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Funny how a manager with such a firm grasp of the value of a decent #10 could fuck Stewart and so many others up so spectacularly.

And yes that is sarcasm.

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4 minutes ago, strachanmcgheegoal said:

Funny how a manager with such a firm grasp of the value of a decent #10 could fuck Stewart and so many others up so spectacularly.

And yes that is sarcasm.

Do yo7 seriously think if he would have played better there then he wouldn't have been played there?

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Watched some of the Indian super league highlights. Owen Coyle is a manager there and some of the teams are better than us, alarmingly 

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1 hour ago, Millertime said:

Do yo7 seriously think if he would have played better there then he wouldn't have been played there?

No, I seriously think he bought him because he could (as others have said, usually having played well against us, once) without a clue how best to deploy him, who to play him with or in which position he could best complement what we already had.  And he was far from alone in that.

Still think he was a lazy feck with a piss poor attitude but that’s kind of what we pay managers and scouts to suss out for us.

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Kenneth McLean gives away a penalty in first 10 mins for Norwich v Crystal Palace. Impressed by the atmosphere at Selhurst Park - not sure what the capacity is there. 

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16 minutes ago, Don_Corleone said:

Kenneth McLean gives away a penalty in first 10 mins for Norwich v Crystal Palace. Impressed by the atmosphere at Selhurst Park - not sure what the capacity is there. 

Been there a few times and it is always a cracking atmosphere. Selhurst is very similar in size and layout to Pittodirie. But they nearly always have it sold out

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2 hours ago, strachanmcgheegoal said:

No, I seriously think he bought him because he could (as others have said, usually having played well against us, once) without a clue how best to deploy him, who to play him with or in which position he could best complement what we already had.  And he was far from alone in that.

Still think he was a lazy feck with a piss poor attitude but that’s kind of what we pay managers and scouts to suss out for us.

So, to clarify, you think you know better than Derek McInnes?

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Had Stewart been a single lowlight in an otherwise sparkling period of recruitment then no of course not.  However…..

quite symptomatic of latter McInnes in fact.  Switched from “best we could do” to “aye, that’ll do”

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Few beers with Razor this evening

a late bloomer but he’s probably the best drinker out of BoD under 40

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17 hours ago, strachanmcgheegoal said:

No, I seriously think he bought him because he could (as others have said, usually having played well against us, once) without a clue how best to deploy him, who to play him with or in which position he could best complement what we already had.  And he was far from alone in that.

Did exactly the same with Maddison.

The stupid cunt.

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2 hours ago, muttonhumper said:

Did exactly the same with Maddison.

The stupid cunt.

Don’t buy that one. 

maddison was only 18 when he came up here and didn’t like getting tackled. He thought he was better than everyone… he was correct but it was a bad attitude to have. 
 

once Maddison was dropped from the starting 11 then eventually replaced with Christie, Aberdeen were the best I’ve ever seen them. We were absolutely battering teams. 
 

McInnes must have played Maddison on the wing a couple of times, wasn’t exactly doing it every week. He was mainly used as a number 10 when in the team. Quick look and you can see Hayes played 44 games that season and McGinn played 50. They were the top boys 

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45 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

Don’t buy that one. 

maddison was only 18 when he came up here and didn’t like getting tackled. He thought he was better than everyone… he was correct but it was a bad attitude to have. 
 

once Maddison was dropped from the starting 11 then eventually replaced with Christie, Aberdeen were the best I’ve ever seen them. We were absolutely battering teams. 
 

McInnes must have played Maddison on the wing a couple of times, wasn’t exactly doing it every week. He was mainly used as a number 10 when in the team. Quick look and you can see Hayes played 44 games that season and McGinn played 50. They were the top boys 

Spot on min. Especially the myth that McInnes played Maddison on the wing which is just a lazy cliche perpetuated by the clueless.

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16 hours ago, Poodler said:

Few beers with Razor this evening

a late bloomer but he’s probably the best drinker out of BoD under 40

A disgrace to the BoD name today. Bloody dying.

Good laugh yesterday though.

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7 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

Don’t buy that one. 

maddison was only 18 when he came up here and didn’t like getting tackled. He thought he was better than everyone… he was correct but it was a bad attitude to have. 
 

once Maddison was dropped from the starting 11 then eventually replaced with Christie, Aberdeen were the best I’ve ever seen them. We were absolutely battering teams. 
 

McInnes must have played Maddison on the wing a couple of times, wasn’t exactly doing it every week. He was mainly used as a number 10 when in the team. Quick look and you can see Hayes played 44 games that season and McGinn played 50. They were the top boys 

I know that.

It's not for sale. 😛

 

Christie was born the year before Maddison.

I don't recall saying anything about the wing. 

Just referred to him being clueless in how to deploy him.

But for sure he was played there on many occasions.

Certainly as clear as day in the last game he started for us at Ross County about 20 feet away from our hospitality seats along side of the pitch.

 

He was stripped 18 times for us.

Only on 6 ocassions did he start in same team as McGinn & Hayes.

There are your possibilities for him having been deployed in no 10 role.

In his correct and most effective role. That's if he was actually played there on these occasions.

Any other time he started, either Hayes or McGinn did not. So he was 100% played wide in those games.

 

And I know Christie was a far better player for us. Also relevant to the above.

Nobody has stated that more than me.

Though how much of that was due to McInnes failure to deploy Maddison correctly is up for debate.

Or maybe not.

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2 hours ago, muttonhumper said:

I know that.

It's not for sale. 😛

 

Christie was born the year before Maddison.

I don't recall saying anything about the wing. 

Just referred to him being clueless in how to deploy him.

But for sure he was played there on many occasions.

Certainly as clear as day in the last game he started for us at Ross County about 20 feet away from our hospitality seats along side of the pitch.

 

He was stripped 18 times for us.

Only on 6 ocassions did he start in same team as McGinn & Hayes.

There are your possibilities for him having been deployed in no 10 role.

In his correct and most effective role. That's if he was actually played there on these occasions.

Any other time he started, either Hayes or McGinn did not. So he was 100% played wide in those games.

 

And I know Christie was a far better player for us. Also relevant to the above.

Nobody has stated that more than me.

Though how much of that was due to McInnes failure to deploy Maddison correctly is up for debate.

Or maybe not.

You make valid points MH. I guess it is up for debate. 
 

for me madisson just wasn’t ready. Scottish football was maybe even a bit harder than he expected and he couldn’t be arsed. Even before we signed Christie, we were a far better team when Maddison was on the bench. You see him now just breaking back into the Leicester team and wonder if his run of had form was due to thinking he’s made it and doesn’t need to try anymore. He’s a bit of a spice boy like. 
 

so it’s up for debate but I see where you are coming from, so no need to have one. I just don’t think he was mentally strong enough to contribute as well as he could. He was very clearly a very very good player though. He should have gone better no matter where he was deployed. 
 

absolutely unreal to think that in order to squeeze Maddison or Christie in we basically had to drop one of Hayes, mcginn, McLean, shinnie or jack. Now we are watching funso ojo start every week

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4 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

absolutely unreal to think that in order to squeeze Maddison or Christie in we basically had to drop one of Hayes, mcginn, McLean, shinnie or jack. Now we are watching funso ojo start every week

Aye.

This is nae fine. 

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1 hour ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

absolutely unreal to think that in order to squeeze Maddison or Christie in we basically had to drop one of Hayes, mcginn, McLean, shinnie or jack. Now we are watching funso ojo start every week

Sums it all up really

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On 12/29/2021 at 7:27 AM, muttonhumper said:

Did exactly the same with Maddison.

The stupid cunt.

Same thing Leicester did, aye?

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There is a rose tinted glasses and fond memories surrounding James Maddison.It is based around his spectacular winning goal against Rangers and how well he is doing now.He was up and down in a lot of his games for Aberdeen.His misplaced passes were explained away by saying nobody had the extraordinary vision, passing skills and insight and awareness he had, and our players were just not on his level.His legacy is that he is quoted forever as an example of the outstanding young talents you can find in the loan system.We have pursued such players for years now and signed countless duds.

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20 minutes ago, graham said:

There is a rose tinted glasses and fond memories surrounding James Maddison.It is based around his spectacular winning goal against Rangers and how well he is doing now.He was up and down in a lot of his games for Aberdeen.His misplaced passes were explained away by saying nobody had the extraordinary vision, passing skills and insight and awareness he had, and our players were just not on his level.His legacy is that he is quoted forever as an example of the outstanding young talents you can find in the loan system.We have pursued such players for years now and signed countless duds.

Maddison is the most technically gifted player we have had in the last 10 years

It's not even up for debate G-Bomb

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7 minutes ago, Millertime said:

It's not even up for debate G-Bomb

The fact that the pair of you are debating it would suggest otherwise. 

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4 minutes ago, don corleone said:

The fact that the pair of you are debating it would suggest otherwise. 

I'm not debating

I'm stating

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9 minutes ago, Millertime said:

I'm not debating

I'm stating

Yes, stating your opinion in response to another's. That's how debates work. 

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Re:Maddisons misplaced passes

Iirc it was the case the majority of times this happened that his team mates weren't on the same wavelength as him. Clear as day watching him play for us that most of his team mates weren't at the same level he was at.

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Have to agree SR.  He wasn’t the finished article some make out for sure, and hoor of a lightweight for the position, but he wasn’t Gary Macdonald either!

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2 hours ago, don corleone said:

Yes, stating your opinion in response to another's. That's how debates work. 

Only if I reply!

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3 hours ago, Millertime said:

Maddison is the most technically gifted player we have had in the last 10 years

It's not even up for debate G-Bomb

Most technically gifted player we've had since Jess. 

He was streets ahead of everyone else, even in what was a very good team. He probably was a bit too greedy and had an arrogance about him which maybe wouldn't have gone down too well with everyone in the dressing room - but we should have used him more often. I just remember being amazed at how the ball seemed glued to his feet, and that he was always wanting it even in tight situations - so different from the majority of players we see nowadays. 

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26 minutes ago, Don_Corleone said:

Most technically gifted player we've had since Jess. 

He was streets ahead of everyone else, even in what was a very good team. He probably was a bit too greedy and had an arrogance about him which maybe wouldn't have gone down too well with everyone in the dressing room - but we should have used him more often. I just remember being amazed at how the ball seemed glued to his feet, and that he was always wanting it even in tight situations - so different from the majority of players we see nowadays. 

Sorry to burst your bubble bruv,  but Maddison is a better player than Jess and I'm not debating it

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