granite sheep Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Not only Wiggy, Willie has been an absolute disaster as our director offitba. How does someone who was pretty much a walking clusterfuck as our manager, somehow become our director of football- either Milne disnae have a scooby, or he cynically did it to appease the raving fanboys in our support, knowin full well that Miller is a buffoon. He can go on and on about his involvement in our youth setup, and how he's developing AFC's future (which, judging by our performances for the last two seasons looks very likely to be grinding around the arse end of the First Division); but at the end of the day, he well and truly pissed his status as "club legend" up the proverbial wall years ago, his contributions as club captain are a distant memory compared to his many fuckups as a director. Link to comment
K-9 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Not only Wiggy, Willie has been an absolute disaster as our director offitba. How does someone who was pretty much a walking clusterfuck as our manager, somehow become our director of football- either Milne disnae have a scooby, or he cynically did it to appease the raving fanboys in our support, knowin full well that Miller is a buffoon. He can go on and on about his involvement in our youth setup, and how he's developing AFC's future (which, judging by our performances for the last two seasons looks very likely to be grinding around the arse end of the First Division); but at the end of the day, he well and truly pissed his status as "club legend" up the proverbial wall years ago, his contributions as club captain are a distant memory compared to his many fuckups as a director.Willie will always be AFC's greatest player but his appointment on the board has been a complete disaster and has been shown up big time. Link to comment
Pudgie Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Your right...Milne is the problem but I'd hazzard a guess that Milne cares fu*k all about anything other than keeping his head down until the SMG's bid is accepted for Todder's...many have said this is nonsense and he wouldn't have hung around so long...think about this though... The area is coming up in terms of what an appartment would fetch on the market...there's been a fair bit of cash ploughed into the area in the last few years...and not by Milne.... He's a cu*t alright but the property value of an appartment now as a pose to say 10 years ago in that area of town has seen a marked increaseOh Jesus Christ. You can't possibly believe this. Red(hand of Ul)star. You've tried to make this point before and I'm sure me and many have proved beyond reasonable doubt that this just cannot be the case. Open your eyes man! Yes we're rotten. No Milne isn't the man for the job. Yes we need an real hard look at ALL staff at the club. But he is not there for the sake of a few seaton flats! Link to comment
Stoneybloke Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Yes we're rotten. No Milne isn't the man for the job. Yes we need an real hard look at ALL staff at the club. But he is not there for the sake of a few seaton flats!So what is he there for then, can't be much else from the evidence so far. Link to comment
NorthernLights24 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 When is the AGM? Surely a protest against Milne would be a good idea then? Link to comment
a don in oz Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 . But he is not there for the sake of a few seaton flats! Don't ever bother arguing with a conspiracy theorist; be that one that believes the gubmint is polluting our precious bodily fluids or that a chairman has an evil long term plan. Link to comment
zander Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Debt rising,crowds dropping,knocked out cups by lower league opostion, bottom of the league and a shite squad of players. Milnes oversaw it all. Link to comment
zander Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Not only Wiggy, Willie has been an absolute disaster as our director offitba. How does someone who was pretty much a walking clusterfuck as our manager, somehow become our director of football- either Milne disnae have a scooby, or he cynically did it to appease the raving fanboys in our support, knowin full well that Miller is a buffoon. He can go on and on about his involvement in our youth setup, and how he's developing AFC's future (which, judging by our performances for the last two seasons looks very likely to be grinding around the arse end of the First Division); but at the end of the day, he well and truly pissed his status as "club legend" up the proverbial wall years ago, his contributions as club captain are a distant memory compared to his many fuckups as a director. The man can't run a fucking chipper let alone be on a board at a big football club. Link to comment
zander Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Milne leaves, then what? I see NO solution to any of the the problems. It's easy to sit there and blame this and that on Milne, but what the fuck do you propose he should do? NO SOLUTIONS EVER MADE, JUST FOLK SAYING 'GTF MILNE'. Wish there was somebody to step in but their isn't, we've got so far into debt under him were at the point were we actually need him on the board. Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Milne doesn't have to leave the board or sell all his shares and remove the guarantees - he only controls something like 20% of the shares anyway. He could simply step down as Chairman and give the opportunity of running the club to someone else. Someone with enthusiasm and who can inspire enthusiasm in others. Link to comment
Redstar Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Milne leaves, then what? I see NO solution to any of the the problems. It's easy to sit there and blame this and that on Milne, but what the fuck do you propose he should do? NO SOLUTIONS EVER MADE, JUST FOLK SAYING 'GTF MILNE'. Here's a solution...Issue a statement to the BBC (Not just the P&J) as Romanov did publicly stating that AFC are for sale...and the board will listen to offers. As far as I can see all Milne ever does is put on his greety face and say no one will invest...No Shit Sherlock..Not as long as you have anything to do with AFC Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Here's a solution...Issue a statement to the BBC (Not just the P&J) as Romanov did publicly stating that AFC are for sale...and the board will listen to offers. As far as I can see all Milne ever does is put on his greety face and say no one will invest...No Shit Sherlock..Not as long as you have anything to do with AFC How much spare cash would someone need to buy a controlling stake in the club, clear the debt and ensure the new stadium is still delivered (as it has to be now - it's been left too long). About Link to comment
Redstar Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Wish there was somebody to step in but their isn't, we've got so far into debt under him were at the point were we actually need him on the board. Think this was part of his plan...he's got us into such a mess he has become untouchable...what a fu*king mess Link to comment
Redstar Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 How much spare cash would someone need to buy a controlling stake in the club, clear the debt and ensure the new stadium is still delivered (as it has to be now - it's been left too long). About Link to comment
Redstar Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Of course we need a new stadium, keep up ffs Anyway we did all this weeks ago, and you said you'd find some Russian mafioso to spend his roubles on us, how's that coming along, or not quite as easy as you thought? Now now FS...They don't use rubles where I am it's Manat's...I would think a statement from AFC is needed to show comitment that they are willing to listen to offers and Milne is standing down is requied before anybody can think about investing. Please don't flay me alive but why do we need to move right now...I'm quite happy with the location....Is there some HSE issue or something with the current stadium...I'm only asking Link to comment
fatshaft Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Now now FS...They don't use rubles where I am it's Manat's...I would think a statement from AFC is needed to show comitment that they are willing to listen to offers and Milne is standing down is requied before anybody can think about investing. Sorry, pretty sure you said it would be easy to get some Russian oligarch involved, I take it you now admit that there is no-one queing up to buy AFC, just as what's his face found after his radio Scotland appeal last year. Please don't flay me alive but why do we need to move right now...I'm quite happy with the location....Is there some HSE issue or something with the current stadium...I'm only askingMain stand has to go due to UEFA rules and an impending revocation opf fire safety certificate. Not enough room torebuild to sufficient capacity, so yes a move is essential, whether that should have been to Loirston is another matter, but a move out of the existing footprint is imperative. Link to comment
Redstar Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Sorry, pretty sure you said it would be easy to get some Russian oligarch involved, I take it you now admit that there is no-one queing up to buy AFC, just as what's his face found after his radio Scotland appeal last year. Main stand has to go due to UEFA rules and an impending revocation opf fire safety certificate. Not enough room torebuild to sufficient capacity, so yes a move is essential, whether that should have been to Loirston is another matter, but a move out of the existing footprint is imperative. Thanks for the clarification...all though I'm not sure UEFA rules will apply to us if things carry on in the current vain. As before AFC have to make a public statement before anyone will step up to the plate investment wise...I'm pretty sure...and I'm not being synical here...that Mr Milne will not issue a statement to that effect until the title deeds of Todders are in SMG's hands Link to comment
fatshaft Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Thanks for the clarification...all though I'm not sure UEFA rules will apply to us if things carry on in the current vain. As before AFC have to[1] make a public statement before anyone will step up to the plate investment wise...I'm pretty sure...and I'm not being synical here...that Mr Milne will not issue a statement to that effect until the title deeds of Todders are in SMG's hands[2][1] No they don't, any businessman knows that everything is for sale for a price, quite simply no-one wants it, even all those mega rich Russians you promised us would be delighted to get involved. [2] As noted by Pudgie, please drop this conspiracy shit, it just makes you look simple, it's been more than 15 years since Wiggy got involved, his reasons were clearly not to get his hands on a shite bit of land by Seaton. Link to comment
Redmist1903 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 that Mr Milne will not issue a statement to that effect until the title deeds of Todders are in SMG's hands What a fucking load of shite you speak min, let it go. And just to put your mind at rest, if the SMG do end up building houses at Pittodrie it will because they had paid more than any other company was willing to for the place. Link to comment
Redstar Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 What a fucking load of shite you speak min, let it go. And just to put your mind at rest, if the SMG do end up building houses at Pittodrie it will because they had paid more than any other company was willing to for the place. We'll see The amount of anger directed at anyone on here who suggests that Milne is ultimatley only interested in developing the Pittodrie site is quite astounding. Remember.....No-one protests quite as much as a guilty thief. Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Milne leaves, then what? I see NO solution to any of the the problems. It's easy to sit there and blame this and that on Milne, but what the fuck do you propose he should do? NO SOLUTIONS EVER MADE, JUST FOLK SAYING 'GTF MILNE'. Pretty much this. I see no hope for AFC, we are royally fucked. Link to comment
Stoneybloke Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Milne doesn't choose the players to sign, or pick the team, or decide on the tactics. But his judgement on managers appears to be suspect. Obviously his astute business brain isn't suited for this task. Link to comment
Redstar Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Why did he sign Brooner on a three year deal, given that the idea behind his appointment was to stabalise us and that this would likely be his last job? Lack of forward thinking. Solution - have a plan/philosophy and appoint a manager accordingly - if that means gambling on an Adams or a Lomas and not giving the fans a " big name" then so be it. Avoid having the guts of the squad out of contract at the end of every single season - you remove the massive balancing act and you remove the risk of an unbalanced squad. Solution - arrange negotiations earlier and stagger the length of contracts for new arrivals. Why no scouting network, why do we need to solely rely on the contacts of the manager? If you have an ongoing scouting network, we can have an ongoing database of contacts to help whichever manager in charge. A good way of "investing" and helping the manager use the 4th biggest budget in the league. How has the relationship with fans deteriorated to this level? In the last few years we've seen fans openly resenting the players/manager/board/each other. From what I hear efforts are being made to help remedy this - but time will tell. Years upon years of Milne absolutely not recognising or remedying any of these issues is bound to make folk resent him. Any manager who wins a trophy under the current chairman will deserve a knighthood, as much as managers have and are making an arse out this job even the right man will be completely pissing into the wind. Answer to the first question is easy...Milne will have thought a safe pair of hands to keep us in th SPL just long enough for the sale, and subequent purchase by the SMG, of Pittodrie...Milne will then walk...Milne has no interest in AFC as a footballing entity...he doesn't give a sh*t. There will be nothing to look forward to other than SPL survival as long as he is at the helm...anybody who cannot see this is either extremely stupid or very naive Link to comment
super_al Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 Milne leaves, then what? I see NO solution to any of the the problems. It's easy to sit there and blame this and that on Milne, but what the fuck do you propose he should do? NO SOLUTIONS EVER MADE, JUST FOLK SAYING 'GTF MILNE'. Your assuming that none of these problems can't be solved with a little more thought. For example, we continue to waste wages on poor players, so why allow anyone to give Mackie a new contract, re-sign Young or Clark? Why sack Calderwood when we did not have the funds to do so? Why give Broon a 3 year deal? Why give Cove Rangers 3 million to get a piece of land when it will create a strong rival for the club? Lets go back a few years - would you have allowed Billy Dodds to leave and give Utd 750,000? Would you have appointed Alex Miller? The guy is chairman of the football club and yet he has no clue about what a football is! I am not asking for a millionaire to step in just a smart guy who can use his brain. Link to comment
fatshaft Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Answer to the first question is easy...Milne will have thought a safe pair of hands to keep us in th SPL just long enough for the sale, and subequent purchase by the SMG, of Pittodrie...Milne will then walk...Milne has no interest in AFC as a footballing entity...he doesn't give a sh*t. There will be nothing to look forward to other than SPL survival as long as he is at the helm...anybody who cannot see this is either extremely stupid or very naiveOh please just shut up you boring fart. First it was endless GWT posts, now it's the ludicrous 'pittodrie for flats' pish. Go and hae a word we yersel. Link to comment
ollie1903 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Oh please just shut up you boring fart. First it was endless GWT posts, now it's the ludicrous 'pittodrie for flats' pish. Go and hae a word we yersel.Hahahaha Link to comment
Redstar Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Oh please just shut up you boring fart. First it was endless GWT posts, now it's the ludicrous 'pittodrie for flats' pish. Go and hae a word we yersel. The title of the thread should tell you that it's not going to be in praise of your hero Stewart...I'm not the only one who brings this up..why have a go at me?...Do you have a working relationship with Stewart? Link to comment
super_al Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 The title of the thread should tell you that it's not going to be in praise of your hero Stewart...I'm not the only one who brings this up..why have a go at me?...Do you have a working relationship with Stewart? Ok guys, whilst NO ONE can prove or disprove any suggestion that he is interested in the land for building flats, Redstar is not the first person (nor will he be the last) to comment on this. In addition several people believed that Milne and the rest of the Aberdeen board did not try hard enough to buy the land behind the family stand when we had the opportunity many years ago leaving it near impossible to build a second RDS stand (or some alternative). Hence from that point on redeveloping Pitters was a no go. However Milne has looked into rebuilding the Main Stand and completely revamping the stadium suggest that a move away really was plan B. I don't think his is in it for the land. My problem with him is he is an idiot when it comes to footballing decisions. Link to comment
fatshaft Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 The title of the thread should tell you that it's not going to be in praise of your hero Stewart...I'm not the only one who brings this up..why have a go at me?...Do you have a working relationship with Stewart?I think most others have now accepted that this ridiculous theory is so laughable, they don't want to embarass themselves by repeating it any more. Milne's tenure is less and less defensible by the day, but this 'only here for the flats' nonsense has nothing to do with the thread title, his ability as chairman, or his knowledge of football matters, it is simply a gauge with which we can judge the stupidity of some posters who repeat it, obviously at present on the flatsometer scale, you come across as pretty fucking stupid. Link to comment
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