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12 minutes ago, beef_sister said:

Anyone who boasts about being intelligent is usually a spastic. The shoe fits with this one

Only more intelligent than DelMonte which clearly wouldn't be hard.

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Wee Derik is loving the shitshow Cormack has created 🤣

Milne is sitting at home eating bacon on Rowies now loving the fact folk are realising the devil we knew wasn’t the only one that could fk the club up 🤣

 

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19 minutes ago, beef_sister said:

Why?

He was an average centre half / fullback who has had a couple of half decent seasons. won one trophy in that time, Contributed to some of the worst football we had under McGhee, Bottled numerous semi finals / finals, The list goes on..... Are folk not allowed to criticise him because he's Aberdonian? Fucking mental the amount of folk who are turning him into a lynchpin of our team for the last 18 years😂

Not the point I was making really. Slightly off in a tangent lad.

I understand some of the criticism, of course I do.

18 years, many different managers... game time constantly. I suspect those managers knew more than you or I.

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3 minutes ago, beef_sister said:

Local lad done good, I get that

But the reaction it's getting that we've released a player who's coming to the end of his career is absurd. I could understand it if he was by far the best player in our squad, The reality is, He's not, You speak about managers, Goodwin clearly thinks he's a squad player so i presume he knows more than you and i about how he wants to take the team forward. I'll trust him on this one.

Yes me too.

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27 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Thought he had already started his badges anyway 

I thought so to

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Local lad done good, I get that

But the reaction it's getting that we've released a player who's coming to the end of his career is absurd. I could understand it if he was by far the best player in our squad, The reality is, He's not, You speak about managers, Goodwin clearly thinks he's a squad player so i presume he knows more than you and i about how he wants to take the team forward. I'll trust him on this one.

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1 minute ago, thurso said:

I thought so to

Was coaching one of the youth sides i think? Not sure if you need to have started your badges to do that..... Maybe someone can enlighten us on that

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11 minutes ago, beef_sister said:

Local lad done good, I get that

But the reaction it's getting that we've released a player who's coming to the end of his career is absurd. I could understand it if he was by far the best player in our squad, The reality is, He's not, You speak about managers, Goodwin clearly thinks he's a squad player so i presume he knows more than you and i about how he wants to take the team forward. I'll trust him on this one.

I actually don't think too many people have issues with him being released. Its the way its been handled by the club with the pathetic hunnish statement being released yesterday with insinuations but no context, that has many people turning against a guy who has given 18 years to the club.

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5 minutes ago, beef_sister said:

Local lad done good, I get that

But the reaction it's getting that we've released a player who's coming to the end of his career is absurd. I could understand it if he was by far the best player in our squad, The reality is, He's not, You speak about managers, Goodwin clearly thinks he's a squad player so i presume he knows more than you and i about how he wants to take the team forward. I'll trust him on this one.

I haven't reacted in any way like he's the best player. I don't think that, I would like to think I understand fitba a bit better.

I'm gutted he is going because fucking love Consi but it isn't coming as a shock.

I think it's classless statement from the club.

I also mentioned some of the criticism from local gadgies is wild cause you and I would love to be in that position for 18 years. I always think local cunts for Aiberdeen get so much more criticism than other players. 

I trust every manager more than me or you, Goodwin included. It's pissed Goodwin off but from the understanding I have, it's the leak closer IN the club and not his agent.

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2 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

If it's not Andy and his agent that have leaked this to the press then the club have definitely jumped the gun by sharing an employee's financial details in a club statement. 

Not a good look for the club either way. 

How have they?

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3 minutes ago, beef_sister said:

That's what i was thinking... they've quoted no figures whatsoever

Yeah they have 

6 figure sum for one year 

Request for 50% more 

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7 minutes ago, Roberto said:

I haven't reacted in any way like he's the best player. I don't think that, I would like to think I understand fitba a bit better.

I'm gutted he is going because fucking love Consi but it isn't coming as a shock.

I think it's classless statement from the club.

I also mentioned some of the criticism from local gadgies is wild cause you and I would love to be in that position for 18 years. I always think local cunts for Aiberdeen get so much more criticism than other players. 

I trust every manager more than me or you, Goodwin included. It's pissed Goodwin off but from the understanding I have, it's the leak closer IN the club and not his agent.

I'm not meaning you specifically, just in general. 18yrs is some going but it has to end at some point.

Personally i don't think the statement is too bad IF it's came from his agent or someone close to him. You said you've spoken to someone close to him regarding it.. What's to say he's not talking shite to cover for Considine or his agent? it's all conjecture. We've pandered to players for years it seems and been made a cunt of. Now we've came out and said something along the lines of " He had this option, Didn't like it, countered and then we've taken the offer off the table" Goodwin is obviously raging and released that statement to back the club up. 'll take Aberdeen's side over Considine any day i'm afraid.

 

Of course they get more grief, Doesn;t mean it's right but i'd say it's more to do with them being more relatable to the fan base rather than some object from Belgium who can't string two passes together. But you're right. i'd have done anything to play for Aberdeen the length of time he has.

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Just now, Millertime said:

How have they?

That's what i was thinking... they've quoted no figures whatsoever

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2 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Yeah they have 

6 figure sum for one year 

Request for 50% more 

Ahh ok, So we guess what the figure is from anything between 100,000 - 999,999k. I'll split the difference and go for 500,000 per annum

Pretty vague if you ask me

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5 minutes ago, beef_sister said:

Ahh ok, So we guess what the figure is from anything between 100,000 - 999,999k. I'll split the difference and go for 500,000 per annum

Pretty vague if you ask me

Think we are all fully aware it'll be the bottom end of that scale.

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6 hours ago, The D.O.C.1903 said:

And it all started with that shady cunt cormack! Hey maybe he'll stand outside pittodrie n hand out free tickets on sat? Nah no chance the tory voting cunt would do that. I think the yank wannabe should be hounded out our Club, and I also think once he's left' cormack Park should be renamed 

Is there any reason why we couldn't lease/sell the naming rights to it? 

(Bar Cormack's ego)

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2 hours ago, Redmist1903 said:

Have you seen much of the boy to come to that conclusion?

I've seen enough and read enough yes

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2 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

I think the negotiation on salary bit is fine. They've offered him a cut and he was trying to keep that cut as low as possible. 

I suspect Hayes has agreed a 3k per week deal and they were trying to achieve parity due to being similar ages etc. 

I'm surprised about the 2 year bit as he happily extended by one year previously. This leads me to suspect he's been offered 2 years somewhere else and they were trying to see if the club would match that. 

Otherwise you'd think if he didn't have something else on the table he would have backtracked and taken the one year offer at the meeting on Monday. 

Did he? I saw that he signed a two year deal in December 2020, didn't realise he'd been happy with one year deals previously.

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19 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Yeah they have 

6 figure sum for one year 

Request for 50% more 

They offered him a 6 figure sum, yeah

Which could be anything from 2k a week upwards 

How's that his private details?

It's the clubs private details if anything

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1 hour ago, zeroisgod76 said:

Never claimed i was more intelligent than everyone, however you're the one that doesn't understand what a negotiation is. So i'm clearly more intelligent than you.

Nah you’ve tried to move the goalposts. You compared it to a normal job which is pointless. Like I said, pointless debating it because you’re in over your head. 

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Still bickering over Andy bloody Considine. A man that couldn't even lace Brian Irvine or Russell Anderson's boots never mind our true great defenders.

 

Laughable

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6 minutes ago, DelMonte said:

Nah you’ve tried to move the goalposts. You compared it to a normal job which is pointless. Like I said, pointless debating it because you’re in over your head. 

I only compared it to a normal job in that in neither would you just happily roll over and accept a 50% pay cut because you're coming to the end of your career. Maybe you would but most wouldn't.

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4 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Hope he doesn’t go to a rival team. 
we always say it but he really will be a nap to score against us 🤣 which will be fkn horrible

Considine popping up with a header at the back post against us would indeed be horrible.

Regarding the 'negotiations', all the toys seem to have been thrown out of the pram very quickly here after one counter offer. It wasn't as if it was an offensively outrageous counter either in comparison to the contracts we've handed out to McGinn, Brown, Devlin (x2) in recent times. 

Considine is too nice to have been the one who leaked any details. Could have been the club, we have history of leaking stuff since Cormack arrived, but I'd guess it was the agent

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Bored of this already.

Admirable longevity, but pretty average really.

We made a fair offer.

He & his agent were unrealistic.

The club & him will move on & supporters need to stop making out we’re losing peak Maldini FFS.

 

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40 minutes ago, Broken_Glass said:

Still bickering over Andy bloody Considine. A man that couldn't even lace Brian Irvine or Russell Anderson's boots never mind our true great defenders.

 

Laughable

Did we not all bicker over countless managers?
managers that couldn’t ‘lace many previous managers boots’ never mind our true great Sir Alex 🤔

 

That’s what we do 🤷‍♂️

 

Your username (& undoubted bickering on that subject) would indeed put you in same bracket you are in fact ridiculing would it not? 
 

🤣

Also worth noting that one of the players you mention has also been discussing the matter in the press 🤣

 

How’s the view up on that high horse? 😉

 

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26 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said:

I only compared it to a normal job in that in neither would you just happily roll over and accept a 50% pay cut because you're coming to the end of your career. Maybe you would but most wouldn't.

50% pay cut? Where does it say that? He was offered a good contract and his agent asked for 50% more and an extra year, so the club rightly told him to fuck off.

As much of a servant as he’s been, good pro, he’s been naive as fuck, badly advised and its cost him dearly.

AFC are due no cunt a living (except maybe God if he needed it imo)

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2 minutes ago, Simply Red said:

50% pay cut? Where does it say that? He was offered a good contract and his agent asked for 50% more and an extra year, so the club rightly told him to fuck off.

As much of a servant as he’s been, good pro, he’s been naive as fuck, badly advised and its cost him dearly.

AFC are due no cunt a living (except maybe God if he needed it imo)

Do you think he asked for 50% more than he was earning before, or 50% more than their offer? The offer they offered could have been more than 50% less than he was earning prior. 
 

Clear you have chosen a side & are sticking to it & have made up your mind the club cannot possibly have been naughty 🤣

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1 hour ago, zeroisgod76 said:

I actually don't think too many people have issues with him being released. Its the way its been handled by the club with the pathetic hunnish statement being released yesterday with insinuations but no context, that has many people turning against a guy who has given 18 years to the club.

What a strange take. Short of actually printing his salary offer, what more context could club have provided? 

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1 hour ago, The D.O.C.1903 said:

I've seen enough and read enough yes

What major flaws in his game did you see that made you think he wouldn't offer more to the team going forward than a slow as fuck, ageing centre half coming back from a major knee injury who hasn't kicked a ball in the best part of a year?

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