Dons79 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 hour ago, sooth_stander said: Weird timing To sack a manager one week before the cup final tells you the board didn’t want a Jack Ross cup win to derail their long term plan for Hibs with someone else in mind. The other strange thing was that David Martindale commented “I hope they don’t sack Jack, or I hope Jack doesn’t walk away from this” after the game last night. Almost as if he knew this was coming, whilst I doubt the fans were expecting this. Correct me if I’m wrong here but Ross wasn’t a Ron Gordon appointment, was he? He pre dated him Heard that on the radio last night and immediately thought it was strange martindale said that!.he must have been told by the hibs hierarchy that yesterday was a must win. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 50 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: Mcinnes had a 53% win rate with us Ross has a 49% win rate with Hibs Not exactly a massive gulf in quality there & Mcinnes had the better budget Glass now has a 35% win rate with us (boosted by last couple of wins as he was down at 28% at one stage) & still keeps his job. we can’t exactly lord it over them when at least they have the balls to sack a manager with 49% win rate as soon as they have a bad run. His stats were a fk load better prior to this slump also This season, Glass has a 37.5% win rate. 33.33% if you include all his Aberdeen games. Win on Saturday and it's up to 40% for the season Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dons79 said: Heard that on the radio last night and immediately thought it was strange martindale said that!.he must have been told by the hibs hierarchy that yesterday was a must win. Doubt that he had the heads up from the Hibs board. He is / was a manager under pressure and the Livi fans were signing that Jack would be sacked in the morning Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Is it not more likely that Ross spoke to Martindale about his position? Link to comment
Dons79 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: Doubt that he had the heads up from the Hibs board. He is / was a manager under pressure and the Livi fans were signing that Jack would be sacked in the morning Just thought it strange coming from martindale early in his interview.he did literally say “a hope he doesn’t get sacked in the morning as he’s a good young manager”, was very specific!,doesn’t matter anyway, he’s gone now and I’d expect them to go for Neil now. Link to comment
Dons79 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Just now, aberdeen1970 said: Is it not more likely that Ross spoke to Martindale about his position? That’s what I was thinking, pre drink and chat telling him it was win or bust Link to comment
Guest Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Feel a bit for Jack Ross. Should've been given the cup final as a shot at redemption, if he failed, punt him then. Harsh he won't get to walk them out at Hampden. Fuck knows who they'll get in? Alex Neil if they are ambitious. Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Hibs have had an unbelievable amount of managers, since the turn of the century; McLeish, Sauzee, Williamson, Mowbray, Collins, Pattalinen, Hughes, Calderwood, Fenlon, Butcher, Stubbs, Lennon, Heckingbottom, Ross. There might be more. Go back as far as since Eddie Turnbull and its equally scattergun Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 27 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Is it not more likely that Ross spoke to Martindale about his position? You got the distinct impression from Martindale's post match interview that Ross told him he was done for. Maybe this has been in the bag for a whiley, hence the form going off a cliff. Nae so much the chicken and egg, more the egg and the chicken, you dig? Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Id be surprised if Ross had such a frank discussion before the match. It'll simply be one manager under pressure supporting another manager under pressure and having the Livi fans signing "sacked in the morning" fresh in his mind Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: You got the distinct impression from Martindale's post match interview that Ross told him he was done for. Maybe this has been in the bag for a whiley, hence the form going off a cliff. Nae so much the chicken and egg, more the egg and the chicken, you dig? Aye. Managers talk all the time. They're a much closer knit community than they let on. They've been on a bad run lately no doubt. But his record before that was pretty good and particularly good for a Hibs manager in recent memory. 2 cup finals and a third place finish in the last 12 months. I also suspect there are other reasons rather than just this poor run. Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: Hibs have had an unbelievable amount of managers, since the turn of the century; McLeish, Sauzee, Williamson, Mowbray, Collins, Pattalinen, Hughes, Calderwood, Fenlon, Butcher, Stubbs, Lennon, Heckingbottom, Ross. There might be more. Go back as far as since Eddie Turnbull and its equally scattergun Serious amount of shite as well. McLeish and Mowbray did good jobs at Easter Road. Stubbs won the Scottish Cup but couldnt even get them as far as the play off final when in the Championship for 2 seasons. Collins with a cup too.... Ross and Lennon alright. Everyone else pretty much terrible Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Steve Kean was appointed Head of Youth Academy a few weeks back. Ex Blackburn boss. Seemed an odd move at the time. Maybe the new manager is already in the house? Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: Steve Kean was appointed Head of Youth Academy a few weeks back. Ex Blackburn boss. Seemed an odd move at the time. Maybe the new manager is already in the house? Kean always struck me as a sleekit character when he was at Blackburn Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 35 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Aye. Managers talk all the time. They're a much closer knit community than they let on. They've been on a bad run lately no doubt. But his record before that was pretty good and particularly good for a Hibs manager in recent memory. 2 cup finals and a third place finish in the last 12 months. I also suspect there are other reasons rather than just this poor run. Hibs don't have a female physio do they? Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 If hibs can sack Ross, then Glass has to be in the Lodge or the Mafia, he’s unsackable. Or the hibs management have what Cormack hasn’t. (A set of Balls. ) Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: Hibs don't have a female physio do they? The sister of Aberdeen’s. Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Alex Neil worked under the current Hibs chief exec whilst at Norwich. Maybe nothing in that but will be interesting to see if that’s the way Ron Gordon goes or, if he goes down the USA route. Link to comment
Dundeedon Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Will be Alex Neil and I'd be a bit pissed off if they got him while we're lumbered with Glass Link to comment
thurso Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Dundeedon said: Will be Alex Neil and I'd be a bit pissed off if they got him while we're lumbered with Glass I wouldn’t Link to comment
RED_JOHN Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Ron Gordon and his good friend Dave Cormack are in discussion about the future of Scott Brown at Pittodrie. Gordon wants Brown at Easter Road….watch this space. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 If David Gray wins them another cup next week (already a Hibs hero) then the fans may push for him & the club could well listen as he would be a cheap option on a short contract for remainder of season to see where it goes. Otherwise I think they will go for Goodwin/Davidson if Alex Neil sticks to his (rumoured) guns by staying down south. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Dundeedon said: Will be Alex Neil and I'd be a bit pissed off if they got him while we're lumbered with Glass Aye. Similar. I still get the feeling of inevitability that Glass won’t last long. Link to comment
Studebaker-90 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 8:46 PM, WesthillWanderersFC said: Aye. Similar. I still get the feeling of inevitability that Glass won’t last long. Just get the idea out of your head, he’s going nowhere any time soon. Link to comment
BonnieDon Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Apparently Neil wants to go to England and is interested in the Ipswich job. James McPake has emerged as one of the Favourites. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, BonnieDon said: Apparently Neil wants to go to England and is interested in the Ipswich job. James McPake has emerged as one of the Favourites. Heard tonight that Lennon is to go in till the end of the season Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Just interesting if they appoint someone effectively for two games - us re league position and the LCF obviously. Or whether they basically write those off and go for a more long term roots up solution. Aware I’m giving us a lot of undeserved credit there! Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted December 11, 2021 Author Share Posted December 11, 2021 9 hours ago, Grays Babylon 1875 said: So Hibs will go for Goodwin and Davidson.. at the same time... Lay doon you fucking belter.. ? Do you not know/understand what a / between words in text means? / certainly doesn’t mean & to most non spoon burners Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Just now, Dad said: Seen lewis stevenson greeting about it on the beeb - no wonder tbf. Great prep for the showpiece Ron - arsehole. "That was the hardest bit for us," added the defender. "He is thanking us but it's our fault he has lost his job. We feel like we have let him down. "It's a hard time. Sometimes it's when you are at your angriest. The sense you have let people down is the worst feeling to get over." Something I hope you feel every Saturday at 5pm Link to comment
BitWait Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Lennon would be ideal until end of season , guarantee them a bottom 6 spot. Terrible manager. Link to comment
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