Scottish Independence Referendum 2

[BitWait]

35 minutes ago, Dons79 said:

https://apple.news/AQrmYMCBwRZ-AUerNZabA8w
 

il just leave this here for you to peruse, a wee unionist policy seen as you don’t know any

Wow , the teachers and nurses are going on strike and the train workers are on strike in Scotland. This is not the unionist policies you promised , this is the news. Independence would just add to these ongoing worldwide problems not solve them. 

[Hagi's pubic hair]

10 minutes ago, BitWait said:

and general opinion in Eire is that Scots are crazy to go for independence. 

I smell shite. I lived there for a few years.

[Joe pike]

Let’s all get behind Nicola.

[BitWait]

21 minutes ago, CCB III said:

Seriously? That's your argument? 
 

'We can't go independent because the future is unpredictable

Yes , looks a bit ropey to me and better to stay with what we know even if it's shite. But I am old and younger generation will decide what's best. I am emigrating abroad in next few years ( always been the plan ) so only real concern is that my pension will be paid and the way these numpties at the SNP spend and in the future will borrow money is alarming me.

[Joe pike]

Only trains running this week will be in the Central belt.None in the NE.
At least this bias would’nt happen if the SNP were in charge?

[CCB III]

1 minute ago, Joe pike said:

Only trains running this week will be in the Central belt.None in the NE.
At least this bias would’nt happen if the SNP were in charge?

What's that got to do with the government? Genuinely? 
 

Strike action had been planned long before the rail was nationalised. 
 

And again; 

 

The best way to counter any dislike you have for NS or the SNP is to vote for independence. 

[Joe pike]

21 minutes ago, Joe pike said:

Let’s all get behind Nicola.

 

1 minute ago, CCB III said:

What's that got to do with the government? Genuinely? 
 

Strike action had been planned long before the rail was nationalised. 
 

And again; 

 

The best way to counter any dislike you have for NS or the SNP is to vote for independence. 

 

[Dons79]

35 minutes ago, BitWait said:

There is no evidence of future costs to do anything , only estimates and they can go way over ( see ferries ) or be delivered on time within budget , but bankruptcy within 5 years sounds about right to me. An Irish man told me this at work one day as they had been through it and general opinion in Eire is that Scots are crazy to go for independence. 

Oh well if you put like that then the evidence is insurmountable, where’s your proof of bankruptcy as every single nation that has went independent hasn’t went bankrupt?, even tiny tiny countries like Luxembourg which has no oil, minerals, decent stuff to sell within there country?you heard from Irish man and your putting all your belief in that, fuck the thoughts on the 5.5 million Scots thoughts or the rest of the Irish, just 1 Irish dude, am converted, who is this Herodotus of which you speak?. 
did the wee Irish fellow look like this?

You sound like a hun, same hun rhetoric 

 

[BitWait]

No proof , I just think that. The Irish man was a Catholic from the South 

[Parklife]

1 hour ago, BitWait said:

There is no evidence of future costs to do anything , only estimates and they can go way over ( see ferries ) or be delivered on time within budget , but bankruptcy within 5 years sounds about right to me. An Irish man told me this at work one day as they had been through it and general opinion in Eire is that Scots are crazy to go for independence. 

Absolute noncesense

[BitWait]

Hey 79 , do you know where Eire is ? 

[Dons79]

Of course I do, Southern Ireland, I stayed in portaferry(north)for years with my cousin, strange that I hadn’t heard of this position the whole of Eire take as I was down several times.have you stayed in Ireland?.il bet you haven’t, just spoke with one single Irish person and you have formulated your opinion on that.magic

13 minutes ago, BitWait said:

Hey 79 , do you know where Eire is ? 

 

[Torry Tosser]

Chill out nae point worrying till 2039.?

 

[BitWait]

1 hour ago, CCB III said:

It's not a business, it's an as and when you need it service provided by the taxpayer. It's not for profit. You've fallen right into the trap. 
 

It needs whatever money it needs. 
 

Every nation borrows money. Every single nation. 

And an independent Scotland would borrow more at a higher rate than anybody else to keep this ideal alive hence my initial statement " bankrupt within 5 years of independence"

[BitWait]

14 minutes ago, Dons79 said:

Of course I do, Southern Ireland, I stayed in portaferry(north)for years with my cousin, strange that I hadn’t heard of this position the whole of Eire take as I was down several times.have you stayed in Ireland?.il bet you haven’t, just spoke with one single Irish person and you have formulated your opinion on that.magic

 

Never been to Ireland North or South but worked with quite a few Irish guys in Scotland and that's what they were saying

[CCB III]

5 minutes ago, BitWait said:

And an independent Scotland would borrow more at a higher rate than anybody else to keep this ideal alive hence my initial statement " bankrupt within 5 years of independence"

Socialised healthcare isn't an ideal. Available in a fair few other European nations. 

[Edwin Starr]

10 minutes ago, BitWait said:

And an independent Scotland would borrow more at a higher rate than anybody else to keep this ideal alive hence my initial statement " bankrupt within 5 years of independence"

Goodness me .?

[Dons79]

8 minutes ago, BitWait said:

Never been to Ireland North or South but worked with quite a few Irish guys in Scotland and that's what they were saying

Marvellous 

[Joe pike]

22 minutes ago, Dons79 said:

Of course I do, Southern Ireland, I stayed in portaferry(north)for years with my cousin, strange that I hadn’t heard of this position the whole of Eire take as I was down several times.have you stayed in Ireland?.il bet you haven’t, just spoke with one single Irish person and you have formulated your opinion on that.magic

 

We could flog them a few cheap ferries.

[Edwin Starr]

Has anyone seen Murdo Fraser's interview on GB news I never watch it but seemingly it's a great advert for independence.

 

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[elephantstone78]

38 minutes ago, BitWait said:

And an independent Scotland would borrow more at a higher rate than anybody else to keep this ideal alive hence my initial statement " bankrupt within 5 years of independence"

Poorer I can definitely believe. 
bankrupt is nonsensical. 

[Torry Tosser]

I did a job for a week in Kildare.

They shag their sisters there,and brag aboot it.?

[Edwin Starr]

4 minutes ago, elephantstone78 said:

Poorer I can definitely believe. 
bankrupt is nonsensical. 

Not what the bank of England boss Carney said . He would know for sure ?

 

 

[caledonia]

41 minutes ago, BitWait said:

And an independent Scotland would borrow more at a higher rate than anybody else to keep this ideal alive hence my initial statement " bankrupt within 5 years of independence"

Hard to win an argument with a smart person but its damn near impossible to win one with a stupid person.

[For Fecks Sake]

1 hour ago, Sooper-hanz said:

In the North East

Not entirely correct ?

[Dons79]

13 minutes ago, Roberto said:

If Independence meant you could no longer use cash and it was to be only contactless/card payments, would you move to England, Caledonia?

You do realise it was the Scot’s who invented the Bank of England?

William Paterson 

[caledonia]

43 minutes ago, Joe pike said:

We could flog them a few cheap ferries.

We cant get independence because two ferries were over budget.

Yet its fine to stay in a union that gave millions to a ferry company without boats.

unionist argument 101

[BitWait]

27 minutes ago, caledonia said:

Hard to win an argument with a smart person but its damn near impossible to win one with a stupid person.

At the last referendum I noticed a big intellectual divide between those who admitted voting yes and those who voted no.

[caledonia]

1 hour ago, BitWait said:

Never been to Ireland North or South but worked with quite a few Irish guys in Scotland and that's what they were saying

Bloomberg says otherwise

https://twitter.com/jimgibs0n/status/1189669388850487296?s=20&t=lscLdUFwMFou_NW2CNN-Cg

[Guest milne_afc]

3 minutes ago, BitWait said:

At the last referendum I noticed a big intellectual divide between those who admitted voting yes and those who voted no.

And we’re grateful for the evidence you’re providing.