Parklife Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said: So when your close to retiring from your job you'd be happy and grateful to take a 50% pay cut to do the same job you'd have been doing for the previous 18 years... in fact potentially a lot more work if taking on coaching also? If I was much worse/less capable at my job and in the process of being replaced, then I'd see that coming. Id also be grateful if my employer was funding my future training and development to set me up for my next career by paying for me to do qualifications. Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said: Absolutely, i dont doubt that. However at the end of the day its a job and you negotiate when you're being offered a new contract and new wage. Its only being greedy if he was demanding substantially more money than he was previously on which i highly doubt. He's being greedy considering his age, injury problems and the fact we agreed to pay for his coaching too. We can agree to disagree it's a forum. Link to comment
DelMonte Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said: So when your close to retiring from your job you'd be happy and grateful to take a 50% pay cut to do the same job you'd have been doing for the previous 18 years... in fact potentially a lot more work if taking on coaching also? Are you that thick? Seriously? 2 2 Link to comment
Parklife Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said: Its only being greedy if he was demanding substantially more money than he was previously on No. That's not true at all. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Redmist1903 said: You must have seen quite a bit of the boy in action have you? Trouble is when I try to recollect him he somehow morphs into the boy Lescott with the funny forehead ex of Man City. I fear Im going to be left somewhat underwhelmed. Link to comment
starryfish Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 chance of Bates getting injured early doors on Saturday and Considine coming on and playing a stormer? Link to comment
zeroisgod76 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, DelMonte said: Are you that thick? Seriously? So you'll take a huge paycut when you're approaching retirement age? More fool you!! Link to comment
Parklife Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said: So you'll take a huge paycut when you're approaching retirement age? More fool you!! You're comparing an ordinary job where physical attributes are unimportant, to that of an elite athlete. ? 1 Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said: So you'll take a huge paycut when you're approaching retirement age? More fool you!! How is any other job the same as a footballer ??? Link to comment
minijc Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 If today has taught us one thing it's that those who get info should always be respectful to their source and not blab it all over the internet. 4 Link to comment
Shinniesta Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 40 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: I don't think Goodwin will give a fuck. He's clearly not scared to take on the big decisions. Agreed. A manager not scared to take on the big decisions is exactly what we need. Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 2 hours ago, beef_sister said: Brilliant move from Goodwin coming out and telling us straight what has happened The considine agenda can be put to bed now. He wanted a longer term deal at 35yrs old coming off the back of a serious injury...... I'd like to think his agent has filled his head with shite and he's followed with it, Regardless, He's delusional to think he can dictate to the club what he wants at this stage in his career, Good luck wherever he goes, But lets put this into perspective, We've lost a journeyman centre half at the end of the day, Not Cannavaro Absolutely. Aye good luck Andy, but you've made a rip roaring cunt of this one. Credit to Goodwin for clearing up any doubt on the matter. No fucking about. 1 Link to comment
The Buzzard Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 2 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Hopefully the club statement put out about AC shuts up the folk who are wailing like prom queens about him leaving. Made a very generous offer for a 35 year old whose been out for 8 months injured. He/his agent got greedy The club withdraw the offer End of story. Thanks for the service, good luck & goodbye. Close the thread here. Spot on. Link to comment
DelMonte Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 52 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said: So you'll take a huge paycut when you're approaching retirement age? More fool you!! ? fucking hell!!!! Link to comment
Site Sponsor Dom Sullivan Posted April 6, 2022 Site Sponsor Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, BaaBaaRedSheep said: Goodwin's statement seems very balanced to me. Andy's agent has fucked up here. At 35 on the back of a season out injured £100k per year minimum is a good wage for a player who is likely to be used sparingly next season + being given assistance to progress towards a post playing career. Imagine being paid that wage in the real world for doing less than normally expected + getting trained for your next potential job at the same time. With the current cost of living crisis players/agents (delete as appropriate) should waken up and smell the coffee!!!! ^^^this excellent post. reality check needed by either Andy or his Agent (or both). join the rest of us in the real world Link to comment
winchester83 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 I thought he only got a year extension last time and was happy enough with that, bad tactics me thinks Link to comment
Guest Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Don't know what all the fuss is about, considenes agent has rolled the dice & failed. Considine has been a great servant to the club & I wish him well, but if we are really annoyed at losing a 35 yo bit part player then god help us. I think it's time to clear the decks with guys who just aren't cutting it. Too many players on inflated wages & doing fuck all for it. Link to comment
beef_sister Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Ten Caat said: I'm not sure there will be another player to chalk up 20 years service with us ever again. Regardless of what seems like the agent getting greedy (i really don't think he would have done so without Considine's express consent to do so).......I'd just far rather the club had made a statement along the lines of......."After reviewing his squad needs for next season and beyond, Jim Goodwin has decided not to offer Andy a new contract. He will always be a legend to everyone at AFC and along with thanking him for his 2 decades of service, we wish him every success in his future career" It now looks like his departure will be under a massive cloud. Hopefully he will get to play a final match at Pittodrie before the season ends to say goodbye to the support but I'm not convinced he will now That part needs removed. He is no legend, A stalwart yes, Legend... absolutely not in my book. 1 Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, zeroisgod76 said: So when your close to retiring from your job you'd be happy and grateful to take a 50% pay cut to do the same job you'd have been doing for the previous 18 years... in fact potentially a lot more work if taking on coaching also? 1 hour ago, zeroisgod76 said: So you'll take a huge paycut when you're approaching retirement age? More fool you!! Holy fuck. A career in football is not like an office job. What part don't you get. In the main, players as they get older have to negotiate down, but hope to get as good a deal as possible. I'd say it would have to be exceptional circumstances where as you get older you maintain your salary. Messi and Ronaldo for instance. Hate to break it to you but Consi ain't in that category. Rinse out your knickers and move on with your day. I honestly can't believe that grown men are getting so upset about this. Women yes, men no. 1 2 Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 An awful lot of shit being lost today by way too many people re - Considine Its almost like in the last 2 years, Covid has erased how bang average big Andy was pre 2020. He was never anything more than a squad player but somehow racked up over 500 appearances for the Dons. Goodwin has taken this one head on. I’ve no doubt he had Cormack in his ear double and triple checking he’s sure about this but has not buckled. McInnes and Glass would have caved in, no doubt about that. For any club to offer any 35 yr old, with a recent major injury, a 2 yr deal, must be mental. Which probably rules in Cove 2 Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, strachanmcgheegoal said: Trouble is when I try to recollect him he somehow morphs into the boy Lescott with the funny forehead ex of Man City. I fear Im going to be left somewhat underwhelmed. This guy? Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, beef_sister said: That part needs removed. He is no legend, A stalwart yes, Legend... absolutely not in my book. Cult figure for longevity and nothing else. Doesn’t come close to meeting LEGEND criteria. His goals in the LC run of 2014 were mucho appreciato, M/well in particular Link to comment
Geoff_Tipps Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Make him train with the reserves. Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Given the contract Brown got in summer, I can maybe see why Considine’s agent though he could get something similar. The problem with that though is Brown should never have got that contract in the first place. A 1 year deal with the opportunity to get into the coaching side of things would have been fine. Albeit we don’t know what wage he was being offered/wanting. Link to comment
Tommy Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Andy_123 said: A 1 year deal with the opportunity to get into the coaching side of things would have been fine. Albeit we don’t know what wage he was being offered/wanting. The club said he was offered a six figure annual salary, agent wanted over half again. A no brainier. Link to comment
Sheepo Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 He is probably seeing the deals the other poorer defenders are getting at the club and wants similar, surely Devlin must be following him out the door and Goodwin will need good replacements as the current crop of defenders at the club are very ordinary Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tommy said: The club said he was offered a six figure annual salary, agent wanted over half again. A no brainier. Sounds a lot but that could be just a little over £2k a week & he wanted £3k which (other than the young players) most will be on at least Likes of McLennan,Kennedy, JET etc. & loads of other shite will all be on ‘6 figure deals’ a year. Just ask Mini. Link to comment
Alex Ferguson Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 We've paid journeymen and ex Huns and Celtic players more at the end of their careers. Considine has earnt it here, he has accepted pennies throughout his career, if anything he deserves a pay day. He should be an inspiration- you could say to the younger players look what happens when you spend almost 20 years at the club, you should get rewarded for being part of the club's DNA. No idea why considine or his agent would leak it, it's an inside job to make Goodwin look the hardman, ringing the changes, well the "club" have misjudged public opinion and I hope they back track. 2 1 Link to comment
redone Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, Alex Ferguson said: We've paid journeymen and ex Huns and Celtic players more at the end of their careers. Considine has earnt it here, he has accepted pennies throughout his career, if anything he deserves a pay day. He should be an inspiration- you could say to the younger players look what happens when you spend almost 20 years at the club, you should get rewarded for being part of the club's DNA. No idea why considine or his agent would leak it, it's an inside job to make Goodwin look the hardman, ringing the changes, well the "club" have misjudged public opinion and I hope they back track. 18 years a Slave - the Andy Considine biopic Strange that he never accepted at least two hundred thousand pennies a week. 3 Link to comment
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