Redforever86 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Schapenneuker said: From the second I first saw Ferguson I believed that there was a 10+ goal a season (excluding penalties) there. He's got a great shot on him and he's excellent in the air in the opposition box. I honestly thought that with the right coaching and playing style, we could have another Billy Stark on our hands. And then bizarrely, we started using him as a holding midfielder. He became the man that the defence pass the ball to in our own half before he passes it back to them and then they pass it to each other before passing it to Ferguson who passes it back to them. What a fucking waste. I still believe that there's a 10+ goal a season player there, but not for us. I do also believe that when he's gone, we'll miss him. His shooting is pish, only his pens and in the air is he good. Even his free kicks have been crap lately. There’s a great player in there somewhere hopefully Goodwin can help him fulfil his potential. Link to comment
jamiesd Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Redforever86 said: His shooting is pish, only his pens and in the air is he good. Even his free kicks have been crap lately. There’s a great player in there somewhere hopefully Goodwin can help him fulfil his move away. 1 Link to comment
Tord31 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Media reporting today that we are happy with £2M up front for Ferguson, and that four clubs are in for him. Millwall was realistic on the £££ but Ferguson knocked them back in favour of the other four who are all abroad apparently Link to comment
slippers Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tord31 said: Media reporting today that we are happy with £2M up front for Ferguson, and that four clubs are in for him. Millwall was realistic on the £££ but Ferguson knocked them back in favour of the other four who are all abroad apparently What a terrible deal that would be for our best player. Im not expecting him to go for more than Ramsay but he should definitely be going for more than McKenna did. 2m upfront was what Watford offered last season was it not and the club dismissed it as a joke offer which it was. Surely to fuck we are asking for somewhere between 3-4m upfront? Link to comment
patrick bateman Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Some of the valuations of Ferguson vastly over rate what he is as a player. Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Ferguson has been a sleekit hoor trying to manoeuvre his exit, what do you expect from a Hun cunt, with a father like he has, and the ex sleekit bastard who was manager Link to comment
pocrawred Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 I'd be happy if we sell him for £2million Link to comment
thurso Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, patrick bateman said: Some of the valuations of Ferguson vastly over rate what he is as a player. Some people will put a higher valuation than £2 million on him because he is better than cosgrove, he’s better than mckenna and he’s better than other players who left Scotland for teams down south at about the same age as he is now for more than that. He is also a current Scotland international in a position where Scotland have a lot of very good players so that should make him more expensive to. Others will say he’s not worth it because he’s a hun who’s dad is an arse piece Link to comment
BaaBaaRedSheep Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 We really require to sell within this window, instead of holding out hoping for a higher bid which will NOT come in. Of the recent high value sales from Pittodrie McKenna was possibly too low, Cosgrove was downright fortunate and Ramsay was about right. Regarding Ferguson if we get £2m + a few add ons we'll be doing well. He's a decent player, not a great player and folk throwing up that he is a Scottish International doesn't wash with me. Gary Kenneth played for Scotland FFS. 1 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, thurso said: Some people will put a higher valuation than £2 million on him because he is better than cosgrove, he’s better than mckenna and he’s better than other players who left Scotland for teams down south at about the same age as he is now for more than that. He is also a current Scotland international in a position where Scotland have a lot of very good players so that should make him more expensive to. Others will say he’s not worth it because he’s a hun who’s dad is an arse piece Why has no one bid over £2m for him then in the last 12 months since he handed in his transfer request? Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 minute ago, thurso said: I have no idea I don’t know the ins and outs of it but I thought the Italian team did but wanted him on loan and only pay for a permanent move Iv they avoided relegation. Other teams like Millwall are probably chancing their hand knowing he handed in a transfer request but who the hell would want to go their anyway McKenna handed in a transfer request yet we got close to £3m up front for him. Link to comment
thurso Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 minute ago, aberdeen1970 said: Why has no one bid over £2m for him then in the last 12 months since he handed in his transfer request? I have no idea I don’t know the ins and outs of it but I thought the Italian team did but wanted him on loan and only pay for a permanent move Iv they avoided relegation. Other teams like Millwall are probably chancing their hand knowing he handed in a transfer request but who the hell would want to go their anyway Link to comment
patrick bateman Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 34 minutes ago, thurso said: Some people will put a higher valuation than £2 million on him because he is better than cosgrove, he’s better than mckenna and he’s better than other players who left Scotland for teams down south at about the same age as he is now for more than that. He is also a current Scotland international in a position where Scotland have a lot of very good players so that should make him more expensive to. Others will say he’s not worth it because he’s a hun who’s dad is an arse piece So comparing him to players not in his position. I don't see anything he does that elevates him above bang average. For a player worth as much as some of our support believe, I'd expect him to run games, take them by the scruff of the neck. I don't see him doing that. 2 1 Link to comment
thurso Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 42 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: McKenna handed in a transfer request yet we got close to £3m up front for him. Which was half of the shit loan deal with option to buy that was supposedly offered before the transfer request went in Link to comment
thurso Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, patrick bateman said: So comparing him to players not in his position. I don't see anything he does that elevates him above bang average. For a player worth as much as some of our support believe, I'd expect him to run games, take them by the scruff of the neck. I don't see him doing that. Could say that about other Scottish players but they still went for more Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 23 minutes ago, thurso said: Which was half of the shit loan deal with option to buy that was supposedly offered before the transfer request went in But still twice as much as the offers we are allegedly getting for Ferguson. I think if we get offered anything over £2m we'll bite Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said: Why has no one bid over £2m for him then in the last 12 months since he handed in his transfer request? Because his agent has probably told any clubs interested that they’ll get him on cheap because of his ‘unsettled’ position. Leaving Ferguson & his agent to receive a bigger signing on fee. imo Link to comment
Proud Dandy Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Anything less than £2m and he stays until the end of his contract, increasing by £0.5m every time his agent mouths off to the media. 1 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 2 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: Because his agent has probably told any clubs interested that they’ll get him on cheap because of his ‘unsettled’ position. Leaving Ferguson & his agent to receive a bigger signing on fee. imo I think central midfielders like Ferguson are ten a penny down in England. Whereas a left footed centre back like McKenna or a teenage attacking right back with high assist stats like Ramsay are a rarer breed hence folk are more willing to pay more. Link to comment
patrick bateman Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 3 hours ago, thurso said: Could say that about other Scottish players but they still went for more Examples please Who have gone for more than 2m Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Just now, patrick bateman said: Examples please Who have gone for more than 2m Don't get him started with his John McGinn comparison again Link to comment
patrick bateman Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Just now, aberdeen1970 said: Don't get him started with his John McGinn comparison again Mcginn and Ferguson Fuck off. Mcginn is a pressing machine much required in modern football. Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, patrick bateman said: Mcginn and Ferguson Fuck off. Mcginn is a pressing machine much required in modern football. You don't have much clue about the art of football and what is actually required to form a balanced side do you? I have never known John McGinn being referred to as an iron before. #EveryDayIsASchoolDay Link to comment
thurso Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 55 minutes ago, patrick bateman said: Mcginn and Ferguson Fuck off. Mcginn is a pressing machine much required in modern football. Did McGinn stand out a mile when he was at Hibs. Not when I watched him. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, thurso said: Did McGinn stand out a mile when he was at Hibs. Not when I watched him. Thing is though Thurso, not every player improves at the same rate at the same age for a defined number of years. Some do. Some come on the scene pretty much ready made and don't improve that much. Others stall and don't progress, in many cases regress after an initial good spell. Clubs will be looking at Ferguson and thinking what is this guy's ceiling? And does that ceiling justify shelling out the best part of £3m for him? I think the current sentiment amongst interested parties seems to be that there's some doubt about whether he'd be a good investment for that kinda money 2 Link to comment
slippers Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 31 minutes ago, thurso said: Did McGinn stand out a mile when he was at Hibs. Not when I watched him. Agree Thurso. I know it’s easy to jump on the bandwagon now he’s the player he is but he was hardly ripping up trees at hibs. If I could be bothered to look I’m sure quite a lot of people on here probably didn’t rate him at time of transfer. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, slippers said: Agree Thurso. I know it’s easy to jump on the bandwagon now he’s the player he is but he was hardly ripping up trees at hibs. If I could be bothered to look I’m sure quite a lot of people on here probably didn’t rate him at time of transfer. All the comments were about Shinnie always having him in his back pocket Link to comment
shut up meg Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 34 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: All the comments were about Shinnie always having him in his back pocket Yep, whenever we played hibs, the majority of times, Shinnie would steamroll over McGinn. At the time, I never saw McGinn as an EPL player, never mind a top 6 English club player, fair play to the lad. Link to comment
patrick bateman Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 hour ago, thurso said: Did McGinn stand out a mile when he was at Hibs. Not when I watched him. Maybe you didn't rate him but he was nominated for player of the year. So it's fairly obvious he was rated by some. But even then the fee was 2.5m or thereabouts. Same ballpark as being discussed for Ferguson. I just don't see a comparative player from Scotland going for the money people talk about us wanting. I think he's easily replaceable. Take the money plus add ons and run. The club probably feel the same but cos him and his agent have acted the maggot... Link to comment
patrick bateman Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said: You don't have much clue about the art of football and what is actually required to form a balanced side do you? I have never known John McGinn being referred to as an iron before. #EveryDayIsASchoolDay Don't give up the day job. Link to comment
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