of their forums, for a laugh (in these despondent days for them) and yet was honestly quite shocked by some of them - their world view is depressing, they imagine they are locked in some perpetual social struggle with "the other" and live in the past, and they obsess over things from the past, such as the Provisional IRA. How can we ever more on ,or heal society, if people want to live in the past?

 

I am sure the phenomenon would find some parallels among the kind of losers who join racist / white supremacist groups and islamic extremist groups etc.

 

When people are keen to assert their imagined superiority, its usually because they feel inferior.

[vanderark14]

According to Tom English who isn't exactly a fan of The Huns, they won't be punished because there is no punishment in place for it. The song is banned but there is no actual punishment in place, why is this? It's because the SPFL as in the clubs themselves do not want it.

 

Sounds like the clubs, including AFC don't have the balls to stand up to them.

[Robbie Winters]

According to Tom English who isn't exactly a fan of The Huns, they won't be punished because there is no punishment in place for it. The song is banned but there is no actual punishment in place, why is this? It's because the SPFL as in the clubs themselves do not want it.

 

Sounds like the clubs, including AFC don't have the balls to stand up to them.

So UEFA can punish them as they have done previously but SPFL can't

Actually in a strange kind of way this publicity will encourage the mongs to up the ante with them, keep stoking the fires

[boboisared]

But the hun at my work said they were singing 'up to our knees in EBT's'.

[Tommy]

But the hun at my work said they were singing 'up to our knees in EBT's'.

Some might well have been but many weren't.

Cheer up Alan Stubbs certainly was unchanged lyrics.

WAATIDWM is probably unacceptable in these cretins eyes.

Dish it out, take it back.

[boboisared]

Some might well have been but many weren't.

Cheer up Alan Stubbs certainly was unchanged lyrics.

WAATIDWM is probably unacceptable in these cretins eyes.

Dish it out, take it back.

I was being facetious Tom.

[Tommy]

I was being facetious Tom.

That's not very nice :-)

[boboisared]

That's not very nice :-)

Sorry Tom. I've been getting bullied on the forum over the past couple of days and it's taking a toll!

[The Oxford Don]

Some might well have been but many weren't.

Cheer up Alan Stubbs certainly was unchanged lyrics.

WAATIDWM is probably unacceptable in these cretins eyes.

Dish it out, take it back.

 

Took me a minute!

[Tommy]

Took me a minute!

About the same as me :-)

[Clydeside_Sheep]

According to Tom English who isn't exactly a fan of The Huns, they won't be punished because there is no punishment in place for it. The song is banned but there is no actual punishment in place, why is this? It's because the SPFL as in the clubs themselves do not want it.

 

Sounds like the clubs, including AFC don't have the balls to stand up to them.

 

Thats absolutely correct.

 

However it is not an acceptable situation - for example, the clubs didnt get to choose whether or not they addresed racism.

[AFCaketin]

Love seeing all these diddys that they are signing coming out with stuff like 'its a massive club with aspirations of champions league football' lollercoaster!!

[G31DON]

How any of their moronic fans can still think there is a "war chest", god I hate that phrase, ready to be spent when they are signing free transfers from Acrington Stanley really amazes me.

[dervish]

It's a joke, simple code, an anagram. Huns salivating over 'Rat Chews' is standard.

[muttonhumper]

Just spied the new list of indictments in fraud case which were placed earlier this week in court.

These crooks now being charged with the issues that I thought clearly should have happened at the time.

ie

• That the assets (including Ibrox) should have been put up for sale to provide money for the creditors pot.
• That the valuation of assets (£1.5 million for Ibrox) was outrageously deceitful. They valued it at £120 million in 2003 (also for the purpose of deceit) and last year valued at £80 million.
• That it was illegal through phoenixing laws to call the new club a similar name to the liquidated one. ie Changing the club's name from it's original (Sevco Scotland) to The Rangers Football club.

If the sale of Ibrox and other assets was proved to be fraud, therefore proceeds of crime, what happens to them? There are many theories out there but you would think the assets should be returned to liquidators and sold to add to the creditors pot. Though it may go back to the previous fraud if Whyte is found guilty too. Fuck knows.

 

 

Other intriguing things in there:

• The raising of the £21,000,000 in the IPO by fraud. How would investors get their cash back?
• The switcheroo of exclusivity from Sevco 5088 to Sevco Scotland. WTF.

 

So not content with the now defunct Rangers ruining the Scottish game by cheating for minimum 15 (more likely 25) years, you have this tribute act born out of fraud and clearly also cheating their way through the last 3.5 years, with carte blanche from the SFA / SPFL to do as they please.

 

Just shows you.

Crooks then, crooks now, crooks forever.

Add in the rabid bigotry of the support, then you can see why it is beyond belief the narrative from the SFA / SMSM fuckwits, that we NEED this lot to prosper, or indeed survive.

Fucking lunacy. The corruption at all levels in their favour is appalling.

Utter disgrace of an "institution".

 

 

Here is a summary of the updated indictment, which is a public document.
CW – Whyte, GW – Withey, DG – Grier, DW – Whitehouse, PC – Paul Clark, CG – Green, IA Ahmad
Substance of the charges:

1. CW, GW, DG, DW, PC conspired to obtain funds by fraud from Jerome, Merchant and Ticketus to fund the fraudulent purchase of the club (offence was aggravated)
• CW & GW obtained £2,825,000 by fraud from the trustees of the Jerome Pension Fund
• CW & GW obtained £1,000,00 by fraud from Merchant Turnaround PLC
• CW, GW & DG made false representations to Rangers Independent committee about the funding of the purchase
• CW & GW obtained £24,337,094 by fraud from Ticketus
• CW & GW made false representations to the Takeover panel re the funding
• CW failed to disclose a disqualification as a director
• CW & GW made false representation to the PLUS stock exchange re CW’s disqualification
• CW, GW & DG made false representations to Murray Holdings Ltd re funding of the purchase and the future funding of the club including the wee tax case (£2,800,000) and an H&S liability (£1,700,000)

 

2. CW & GW contravened the proceeds of crime act using the £28,262,094 obtained by fraud when purchasing the club

 

3. DG, DW & PC failed to report suspicions of Money Laundering by CW & GW using “Financial Assistance” to purchase the club, contrary to the proceeds of crime act

 

4. CW, GW, DG, DW, PC did conspire together to act as in Charge 1

 

5. CW & GW breached the Companies Act by using the clubs own money to fund the acquisition (Financial Assistance”

 

6. CW & GW committed fraud by failing to disclose CW’s disqualification to the SFA

 

7. CW & DG committed fraud by falsely submitting invoices for £253,800 to Rangers which should have been submitted to Liberty Capital.

 

8. CW & DG committed fraud by falsely submitting invoices for £409,320 to Rangers which should have been submitted to Liberty Capital.

 

9. CW & DG committed fraud by falsely submitting invoices for £66,120 to Rangers which should have been submitted to Liberty Capital.

 

10. CW, GW, DG, DW & PC conspired to defraud creditors, including non-payment of taxes and while they ran the club in order to facilitate CW in buying back the club debt free, which was in breach of the Companies Act

 

11. DW & PC perverted the course of justice when stating to Lord Hodge that they were unaware of the Ticketus arrangements

 

12. CW, GW, DW, PC, CG & IA conspired to defraud creditors by purchasing the club’s business and assets significantly below market value.
• CW, DW & PC sought to put the club in administration• Caused the court to appoint DW & PC as administrators
• DW & PC falsely pretended to act in the interests of all creditors
• CG falsely presented himself as an independent purchaser
• DW & PC pretended that the purpose of administration was to get the best return for creditors
• CW acquired Sevco 5088 of which CG was appointed director• CG received £25,000 from CW to pay legal fees related to Sevco 5088
• CG paid the legal fees with the £25,000
• IA paid the administrators DW & PC £200,000 as an exclusivity fee
• DW & PC granted Sevco 5088 exclusivity to the exclusion of other prospective purchasers
• CW paid £137,000 into IA’s mother’s account as part payment of the exclusivity fee
• DW & PC completed a sale and purchase agreement with CG on behalf of both Sevco 5088 and Sevco Scotland for a price of £5,500,000, significantly below market value.
• DW & PC falsely advised creditors that SPL prize money was reflected in the consideration paid for the assets, but the sale and purchase agreement reflected a “nil” consideration
• P,ermitted the transfer of £291,823.10 from Rangers Youth Development to help fund the purchase of assets

 

13. CW GW, DW, PC, CG & IA participated in a conspiracy to purchase the business and assets of the club depriving creditors of the rightful sums due to them and the material benefit going to themselves

 

14. CW and IA defrauded investors in Sevco 5088 and RIFC, acquiring money and shares by fraud and to increase the value of their shares in RIFC
• CW pretended he had no interest in Sevco 5088• Induced investors to put £5,500,000 into Sevco 5088
• CG caused the change of exclusivity from Sevco 5088 to Sevco Scotland without proper approval
• CG did appropriate the £5,500,000 invested in Sevco 5088 by fraud without the investors knowledge or agreement
• CG & IA allotted themselves 2,000,000 shares
• CG & IA changed the name of Sevco Scotland to The Rangers Football Club
• CG & IA appointed Cenkos as a nomad but failed to advise them of the source of funding through Sevco 5088
• CG & IA thereby raised £21,000,000 in the IPO by fraud

 

15. CW failed to provide police with mobile phone and laptop passwords, when requested, in breach of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act by police contrary to the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act

[vanderark14]

So UEFA can punish them as they have done previously but SPFL can't

Actually in a strange kind of way this publicity will encourage the mongs to up the ante with them, keep stoking the fires

Correct

[Guest the shepherd]

 

Thats absolutely correct.

 

However it is not an acceptable situation - for example, the clubs didnt get to choose whether or not they addresed racism.

True but it cracks me up when you eventually get to enter the away end at Ibrox after being groped by the local polis when you see them promoting 'Show Racism The Card' via posters when these cunts actively promote racism on a second by second basis. Fuck rangers, fuck sevco (never got my head around what this actually means and it pisses me off when I hear it mentioned), fuck whatever they call themselves nowadays. Fuck them.

[fine-n-dandy]

It's Scottish cup day guys Big game on today

[muttonhumper]

It's Scottish cup day guys Big game on today

 

Mods, he's right.

 

Cancel all other threads bar Scottish Cup one and the match thread until midnight.

Cheers.

[Henry]

 

Rangers' Wi-Fi providers are seeking to have £300,000 arrested from the club's bank accounts last month set aside until a legal dispute over an unpaid bill is settled.

IT firm, 802 Works Limited, is pursuing the Ibrox side over non-payment of bills. A sheriff granted an arrestment warrant for £300,000 against Rangers on December 31.

At Glasgow Sheriff Court on Tuesday, a hearing was held to argue if the cash should remain ring-fenced. The IT firm claim WiFi at Ibrox stopped when the internet service provider, Virgin Media, withdrew its services due to non-payment of bills.

Counsel for 802 Works, which began providing Wi-Fi at Ibrox in 2013, argued it wants the money arrested from Rangers' bank accounts in case the club goes insolvent before the dispute is resolved in court.

He said he believed the legal dispute would not be concluded before the middle of next season and wanted the cash set aside in the meantime.

The lawyer for 802 Works told sheriff Ian Miller: "The company (Rangers) cannot pay this of its own accord as it is operating at a loss. It has to come from somewhere else."

He told the court that Rangers are "entirely reliant on somebody else funding" any payment if the club are told to pay up the £300,000 being sought by the IT firm.

Howver, counsel for Rangers argued that the its financial position is improving, lenders are in place and that there is no prospect of insolvency.

Sheriff Ian Miller will rule on Friday morning whether the cash should be arrested from Rangers while the legal dispute continues.