Coronavirus

[BrianFaePerth]

Ok one last go.

There are no phases 1 and 2.
 

Countries like Oz and NZ took a clearly incorrect approach that led to complacency, hence the low jab rates. Even now most folk don’t see the point as the covids only affects foreigners. Thus, as eh have said since day 1, we’ve painted ourselves in to a corner.

The article says exactly this. Eh can appreciate you don’t know the ins and outs of what’s happened here over the past 16 months, but this article sums it up entirely. 

Oz and NZ got it wrong. The UK turned round a really fucked up situ and surpassed us

[Parklife]

17 minutes ago, BrianFaePerth said:

Ok one last go.

There are no phases 1 and 2.

There are. Of course there are. Australia initially kept Covid numbers really low. That they didn't build on this with a decent vaccine rollout doesn't mean this wasn't successful. 

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Countries like Oz and NZ took a clearly incorrect approach that led to complacency, hence the low jab rates. Even now most folk don’t see the point as the covids only affects foreigners. Thus, as eh have said since day 1, we’ve painted ourselves in to a corner.

The Government not effectively rolling out vaccines and communicating their importance doesn't mean that their initial suppression/elimination strategy was flawed. 

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The article says exactly this. Eh can appreciate you don’t know the ins and outs of what’s happened here over the past 16 months, but this article sums it up entirely. 

The article criticises the slow roll out and lack of clear messaging on the importance of the vaccines. It doesn't say that the early phase strategy was wrong at all. In fact it calls the early strategy a "victory" and says it's been squandered by a poor vaccine rollout: 

“He was wrong. Having squandered its early victory over the virus, despite being one of the world’s wealthiest countries, Australia now faces a costly round of restrictions as it struggles to protect a largely unimmunised population from outbreaks of the highly contagious Delta variant.”

You're seeing ghosts here, Bri. 

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Oz and NZ got it wrong. The UK turned round a really fucked up situ and surpassed us

I'm sure the extra 127k dead people in the UK would disagree. 

The UK's vaccine rollout has been excellent though. Hopefully, it proves to be effective in the long term too. 

[BrianFaePerth]

The governments stated aim last year was to keep us isolated. Until 2 weeks ago there was no change in policy and talk of anything else. If you insist on phases, we were phase 1 until the end of June 2021.

This phase 1 led to oldies and other vulnerables saying “she’ll be right so you can fuck off with your jab”. There were stories when the jab first came to WA of 90% of old folk home residents rejecting the offer and staff being bussed in to get the jab so it didn’t go to waste. That is phase 1 failure.

We have 40-50000 citizens that still can’t come home. Their lives fucked in various ways. They’re double jabbed but told no they can’t come to the country of their birth as they might give the locals the flu.

There is still a majority of people who don’t see the point of the jab. We’re told that we will open up when everyone who wants jabbed has been jabbed. Thus leaving a vulnerable population, to a flu, but that’s another argument.

We will suffer longer than everywhere else, maybe even have the same stats as everywhere else when all is said and done.

Like eh have said before, if the whole world had done like Oz/NZ then agreed, it was the right approach. But they didn’t, and we are fucked because of it.

 

[dazzy_deff]

1 minute ago, BrianFaePerth said:

The governments stated aim last year was to keep us isolated. Until 2 weeks ago there was no change in policy and talk of anything else. If you insist on phases, we were phase 1 until the end of June 2021.

This phase 1 led to oldies and other vulnerables saying “she’ll be right so you can fuck off with your jab”. There were stories when the jab first came to WA of 90% of old folk home residents rejecting the offer and staff being bussed in to get the jab so it didn’t go to waste. That is phase 1 failure.

We have 40-50000 citizens that still can’t come home. Their lives fucked in various ways. They’re double jabbed but told no they can’t come to the country of their birth as they might give the locals the flu.

There is still a majority of people who don’t see the point of the jab. We’re told that we will open up when everyone who wants jabbed has been jabbed. Thus leaving a vulnerable population, to a flu, but that’s another argument.

We will suffer longer than everywhere else, maybe even have the same stats as everywhere else when all is said and done.

Like eh have said before, if the whole world had done like Oz/NZ then agreed, it was the right approach. But they didn’t, and we are fucked because of it.

 

Shame. Get it up yi.

Oz...lol. 

[BrianFaePerth]

2 minutes ago, dazzy_deff said:

Shame. Get it up yi.

Oz...lol. 

Second Pfizer for me tomorrow, So eh am fine ??

Pool vibes again in a few weeks

[thedandydon]

Always though the OZ/NZ strategy was going to be unsustainable in the long run. Trying to eliminate a flu-like virus seems a bit futile. They’ve managed to keep numbers low through a cycle of strict lockdowns and closed borders but unless they want to stay closed off to the rest of the world for years to come they’ll have to tackle it head on eventually. The delta variant found its way in and you now have a largely unvaccinated, immune-suppressed nation, many of whom are probably complacent about the whole thing as it hasn’t taken hold anywhere near as bad as the likes of ourselves.

We’ve definitely not covered ourselves in glory in how we’ve gone about things in this county but the one success has been the vaccination programme which, coupled with a fairly widespread number of cases aiding herd immunity we should be able to move forward quicker than most. We’ll all have to learn to live with this eventually.

[dazzy_deff]

49 minutes ago, BrianFaePerth said:

Second Pfizer for me tomorrow, So eh am fine ??

Pool vibes again in a few weeks

Edit to add a pool reference. What a loser. 

[BrianFaePerth]

27 minutes ago, dazzy_deff said:

Edit to add a pool reference. What a loser. 

Edit was to tidy up some bad spelling. Prick

[dazzy_deff]

4 minutes ago, BrianFaePerth said:

Edit was to tidy up some bad spelling. Prick

Well it wasnt. There was no pool reference in the original post. Loser. 

[Parklife]

1 hour ago, BrianFaePerth said:

The governments stated aim last year was to keep us isolated. Until 2 weeks ago there was no change in policy and talk of anything else. If you insist on phases, we were phase 1 until the end of June 2021.

No. I said Australia had performed well at a point in time. You can't extrapolate me saying that 9 months ago and say that it's what I'm saying now. 

1 hour ago, BrianFaePerth said:

This phase 1 led to oldies and other vulnerables saying “she’ll be right so you can fuck off with your jab”. There were stories when the jab first came to WA of 90% of old folk home residents rejecting the offer and staff being bussed in to get the jab so it didn’t go to waste. That is phase 1 failure.

No. It's very much part of the poor vaccine rollout and messaging in vaccines. Something I've never commented on. 

The article that you claim "proves me wrong", does no such thing. 

Australia handled the early stages of the pandemic very well (as the article implies) but have subsequently failed on vaccine rollout, both in terms of messaging on the importance of it & getting vaccines in arms. The latter being a failure doesn't mean the former was. 

 

[strachanmcgheegoal]

11 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Poor Rod Hull. 

Still a cracking joke though.  Rods hanging one handed from the roof aerial and Emu says “fuck me that was close”

ba boom tish

[Parklife]

Any news on changes @The Buzzard? 

[Zeus]

Aye what's it all about today?  Delaying our freedoms? 

[Howard Marks]

25 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Aye what's it all about today?  Delaying our freedoms? 

Delayed indefinitely. It's time to put the brakes on.

[Joe pike]

Careful and cautious.

[The Buzzard]

46 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Any news on changes @The Buzzard? 

Bear with me. 

[dazzy_deff]

Stay safe and FACTS. 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

A mole within Holywood has leaked to the press that a return to a full-on lockdown is imminent prior to Nicola Sturgeon's announcement at 2pm....

 

 

 

Here is the mole in question......

[The Buzzard]

Move to Level 0 on Monday. Although wearing of face coverings to remain mandatory most likely for a good while to come yet. 
Level 0 means up to 8 folk from 4 households can meet in an indoor setting. 15 from 5 outdoors. 
Weddings allowed for 200 people attending.

No need to book 2 hour slots in pubs and restaurants. Still need to provide details for Test and Protect. Face coverings when not seated. 
stadiums outdoor - 2000. Indoors 400

closing time for hospitality is midnight. Presume that means nightclubs remain shut. 
Asking businesses to continue to support home working. 
So still restrictions even at 0 and the hope is to go beyond 0 after 9 August. 
 

edit re numbers meeting. It's 8 people from 4 households can meet indoors at home. 10 from 4 in a public indoor space, and 15 from 15 households outdoors in a private garden or a public setting. Children don't count towards those totals. 

[Parklife]

2 minutes ago, The Buzzard said:

Move to Level 0 on Monday. Although wearing of face coverings to remain mandatory most likely for a good while to come yet. 
Level 0 means up to 8 folk from 4 households can meet in an indoor setting. 15 from 5 outdoors. 
Weddings allowed for 200 people attending.

No need to book 2 hour slots in pubs and restaurants. Still need to provide details for Test and Protect. Face coverings when not seated. 
stadiums outdoor - 2000. Indoors 400

closing time for hospitality is midnight. Presume that means nightclubs remain shut. 
Asking businesses to continue to support home working. 
So still restrictions even at 0 and the hope is to go beyond 0 after 9 August. 

Top man. Thanks. 

[The Buzzard]

6 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Top man. Thanks. 

Note my edit re numbers too, Parky.

[dazzy_deff]

Theres been no requirement to book 2 hour slots in bars/restaurants at all. Was advised in level 2 but not enforced. Not even advised in level 1. 

[Quagmire]

 

17 minutes ago, The Buzzard said:

10 from 4 in a public indoor space 

Does that mean technically 5 mates from different households can't sit at a table together in a bar? 

[The Buzzard]

4 minutes ago, dazzy_deff said:

Theres been no requirement to book 2 hour slots in bars/restaurants at all. Was advised in level 2 but not enforced. Not even advised in level 1. 

Only going by what I read, 'and for hospitality businesses, at level 0 - unlike in level 2 - there is no requirement for customers to pre-book a two-hour slot to go to a pub or restaurant.'

[The Buzzard]

1 minute ago, Quagmire said:

 

Does that mean technically 5 mates from different households can't sit at a table together in a bar? 

As I read it, yep. 

[dazzy_deff]

4 minutes ago, Quagmire said:

 

Does that mean technically 5 mates from different households can't sit at a table together in a bar? 

Yes. Only way that could happen is if two lived together or were an extended bubble. It is very difficult to police however. 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

So there's not much change then.

Oh well, the torture continues. Continuing to play with and destroy peoples' lives and their minds. Thanks Nicola. 

[Guest]

I've been clear to come out of isolation for over a week now and I still feel absolutely brutal. 
 

Not as bad as when I proper had it but still got a cough, exhaustion and can't concentrate for shit. 
 

Heard of folk experiencing symptoms for like 6 months. Can't be arsed with that. 

[Joe pike]

2,000 at Pittodrie

lol

[Zeus]

^coffee and a couple painkillers 

Sorted.