maryhilldon Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/19/2021 at 10:56 PM, Wester Hailes Skins said: Dunno. I only really think about the honours I've seen us win in person. As an adult. Which is 3 Scottish Cups.??? As an adult, my 23 year old son has seen the dons lift a trophy but not Hearts. You seem to think you're personal experience is some kind of metric for sucess. A good chunk of folk on here are old enough to remember the dons winning titles and European trophies, who gives a fuck about how many cups you've seen Hearts win, it's irrelevant 2 Link to comment
Wester Hailes Skins Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 5 hours ago, maryhilldon said: As an adult, my 23 year old son has seen the dons lift a trophy but not Hearts. You seem to think you're personal experience is some kind of metric for sucess. A good chunk of folk on here are old enough to remember the dons winning titles and European trophies, who gives a fuck about how many cups you've seen Hearts win, it's irrelevant YOUR personal experience is a metric of success. It's a measure unless you feel 'seeing' Aberdeen win a trophy as a 6 year old is worth crowing about. You've won no major honours in 3 decades, except the wee sponsors cup. And stories of Gothenburg are getting a bit long in the tooth. You'd need to be late 50s to have seen that as an adult. Don't think that's the average age on here so you've a generation growing up who've seen next to no parades down Union Street. You're either happy with two LCs in 30 years or you're not. If not, why are you trying to defend it to me? Personally I'm not happy with 3 Scottish Cups in 25 years. We should be winning more. And I've said I'd like a league where all of Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs, Utd are winning more. Celtic's run of trebles was embarrassing. I get the Aberdeen vs Hearts debate but recent experience is hardly one of us being out muscled in either honours or head to heads. You mention relegations but one was a points deduction and one was a partly complete season. (Unlike Utd and Hibs relegations. Who then both took years to come back up.) I don't rate our manager but still expect a season ahead every bit comparable to Aberdeen or Hibs. Again I look forward to our first fixture. 1 1 2 Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: You mention relegations but one was a points deduction and one was a partly complete season. (Unlike Utd and Hibs relegations. Who then both took years to come back up.) One season you got a point deduction for cheating. The “partly” complete season was 80% done, you’d won 4 out of 30 games and were sitting 4 points adrift at the bottom. Both were absolutely deserved. 5 Link to comment
Wester Hailes Skins Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Andy_123 said: One season you got a point deduction for cheating. The “partly” complete season was 80% done, you’d won 4 out of 30 games and were sitting 4 points adrift at the bottom. Both were absolutely deserved. As was your own relegation that you body swerved over Falkirk's stadium. Link to comment
1983 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: As was your own relegation that you body swerved over Falkirk's stadium. Maybe the powers-that-be felt we were too big a club to go down? 1 Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: As was your own relegation that you body swerved over Falkirk's stadium. "Your own relegation" ? We've never been relegated. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 The Falkirk who knew the (damn stupid) rules about seating before the season started you mean? Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: As was your own relegation that you body swerved over Falkirk's stadium. Haha! Do you read the weegie press? Keep repeating the same lie and it becomes a fact eh. Falkirks stadium saved us from relegation and rangers are the same team. Both factually incorrect. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Fine. But for the record we’ve got more combs than them. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 minute ago, strachanmcgheegoal said: Fine. But for the record we’ve got more combs than them. hearts have more hair though. Its all about the number of hairs...... and the Tennents Sixes...... and how many died in the World Wars......... and rangers. 1 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: YOUR personal experience is a metric of success. It's a measure unless you feel 'seeing' Aberdeen win a trophy as a 6 year old is worth crowing about. You've won no major honours in 3 decades, except the wee sponsors cup. And stories of Gothenburg are getting a bit long in the tooth. You'd need to be late 50s to have seen that as an adult. Don't think that's the average age on here so you've a generation growing up who've seen next to no parades down Union Street. You're either happy with two LCs in 30 years or you're not. If not, why are you trying to defend it to me? Personally I'm not happy with 3 Scottish Cups in 25 years. We should be winning more. And I've said I'd like a league where all of Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs, Utd are winning more. Celtic's run of trebles was embarrassing. I get the Aberdeen vs Hearts debate but recent experience is hardly one of us being out muscled in either honours or head to heads. You mention relegations but one was a points deduction and one was a partly complete season. (Unlike Utd and Hibs relegations. Who then both took years to come back up.) I don't rate our manager but still expect a season ahead every bit comparable to Aberdeen or Hibs. Again I look forward to our first fixture. ? as if you wouldn’t include ALL Hearts cups in your lifetime if there was more. You wouldn’t exclude some just because you were 6 years old ? yous went 36 years in a row (maybe more) before yous won those ‘3 cups in your adult life’ ? Hibs even had a song about your cupless run ? that shows how shite you were Perfect example of twisting shite to suit Adult life ? ironically childish perspective Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: ? as if you wouldn’t include ALL Hearts cups in your lifetime if there was more. You wouldn’t exclude some just because you were 6 years old ? I've been blootered at a couple of ours and got hit by a brick in 89 so at least 3 are a bit vague, should I write them off too WHS? I vividly remember 86 tho. 2 Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Betty Swallicks said: I've been blootered at a couple of ours and got hit by a brick in 89 so at least 3 are a bit vague, should I write them off too WHS? I vividly remember 86 tho. Billy Stark with the finest diving header you're ever likely to see. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Betty Swallicks said: I've been blootered at a couple of ours and got hit by a brick in 89 so at least 3 are a bit vague, should I write them off too WHS? I vividly remember 86 tho. Ah 86 yes I believe Hearts had gone 20 years without a trophy that year. They thought they were going to do the double ? alas no. They had to wait another 16 years for a cup Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 40 minutes ago, dazzy_deff said: Billy Stark with the finest diving header you're ever likely to see. A Peter Weir masterclass. An absolute breeze of a victory. Link to comment
Dons79 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: As was your own relegation that you body swerved over Falkirk's stadium. Not true though is it because everybody knew there was no relegation that year if Falkirk were to be in the promotion spot. so no rules were all to see before a ball was kicked that season Never relegated.all that time, not once.proper club we are, yous are just shite. Period Link to comment
afc_blockhead Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: As was your own relegation that you body swerved over Falkirk's stadium. You know this isn't true, which makes it a particularly shit comeback. You had been the worst team over the past 18 months in the top league when you got relegated, deserved. A typical Hearts fan, acting the big man who (thinks they) support a big club just before they fuck it all up again!? You want to control the metrics to try make out Hearts are even close to Aberdeen, how about the fact that out with 2 trophies won during the Lithuanian money laundering years you have won 1 trophy since 1960... 1. You got relegated 3 times in 5 seasons in the late 70s , twice in the last 5 seasons. Relegation is the big event you have witnessed more than any other ? Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I think Skins has a grudging respect for Aberdeen otherwise he wouldn't be here. But having more relegations than trophies in his lifetime makes this one a difficult argument for him to win. 2 Link to comment
afc_blockhead Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: I think Skins has a grudging respect for Aberdeen otherwise he wouldn't be here. But having more relegations than trophies in his lifetime makes this one a difficult argument for him to win. Or an inferiority complex. Either way he knows the truth about his small team. Link to comment
maryhilldon Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: Personally I'm not happy with 3 Scottish Cups in 25 years. 3 cups in 60 years isn't it? ? 3 Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Dons79 said: Not true though is it because everybody knew there was no relegation that year if Falkirk were to be in the promotion spot. so no rules were all to see before a ball was kicked that season Never relegated.all that time, not once.proper club we are, yous are just shite. Period Regardless on whether it was Falkirk or a.n.other team that did have the facilities required at the time, Aberdeen would have went into a 3 way round robin play-off to decide the worst team to play in the daddy league. We were not saved from relegation, we were relieved of having to play in the round-robin games. 3 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: Regardless on whether it was Falkirk or a.n.other team that did have the facilities required at the time, Aberdeen would have went into a 3 way round robin play-off to decide the worst team to play in the daddy league. We were not saved from relegation, we were relieved of having to play in the round-robin games. Aye, it would have been a play off. Wouldn't have fancied us that year much , we were fucking terrible. Worst Aberdeen team I've seen in my lifetime. Finished below an absolutely dire Partick team as well. Link to comment
Geoff_Tipps Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Are Hearts fans still planning on boycotting all away games this year @Wester Hailes Skins Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 minute ago, aberdeen1970 said: Aye, it would have been a play off. Wouldn't have fancied us that year much , we were fucking terrible. Worst Aberdeen team I've seen in my lifetime. That’s quite a claim. There’s been several contenders. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, Big Hat Logan said: That’s quite a claim. There’s been several contenders. McGhee's team wasn't much better. Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: McGhee's team wasn't much better. That game away to Raith Rovers was probably the worst 90 minutes I have ever endured. Link to comment
Shinniesta Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, maryhilldon said: 3 cups in 60 years isn't it? ? Yeah 3 major trophies since 1962. A shocking record for a club that promotes itself as Scotland's third biggest. According to skins' logic had Hearts actually won the league title that day at Dens in 1986 (this was still in the Fergie AFC era) he would never mention it now as he'd be too embarrassed due to him being around 50 and not being an adult at the time. Too long ago to ever mention or be relevant. And if you believe that you'll believe anything. To this day that would have been by far his greatest moment as a Hearts fan regardless of him not being an adult and would easily surpass any of the SC's he watched them win as a proper bonafide adult. To say he would never mention it consistently to back up his opinion of Hearts' credentials as a club due to it being won in the Fergie era is bollocks. Yet when we mention leagues and european trophies won in the same era it's apparently embarrassing. Go figure. Skins is right about one thing though Aberdeen have been utter shite in terms of winning major trophies since 1990. Glass needs to address that stat and rectify it quickly. Skins and I are of a similar age but would I swap my memories of watching Aberdeen for his of watching Hearts since we both caught the football bug? I think we all know the answer to that. But deep down he knows he would swap experiences in a flash. He knows he will never see his club win the league title or european trophies. 1 Link to comment
Wester Hailes Skins Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Shinniesta said: Yeah 3 major trophies since 1962. A shocking record for a club that promotes itself as Scotland's third biggest. According to skins' logic had Hearts actually won the league title that day at Dens in 1986 (this was still in the Fergie AFC era) he would never mention it now as he'd be too embarrassed due to him being around 50 and not being an adult at the time. Too long ago to ever mention or be relevant. And if you believe that you'll believe anything. To this day that would have been by far his greatest moment as a Hearts fan regardless of him not being an adult and would easily surpass any of the SC's he watched them win as a proper bonafide adult. To say he would never mention it consistently to back up his opinion of Hearts' credentials as a club due to it being won in the Fergie era is bollocks. Yet when we mention leagues and european trophies won in the same era it's apparently embarrassing. Go figure. Skins is right about one thing though Aberdeen have been utter shite in terms of winning major trophies since 1990. Glass needs to address that stat and rectify it quickly. Skins and I are of a similar age but would I swap my memories of watching Aberdeen for his of watching Hearts since we both caught the football bug? I think we all know the answer to that. But deep down he knows he would swap experiences in a flash. He knows he will never see his club win the league title or european trophies. Ha. I knew you'd join this one mate. You make me laugh though with the Lithuanian years chat. Given sales for Gordon, Bednar and others. We actually brought in more revenue by selling than we spent. And I've been down this road with you before. Winning Cup finals with Ryan McGowan and Darren Barr shouldn't see you crying fowl. It was hardly Gazza and Laudrup. Regardless of trophies, I wouldn't swap my late teens and 20s following Hearts. I look at the last 7 years of Budge then Covid and despair for that generation. Cole Stockton while being told to sit down and stop singing. I've also said before I have huge respect for Aberdeen. And Utd for their achievements. Most of my stuff is just rivalry bullshit. I want all outside Glasgow winning more. My favourite memories of Aberdeen was when we had a bit of a rivalry with Dean Windass winding up Hearts in the media. The whole who's bigger stuff. And you had nasty characters like Lee Richardson. I respect Aberdeen for their success. And for their away support. Murrayfield especially was really impressive. There. Happy? But you have been in decline and poor since, well, Hately at Ibrox. Or finishing 2nd to Celtic in 3 competitions I suppose. Scotland needs a strong Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs and Utd. Otherwise we're just like the Welsh League with Man U and Chelsea in it. 2 Link to comment
Wester Hailes Skins Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Geoff_Tipps said: Are Hearts fans still planning on boycotting all away games this year @Wester Hailes Skins I think it'll be hard enough to get to a home game never mind choosing to boycott an away match. 1 Link to comment
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