Arabian Knight Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, Bluto10 said: was fine thanks. some good food & beer in the city. you? rattled ? yer stocks lower thin iver ye clingy whimperin wee cunt..wha ye ganna run tae nxt? buc? 1 Link to comment
CCB III Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 5 hours ago, NEM said: Based on what? Wishful thinking? The green lobby aren’t going to disappear with independence And they shouldn't. The reality is though, they aren't very popular. Most people, anecdotally or analytically, view them as a fringe party. Again, as someone who votes for them, I can't see a way they have any meaningful power in an independent Scotland. They've got more power now than they would if we got Indy. Link to comment
Edwin Starr Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 9 hours ago, patrick bateman said: Funny how you've popped up on a football forum. Just as a new referendum campaign is launched. You don't like to be truthful about the shortcomings of the government you claim to not support the party of government whilst calling the leader queen Nicola. You call people pejorative terms. You are just a bit of a dick really. But you try to dress up your hatred and bigotry with anecdotal tales of English friends and family and so on. Live under a bridge much these days. Thanks for that reply . Link to comment
caledonia Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 13 hours ago, For Fecks Sake said: As for criticising the Tories, take your pick from a liar and cunt of a PM and his cabinet, PPE scandal, track and trace debacle, appalling immigration policy, Brexit, cash for honours, sleaze etc. Where is your list of criticism of the SNP? I don't vote SNP because of many things including giving millions to the Scottish press who spend all their time pulling Scotland/SNPdown Another reason is the freaks who are pushing Gender Ideologies Lack of movement on at least 5 mandates for independence We need to be more hardline imo But as said above no point going over and over the same shit to people who are set in their ways so i am out till something new happens More chance going round doors being an activist Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 14 hours ago, milne_afc said: In the case of Independence, SNP cease to exist. Oil will outlast them. Hmmm, their main policy certainly has gone but I don't see them just disbanding. I've always thought that they'll brand themselves as the true left wing party successors to what Labour used to be but hasn't since the days of Neil Kinnock and beyond....even Corbyn couldn't get them back to those days. However they might in doing so end up suffering what essentially cost Kinnock his chance to be PM by allowing the more radical left wingers nearly a free rein to do as they like in local government. I can't see the Scottish Tories ever governing an independent Scotland but I'd expect Scottish Labour to win power within 10 years Link to comment
Edwin Starr Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 SNPs Sheppard is seeking a crowd funder for the results of a secret poll by that do what they like London government on the results of a secret union polling case which they stole tax payers money to fund it . They've been hiding the results for a few years now . Like they do other stuff. I'm digging deep for this one.? Link to comment
NEM Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, Edwin Starr said: SNPs Sheppard is seeking a crowd funder for the results of a secret poll by that do what they like London government on the results of a secret union polling case which they stole tax payers money to fund it . They've been hiding the results for a few years now . Like they do other stuff. I'm digging deep for this one.? Thomas Tusser had it spot on ? Link to comment
elephantstone78 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, NEM said: Thomas Tusser had it spot on ? Good as Chelsea manager. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 11 hours ago, Simply Red said: Thats what i thought when the covid thread started on here. Relentless, 24/7, the same shit, round and round in circles. The same folk saying the same stuff. I quite enjoyed that Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 12 hours ago, Simply Red said: Thats what i thought when the covid thread started on here. Relentless, 24/7, the same shit, round and round in circles. The same folk saying the same stuff. zactly plolitics LOL Link to comment
Edwin Starr Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 15 hours ago, Redforever86 said: You signed up in 2019 and 99% of your posts are on this topic in the last 48 hours. Aye Steve is 100% yoon and nearly all his posts are anti SNP. He is a 100% Torie but won't admit to it Link to comment
chief_wiggum Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 16 hours ago, patrick bateman said: Funny how you've popped up on a football forum. Just as a new referendum campaign is launched. Says the guy who's "Just popped up on a football forum just as a new referendum campaign is launched" 1 Link to comment
Edwin Starr Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, chief_wiggum said: Says the guy who's "Just popped up on a football forum just as a new referendum campaign is launched" Away from politics he is a really nice guy. Yeah I thought that was a bit unfair. Link to comment
Parklife Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Edwin Starr said: Away from politics he is a really nice guy. Yeah I thought that was a bit unfair. So away from everything he stands for and believes in, he's a good guy? Link to comment
Edwin Starr Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Parklife said: So away from everything he stands for and believes in, he's a good guy? I think so but I could be wrong . I'd rather give him the benefit of the doot.. He does start loads of political posts on another board under a different name . Link to comment
BitWait Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 " bankrupt within 5 years of gaining independence " the Irishmen told me. I wonder where we would get our bailout from ? England - no , you've made your bed and can lie in it. EU , well mmm you're not a full member yet , the Spanish keep blocking you , so no. America ? Yes , but didn't an American put money into a Scottish football club and it doesn't seem to be going well so far. Just fishing guys. Link to comment
The Cockney Don Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 There'll probably be another vote in two years time, and i reckon Yes will win it by a small margin. Hope things won't go tits up for Scotland. ? Link to comment
Jigsaw666 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 On 6/19/2022 at 1:02 PM, Betty Swallicks said: tbh voting SNP in a general election is pretty fucking pointless if your then going to moan about The Tories for 4 years. SNP is the only sensible thing to vote for in a general election if you live in Scotland. Political parties care only about winning elections and it is a well worn phrase that to win a general election you "need to win middle England" (wherever the fuck that actually is). Therefore that's what the main national parties target; pleasing "middle England". SNP whether you want independence or not only give a fuck about getting stuff for Scotland. I live in Scotland so that gets my vote. 1 Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 the only worthwhile vote is an abstention politics lol 1 Link to comment
maryhilldon Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bluto10 said: politics lol You posted that yesterday. And the day before. And the day before that. Link to comment
Don Fonte Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, maryhilldon said: You posted that yesterday. And the day before. And the day before that. Politics. Lol. 1 Link to comment
BitWait Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 I think independence is inevitable in indeyref 2. A lot of older people who voted no , will not be voting this time round being replaced by younger voters who have grown up with the SNP and will probably vote yes. I will vote no. Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, BitWait said: I think independence is inevitable in indeyref 2. A lot of older people who voted no , will not be voting this time round being replaced by younger voters who have grown up with the SNP and will probably vote yes. I will vote no. So aren't you worried about your pension, if the young folk don't get indy and leave Scotland instead? Link to comment
maryhilldon Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 A fair % of Scots will be lucky to see pension age once it goes up to about 70 in 20 years time. I wouldn't be putting all my eggs in that basket. Think about your kids and grandkids futures in an independent Scotland and stop being a selfish cunt. 3 Link to comment
Jocky Balboa Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Nothing much has changed here, it's just virtue signalling (albeit very expensive) from the SNP leadership. The devil is in the detail, because Sturgeon has reiterated time and again that she is going the Section 30 order route. Rational thinking people generally agree that Johnson - and indeed any UK PM - will not acquiesce to this (Cameron only agreed because he thought it would be a walkover AND kill the issue stone dead indefinitely) as they don't want to go down in history as the leader who lost the UK. No, what will happen, is that the Murrell Mafia will go cap in hand, then when it is inevitably refused outright, another grievance campaign will begin and yet another yellow-gilded Krankie Karrot (AKA "jist wan mair mandate, pretty please?!") dangled, just in time for the Westminster election in 2024... which will return another Tory PM, followed by another in 2029, barring a miracle. Conversely, I think there is a very real chance of a referendum being granted on a United Ireland before 2030 and will bet anything that the establishment won't fight anywhere near as hard to keep NI in the UK as they will Scotland. Discerning minds may make of this disparity what they will. 2 Link to comment
BitWait Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Redforever86 said: So aren't you worried about your pension, if the young folk don't get indy and leave Scotland instead? Yes , a lot of businesses will leave also. Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, BitWait said: Yes , a lot of businesses will leave also. That's true. If we don't get Indy doubt everyone will hang around to get dragged down by the English. 2 Link to comment
maryhilldon Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, Redforever86 said: That's true. If we don't get Indy doubt everyone will hang around to get dragged down by the English. Did all the youngsters and businesses leave after the 2014 ref? Not even sure what point you're trying to make. 1 Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, maryhilldon said: Did all the youngsters and businesses leave after the 2014 ref? Not even sure what point you're trying to make. Situation has changed massively now we aren't in the EU and work from home is a very real possibility for a lot of higher earners. 2 Link to comment
maryhilldon Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Redforever86 said: Situation has changed massively now we aren't in the EU So even less chance of youngsters moving away? Link to comment
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