Coronavirus

[manboobs109]

5 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Can you show me where as I can't see him saying that? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-59932430

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Judge Kelly appeared to agree with Mr Wood's argument and told government lawyers that he felt "agitated" by what he had heard so far.

"What more could this man have done?" he asked

 

[Reed or deed]

Hope he gets to stay and loses 3-0 to Jeremy Bates in the 1st round ?

[Reed or deed]

26 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

They have been applied, the judge said so. The ozzies are just getting nippy coz there's an election coming up.

He's being made an example of, it's as simple as that.

He’s made an example of himself with various levels of misconduct for years.

What goes around comes around.

 

[The Boofon]

4 minutes ago, Reed or deed said:

Hope he gets to stay and loses 3-0 to Jeremy Bates in the 1st round ?

Hope he does both his cruciates  before the first round.

[Guest]

39 minutes ago, NEM said:

Lol as I said, strange logic 

The logic that elected officials should apply whatever rules they implement to everyone fairly? It's not about whether you or I disagree with them, it's about the fact they are the rules, and they are being applied across the board, so should be applied to Djokovic. 
 

Imagine we could all just get away with laws/rules we didn't agree with.

[Parklife]

10 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-59932430

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Judge Kelly appeared to agree with Mr Wood's argument and told government lawyers that he felt "agitated" by what he had heard so far.

"What more could this man have done?" he asked

 

That's not him saying that Djokovic followed the rules to get an exemption. 

[Guest]

33 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

They have been applied, the judge said so. The ozzies are just getting nippy coz there's an election coming up.

He's being made an example of, it's as simple as that.

The key question for me is;

 

As far as we know, has anyone else been offered/allowed to gain access to the country via the same means Djokovic is proposing? 

[Parklife]

Just now, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said:

The key question for me is;

 

As far as we know, has anyone else been offered/allowed to gain access to the country via the same means Djokovic is proposing? 

Yeah. A doubles player was detained on Friday and flew home. Same with a member of another players support team. 

[The Boofon]

3 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said:

The logic that elected officials should apply whatever rules they implement to everyone fairly? It's not about whether you or I disagree with them, it's about the fact they are the rules, and they are being applied across the board, so should be applied to Djokovic. 
 

Imagine we could all just get away with laws/rules we didn't agree with.

That's what playing for the huns gets you.

[jamiesd]

1 hour ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said:

He's a millionaire who wants to be exempt from rules that would apply to abdy else. 

He maybe thinks he should have the same rules as MP's around the world.

 

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Yeah. A doubles player was detained on Friday and flew home. Same with a member of another players support team. 

So nobody unvaccinated is allowed into Australia based off of recently having had COVID and a negative LFT?

 

Have they offered this solution/circumvention to anyone else as far as we know or just Djokovic? 

[Parklife]

8 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said:

So nobody unvaccinated is allowed into Australia based off of recently having had COVID and a negative LFT?

 

Have they offered this solution/circumvention to anyone else as far as we know or just Djokovic? 

They are allowed in but have to do a 2 week quarantine if they're unvaccinated. 

[Guest]

Just now, Parklife said:

They are allowed in but have to do a 2 week quarantine if they're unvaccinated. 

And I repeat myself, as far as we know, nobody else has managed to navigate a way past this in the manger Djokovic is now? 

[Parklife]

18 minutes ago, jamiesd said:

He maybe thinks he should have the same rules as MP's around the world.

 

He should become an MP then. 

[Poodler]

Why is Djokovic’s family getting so much air time? 
 

I think Oz have handled it poorly tbh. I imagine the govt to be weak yes men like SOTR, who is too scared to do the right thing and bring Tup back 

[Parklife]

1 minute ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said:

And I repeat myself, as far as we know, nobody else has managed to navigate a way past this in the manger Djokovic is now? 

As far as I know, no one still in Australia for the Australian open has received an exemption from quarantine using a recent positive infection as the reason. 

[The Boofon]

17 minutes ago, Poodler said:

Why is Djokovic’s family getting so much air time? 
 

I think Oz have handled it poorly tbh. I imagine the govt to be weak yes men like SOTR, who is too scared to do the right thing and bring Tup back 

SOTR is at the protest I reckon. He's been awfully quiet.

[Fridge]

26 minutes ago, Poodler said:

Why is Djokovic’s family getting so much air time? 
 

I think Oz have handled it poorly tbh. I imagine the govt to be weak yes men like SOTR, who is too scared to do the right thing and bring Tup back 

Bring back Rocket also, he took speaking pish to even more outrageous levels than any of us and that takes some doing

[manboobs109]

1 hour ago, Parklife said:

That's not him saying that Djokovic followed the rules to get an exemption. 

What is he saying then?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/10/novak-djokovic-judge-agitated-by-issue-of-why-australian-government-did-not-accept-tennis-players-medical-exemption

The judge hearing Novak Djokovic’s case has queried “what more” he could have done to prove his medical exemption and criticised the Australian government for reneging on a deal to give him more time to defend his visa from cancellation.

Judge Anthony Kelly said he was “preoccupied” and “somewhat agitated” by the issue of why Australian officials did not accept an exemption document provided by the world No 1 male tennis player from a qualified physician, backed up by an independent Victorian government panel.

 

[manboobs109]

55 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said:

The key question for me is;

 

As far as we know, has anyone else been offered/allowed to gain access to the country via the same means Djokovic is proposing? 

Yeah loads of people. You can get a visa without quarantine if you've been vaccinated or had covid within 6 months. He's had covid in December so got a visa but the political pressure because he's anti vax got too much for the government.

[Poodler]

14 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Yeah loads of people. You can get a visa without quarantine if you've been vaccinated or had covid within 6 months. He's had covid in December so got a visa but the political pressure because he's anti vax got too much for the government.

Loads of people. Made up rubbish. 

[manboobs109]

5 minutes ago, Poodler said:

Loads of people. Made up rubbish. 

So it's a rule no one has used then?

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Yeah loads of people. You can get a visa without quarantine if you've been vaccinated or had covid within 6 months. He's had covid in December so got a visa but the political pressure because he's anti vax got too much for the government.

Sauce?

[Poodler]

11 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

So it's a rule no one has used then?

I’m taking issue with your loads of people statement. I don’t know the ins and outs of every individual case but there’s certainly not loads of visas being dished out 

[manboobs109]

12 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said:

Sauce?

I can't give an exact number but it's not just an exemption that has been applied to him it's open to anyone and presumably has been used by people.

[manboobs109]

8 minutes ago, Poodler said:

I’m taking issue with your loads of people statement. I don’t know the ins and outs of every individual case but there’s certainly not loads of visas being dished out 

It's all relative innit. I maybe shouldn't have said "loads" but it's not just Djokovic put it that way.

[BrianFaePerth]

There’s also the quota thing.

If you’re a dirty unvaccinated type you have to join a queue to get in (to the rest of Australia, not WA). The immigration minister could easily rule he jumped the queue and kick him out.

The whole thing is pathetic tho, the letter of the law (albeit a law full of flaws) upheld for millionaires, but Bruce and Sheila can fuck off.

[manboobs109]

47 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

What is he saying then?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/10/novak-djokovic-judge-agitated-by-issue-of-why-australian-government-did-not-accept-tennis-players-medical-exemption

The judge hearing Novak Djokovic’s case has queried “what more” he could have done to prove his medical exemption and criticised the Australian government for reneging on a deal to give him more time to defend his visa from cancellation.

Judge Anthony Kelly said he was “preoccupied” and “somewhat agitated” by the issue of why Australian officials did not accept an exemption document provided by the world No 1 male tennis player from a qualified physician, backed up by an independent Victorian government panel.

 

@Parklife

When you get a minute.

[Don Fonte]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59930206

That's the way to sort it out. No fucking around.

[Parklife]

10 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

@Parklife

When you get a minute.

Yeah. So he didn't say that Djokovic followed all the rules, as you claimed. 

He said Djokovic did all he could to demonstrate he was entitled to an exemption from quarantine. 

The Australian government have confirmed that a previous infection does not necessarily entitle someone to an exemption to quarantine. Hence why if they'd waited about 50 minutes before terminating his visa, he'd be on the plane home.