Coronavirus

[daytripping]

8 minutes ago, chief_wiggum said:

The predictor said I would get my second Jab in May, I got my second Pfizer yesterday, 3 weeks early.

I said no to the Pfizer jab, British all the way for me. I'm no putting that shite in my veins.

[maryhilldon]

30 minutes ago, Parklife said:

 

The test for them might come if virus prevalence rises and they want to keep everything open while still stopping spread. 

The vaccine doesn't stop you catching or spreading it though I don't think?  Just stops you becoming ill? 

[maryhilldon]

Got my jag appointment next week. I won't be going. 

[Parklife]

2 minutes ago, maryhilldon said:

The vaccine doesn't stop you catching or spreading it though I don't think?  Just stops you becoming ill? 

Not sure. I think that was the initial belief. Not sure if they've done more research on it or not. 

Ive stopped listening/reading to every bit of Covid news these days, so it's entirely possible I've missed things. 

[daytripping]

1 minute ago, Parklife said:

Not sure. I think that was the initial belief. Not sure if they've done more research on it or not. 

Ive stopped listening/reading to every bit of Covid news these days, so it's entirely possible I've missed things. 

My daughters granny caught it at the same time she did, the old girl had already been given the 2 jabs, barely registered as a mild cold, daughter was worse but still not so bad. The granny puts it down to the protection from the vaccine, given her age could well have been a life saver. Could be coincidence I guess. 

[Parklife]

5 minutes ago, daytripping said:

My daughters granny caught it at the same time she did, the old girl had already been given the 2 jabs, barely registered as a mild cold, daughter was worse but still not so bad. The granny puts it down to the protection from the vaccine, given her age could well have been a life saver. Could be coincidence I guess. 

Hopefully that positive outcome is an accurate reflection on the effectiveness of the vaccine on a bigger scale. 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

54 minutes ago, chief_wiggum said:

The predictor said I would get my second Jab in May, I got my second Pfizer yesterday, 3 weeks early.

Spot on you received your second jab min?.

I know the predictor is designed to just provide an estimate, however, it seems to be dragging on now. Patience is not one of my strong points though,?.

[manboobs109]

They've opened an 'asymptomatic testing centre' along the road from me. Watch the figures go up so we can go back into level 4. Fucking complete nonsense.

[thedandydon]

35 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Ive stopped listening/reading to every bit of Covid news these days, so it's entirely possible I've missed things. 

Good advice. We’re clearly in a decent place but they keep rolling out the most pessimistic, negative, doom and gloomers they can find with predictions of third waves and mutant variants hiding in the shadows. Some ‘expert’ on today mentioning a possible summer wave which although not improbable doesn’t really square with how things went last year or give much credence to the effectiveness of the vaccine which a heathy majority should have received by then, at least in part.

I’ve said it before that the government need to show some faith in their own vaccine programme and that it will accomplish what it needs to do. There has to be a collective acceptance that it’ll be around for years to come and we’ll just have to get on with living with it. People aren’t going to keep accepting having these measures imposed on them ad nauseum.

[NEM]

3 minutes ago, thedandydon said:

Good advice. We’re clearly in a decent place but they keep rolling out the most pessimistic, negative, doom and gloomers they can find with predictions of third waves and mutant variants hiding in the shadows. Some ‘expert’ on today mentioning a possible summer wave which although not improbable doesn’t really square with how things went last year or give much credence to the effectiveness of the vaccine which a heathy majority should have received by then, at least in part.

I’ve said it before that the government need to show some faith in their own vaccine programme and that it will accomplish what it needs to do. There has to be a collective acceptance that it’ll be around for years to come and we’ll just have to get on with living with it. People aren’t going to keep accepting having these measures imposed on them ad nauseum.

Totally agree with your general point but I'm not so sure about the bit in bold.......

[Parklife]

8 minutes ago, thedandydon said:

Good advice. We’re clearly in a decent place but they keep rolling out the most pessimistic, negative, doom and gloomers they can find with predictions of third waves and mutant variants hiding in the shadows. Some ‘expert’ on today mentioning a possible summer wave which although not improbable doesn’t really square with how things went last year or give much credence to the effectiveness of the vaccine which a heathy majority should have received by then, at least in part.

I’ve said it before that the government need to show some faith in their own vaccine programme and that it will accomplish what it needs to do. There has to be a collective acceptance that it’ll be around for years to come and we’ll just have to get on with living with it. People aren’t going to keep accepting having these measures imposed on them ad nauseum.

Agreed. We've had plenty to time now to get an effective track and trace system so there's no excuse that that, combined with the excellent vaccine progress shouldn't allow us to get back to something close to normal by the summer. 

Id be all but banning foreign travel too for the time being too, in order to protect our progress. 

 

[manboobs109]

The levels system is just an inexorable path to lockdown. As long as we keep it going we'll end up in lockdown. No idea why anyone thinks otherwise.

[Joe pike]

9 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

The levels system is just an inexorable path to lockdown. As long as we keep it going we'll end up in lockdown. No idea why anyone thinks otherwise.

Level 0 sums it up.

[daytripping]

We're down to 4 new cases, 5 yesterday. Just about wiped it out in time for the travel ban to end. Queue minks from glasgow and the central belt arriving to infect us again. Should never be a nationwide thing, each area on merit is clearly the way to go.

[manboobs109]

1 minute ago, Joe pike said:

Level 0 sums it up.

I might be wrong but I can't see how we move down levels. As you open things up the virus spreads more so I can't see how you go down, only up. Add in asymptomatic testing and what do you get? Lockdown.

[The Cockney Don]

1 hour ago, chief_wiggum said:

The predictor said I would get my second Jab in May, I got my second Pfizer yesterday, 3 weeks early.

10 to 12 weeks you're supposed to get the second dose, didn't you have your first one 10 weeks ago ?

I've got another 3 weeks for my second.

[The Cockney Don]

1 hour ago, maryhilldon said:

Got my jag appointment next week. I won't be going. 

Going for a merc instead ? 

[manboobs109]

I'm going to make a prediction. Come autumn Sturgeon will decide we need a 'short sharp lockdown' because of rising numbers. Boris will refuse to fund furlough and there will be lots of squabbling and chat about how we don't have control of all the levers etc.

Bookmarked

[Zeus]

Mind tho. Indian Variant. Stay safe! 

[Zeus]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56830398

 

Nae doot ?

[maryhilldon]

5 minutes ago, Zeus said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56830398

 

Nae doot ?

These fuckin scientists need to get back in their box.  Absolute doom mongers. 

[redstrummer]

3 hours ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

I am 42 min. Originally it was the first week of April,

Nae sure where you're getting that from . It was always over 50'S by mid April , which they achieved . Then it's 45 to 50'S next so I'd say mid May for you is bang on 

[chief_wiggum]

25 minutes ago, The Cockney Don said:

10 to 12 weeks you're supposed to get the second dose, didn't you have your first one 10 weeks ago ?

I've got another 3 weeks for my second.

Think it was about the10th Feb? so about 9 -10 weeks ago?

[The Cockney Don]

Just now, chief_wiggum said:

Think it was about the10th Feb? so about 9 -10 weeks ago?

Yeah that's 10.

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

3 minutes ago, redstrummer said:

Nae sure where you're getting that from . It was always over 50'S by mid April , which they achieved . Then it's 45 to 50'S next so I'd say mid May for you is bang on 

Fair enough min. I got the info from this website....

https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-scotland

[Ramandu]

17 minutes ago, maryhilldon said:

These fuckin scientists need to get back in their box.  Absolute doom mongers. 

I've no problem with them making predictions. But it's very annoying that nobody seems to revisit past predictions to see how accurate they were. We shouldn't be listening to anyone who has a history of being wrong, we should be giving airtime to those who have got things right.

If there are no consequences to getting it wrong people will continue to get it wrong.

[Fridge]

25 minutes ago, Ramandu said:

I've no problem with them making predictions. But it's very annoying that nobody seems to revisit past predictions to see how accurate they were. We shouldn't be listening to anyone who has a history of being wrong, we should be giving airtime to those who have got things right.

If there are no consequences to getting it wrong people will continue to get it wrong.

See the DWT thread

[Ten Caat]

23 minutes ago, Ramandu said:

I've no problem with them making predictions. But it's very annoying that nobody seems to revisit past predictions to see how accurate they were. We shouldn't be listening to anyone who has a history of being wrong, we should be giving airtime to those who have got things right.

If there are no consequences to getting it wrong people will continue to get it wrong.

You fail to understand the nature of medicine in general that has been the case for the past 30 years or so. Clinicians have become conditioned to be totally risk averse, in a world inhabited by an ever litigious public. 

 

[maryhilldon]

27 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

You fail to understand 

 

I've heard that somewhere before ?

[aberdeen1970]

1 hour ago, Zeus said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56830398

 

Nae doot ?

A lot of mays and ifs peppered through that article