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1 minute ago, ericblack4boss said:

It wouldn't surprise me to hear Mcleish has it after his rambling on radio Scotland last Thursday afternoon, it was painful, and amusing to listen to in equal measure

Alex McLeish has been fucked ever since he left Aberdeen for Motherwell back in 1994. He has done very well to somehow get through the subsequent 27 years.

He's never recovered from leaving our proud club mentally, emotionally, nor physically.

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On 11/14/2021 at 6:35 PM, OddJob said:

Would I be correct in saying that's quite a few of the team from that era passed away from dementia? 

Of the 11 players that won the EC, only 4 are still alive

And of the seven that are dead, four of them died of dementia. None of them were particularly young when they died of it, either in their very late 70s or into their 80s. Bear in mind though that dementia isn't just one disease, it's a whole group of medical conditions caused by abnormal brain changes, although around 70% or so are attributed to Alzheimer's disease.

Doubtful because of their age that you could infer that heading the ball might have caused their dementia.......at that age grouping dementia happens frequently, and in both sexes. It actually affects roughly twice as many women as men (partially because women do tend to live a bit longer than men anyway) and obv there are very few women who played football in that current age group.

The only ones I'd think you might find a link to are ex footballers developing dementia at a very early age (in their 50s and 60s). But it'll need them all to agree to donate their brains for post-mortem, preferably done by specialist neuropathologists as opposed to just general pathologists, before a definite link will be conclusively proved.

 

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4 hours ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Here TC, a question that I have often pondered over. Someone that has dementia, particularly the latter stages, would they actually be aware that something was wrong with them or would they largely be oblivious to their condition?

It isn't even in the latter stages that this becomes a problem. Generally speaking, most will have some insight into things not being right quite early on and especially if they have good family/friends support, they get their diagnosis fairly quickly and even if they don't entirely understand the implications, they accept their diagnosis. ( if/when I ever get diagnosed with a dementia....it's this stage that I will choose to pop a full vial of insulin into a vein and exit the world on my terms rather than risk the misery of letting it progress)

But within a couple of years of diagnosis, things generally progress to the point where the confusion accelerates, you start forgetting even who your close relatives are....the very long term memory remains to an extent and you might believe you are a teenager or a young adult again and won't accept that you aren't even if you are given a mirror to look into. You will become delusional and might suffer hallucinations. Those living alone without care input at this stage will probably become non-compliant with their medication, thus exacerbating the worst of the erratic behaviour symptoms. And if you weren't already, you'll now most probably become doubly incontinent. Denial of anything being wrong either physically or mentally is pretty much guaranteed. Causes medical and nursing staff (and next of kin) no end of problems legally and ethically if there's no power of attorney in place by this point.

The true end stage dementia thankfully doesn't last that long....you will lose your appetite and might even lose your ability to swallow altogether. It's really distressing for families to see this and a lot of them will ask if their relative can be tube fed. Some might even insist but it's a really bad idea. Getting a tube inserted into your nose down into the stomach isn't pleasant even for an adult that understands why they're having it done. It must be terrifying if you have no idea who you are, where you are or why this person is assaulting you by trying to ram a tube up your beak. And even if you get it down, they might pull it up at any time and usually do. Far better at this stage to let nature take its course in hospital with a morphine infusion to keep you pain free and to aid suppression of agitation. 

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1 hour ago, Ten Caat said:

It isn't even in the latter stages that this becomes a problem. Generally speaking, most will have some insight into things not being right quite early on and especially if they have good family/friends support, they get their diagnosis fairly quickly and even if they don't entirely understand the implications, they accept their diagnosis. ( if/when I ever get diagnosed with a dementia....it's this stage that I will choose to pop a full vial of insulin into a vein and exit the world on my terms rather than risk the misery of letting it progress)

But within a couple of years of diagnosis, things generally progress to the point where the confusion accelerates, you start forgetting even who your close relatives are....the very long term memory remains to an extent and you might believe you are a teenager or a young adult again and won't accept that you aren't even if you are given a mirror to look into. You will become delusional and might suffer hallucinations. Those living alone without care input at this stage will probably become non-compliant with their medication, thus exacerbating the worst of the erratic behaviour symptoms. And if you weren't already, you'll now most probably become doubly incontinent. Denial of anything being wrong either physically or mentally is pretty much guaranteed. Causes medical and nursing staff (and next of kin) no end of problems legally and ethically if there's no power of attorney in place by this point.

The true end stage dementia thankfully doesn't last that long....you will lose your appetite and might even lose your ability to swallow altogether. It's really distressing for families to see this and a lot of them will ask if their relative can be tube fed. Some might even insist but it's a really bad idea. Getting a tube inserted into your nose down into the stomach isn't pleasant even for an adult that understands why they're having it done. It must be terrifying if you have no idea who you are, where you are or why this person is assaulting you by trying to ram a tube up your beak. And even if you get it down, they might pull it up at any time and usually do. Far better at this stage to let nature take its course in hospital with a morphine infusion to keep you pain free and to aid suppression of agitation. 

Fuck’s sake, we’re doomed. 
 

Spare one of those vials for me as well TC

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