Summer 2021

[DD1903]

13 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Folk said we couldn't afford to pay McInnes off. 

Same folk said we couldn't afford Scott Brown. 

Likewise we've been told by posters that we can't afford Gallagher as he'll go to Celtic or the Championship on big wages. That's one still to play out of course. 

I think there is cash there for the right signings. 

 

A couple of million available for hendry?

 

[aberdeen1970]

Just now, DD1903 said:

A couple of million available for hendry?

 

No chance.  A loan maybe at best if his move to Belgium falls through. 

A loan for Lindsay, why not? 

[Ten Caat]

Just now, aberdeen1970 said:

As I said to ww, there is a deal to be made, even if it is a loan initially. 

People thought we couldn't afford to pay off McInnes or afford brown's wages.  They were wrong. 

I suspect that the total cost of Glass plus Brown's wages comes in at pretty much equivalent to that paid to McInnes/Doc.........the only difference being Glass getting about half DM's wage and Brown, with his dual playing/coaching contract massively out earning Doc, possibly (probably even) out earning Glass. For sure Brown has taken a big hit on his wages at Celtic to join up but he's hardly short of a bob or two and we aren't exactly paying him paupers wages. 

McInnes supposedly took a pay-off less than the full amount due. Probably covered by those who were threatening not to renew season tickets if he remained in post now confirming they will renew, even though it's still up in the air as to what sort of crowd level if any will be allowed in come August.

You could be correct about a loan for Lindsay being do-able. But I cannot see any circumstances where he is affordable as a full signing until his Stoke contract ends.

[aberdeen1970]

1 minute ago, Ten Caat said:

I suspect that the total cost of Glass plus Brown's wages comes in at pretty much equivalent to that paid to McInnes/Doc.........the only difference being Glass getting about half DM's wage and Brown, with his dual playing/coaching contract massively out earning Doc, possibly (probably even) out earning Glass. For sure Brown has taken a big hit on his wages at Celtic to join up but he's hardly short of a bob or two and we aren't exactly paying him paupers wages. 

McInnes supposedly took a pay-off less than the full amount due. Probably covered by those who were threatening not to renew season tickets if he remained in post now confirming they will renew, even though it's still up in the air as to what sort of crowd level if any will be allowed in come August.

You could be correct about a loan for Lindsay being do-able. But I cannot see any circumstances where he is affordable as a full signing until his Stoke contract ends.

Cormack keeps talking about using the money smarter. 

I think this might translate to a few choice signings/loans on decent wages supported by young players.  The mls model funnily enough. 

Or in other words less money wasted on players who used to come in as bench fillers and some of that money used to get a better class of first team senior player. 

 

[Ten Caat]

29 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

Are folk not way over-estimating how much we’ll be spending?

Hendry has been quoted at £2m!

Lindsay would be a significant fee too.

Even of Cormack does back Glass with some money, I cannot see it being anywhere near that amount. 

I think £2million is around the figure Glass will receive.......but certainly not to blow on one player. I'd think one or two marquee signings for £500k or so plus another 3 or 4 at between £200/300k and the rest of the incomings on free transfers.

 

[Durrant Dived]

53 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Cormack keeps talking about using the money smarter. 

I think this might translate to a few choice signings/loans on decent wages supported by young players.  The mls model funnily enough. 

Or in other words less money wasted on players who used to come in as bench fillers and some of that money used to get a better class of first team senior player. 

 

So it should be the model. "Prizing" shite like Main with a better offer than his motherwell wage to have him sit on the bench 95% of time is absolutely pointless. 

[Andy_123]

2 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Folk said we couldn't afford to pay McInnes off. 

Same folk said we couldn't afford Scott Brown. 

Likewise we've been told by posters that we can't afford Gallagher as he'll go to Celtic or the Championship on big wages. That's one still to play out of course. 

I think there is cash there for the right signings. 

 

Aye, but the right signings for us tend to be £200-£400k for guys like McLean, Ferguson, McCrorie (Forrester lol) etc when they become available. This is the route i'd like to see us follow more, push the boat out slightly for a better quality player with resale value in the future. 5/6 of those type of signings and we'd be looking pretty good.

I can't see us all of a sudden starting to spend £1m+ on players. As mentioned there are wages in line with the transfer fee to pay as well. Unless Atlanta are going to fund them like they did with Ronnie.

[aberdeen1970]

Just now, Andy_123 said:

Aye, but the right signings for us tend to be £200-£400k for guys like McLean, Ferguson, McCrorie (Forrester lol) etc when they become available. This is the route i'd like to see us follow more, push the boat out slightly for a better quality player with resale value in the future. 5/6 of those type of signings and we'd be looking pretty good.

I can't see us all of a sudden starting to spend £1m+ on players. As mentioned there are wages in line with the transfer fee to pay as well. Unless Atlanta are going to fund them like they did with Ronnie.

I never said we would spend a million on a player. 

I suggested that we would end up with a small group of high earners who would be a bit like the mls 'designated players' 

[Andy_123]

There is certainly scope for the overall wage budget to be used better than McInnes was using it.

I'd rather see a team with 4/5 higher earners who are better players with some promising younger players in and around the team instead of a team full of squad fillers earning £3k a week to be completely average or worse.

[aberdeen1970]

9 minutes ago, Andy_123 said:

There is certainly scope for the overall wage budget to be used better than McInnes was using it.

I'd rather see a team with 4/5 higher earners who are better players with some promising younger players in and around the team instead of a team full of squad fillers earning £3k a week to be completely average or worse.

That is exactly what I was describing. 

 

[Poodler]

Fans Griffiths turning up. Easily the best Scottish striker in a generation. 

[NEM]

3 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Cormack keeps talking about using the money smarter. 

I think this might translate to a few choice signings/loans on decent wages supported by young players.  The mls model funnily enough. 

Or in other words less money wasted on players who used to come in as bench fillers and some of that money used to get a better class of first team senior player. 

 

Be delighted if that's the model we use going forward

[Tord31]

4 hours ago, Ten Caat said:

I think £2million is around the figure Glass will receive.......but certainly not to blow on one player. I'd think one or two marquee signings for £500k or so plus another 3 or 4 at between £200/300k and the rest of the incomings on free transfers.

 

Who knows what is happening but surely this is pie in the sky.

A summer akin to 2017 when we spent £400k on May and 200k on GMS would be more the level I would expect

[paddy]

I always thought it was inevitable that the thumb would head back to Hibs. 

[shooftahmooftah]

1 hour ago, Poodler said:

Fans Griffiths turning up. Easily the best Scottish striker in a generation. 

Get him signed put him on a crash fitness course,  get him to see the light and DELIVERED and you’ve got a new Griffiths.   

[super_al]

4 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Cormack keeps talking about using the money smarter. 

I think this might translate to a few choice signings/loans on decent wages supported by young players.  The mls model funnily enough. 

Or in other words less money wasted on players who used to come in as bench fillers and some of that money used to get a better class of first team senior player. 

 

I 100% agree with you. This IS the model Cormack wants.

[Hunter]

My 2-2=5

In Scotland squads together 2011-2017, out of contract in the summer and now a 1 in 5 striker, please step forward Mr Jordan Rhodes.

[Ten Caat]

1 hour ago, Tord31 said:

Who knows what is happening but surely this is pie in the sky.

A summer akin to 2017 when we spent £400k on May and 200k on GMS would be more the level I would expect

If we are looking to recruit players who are collectively no better than the ones we have right now (and suffer 4th or worse placed finishes for the next 3 seasons) then that is exactly the way to go about it.

There's no point sacking a managerial team and replacing them with another which could well be a gamble....but then not allow that gamble to at least place a few bets along the way. 

[DD1903]

6 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

No chance.  A loan maybe at best if his move to Belgium falls through. 

A loan for Lindsay, why not? 

Exactly 

[sheep123]

Not sure if it’s been mentioned and not a clue about his situation but has hearing snippets of Lewis Morgan coming in earlier today, probably bullshit! He could easy be on a fortune over in America 

[Tord31]

Not a fan of hendry based on his time in scotland anyway. no way we should pay any fee as this season could be a flash in the pan. Celtic will be doing well if the club wants to pay the £2m

[WesthillWanderersFC]

Apologies if this has already been posted

 

[Tord31]

still not convinced griffiths is a good idea. such a waster

[WesthillWanderersFC]

4 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

still not convinced griffiths is a good idea. such a waster

I agree. 
Been overweight for about 2 years. 
He’s 30 but has the body of a 37 year old junior player 

[Tord31]

Just now, WesthillWanderersFC said:

I agree. 
Been overweight for about 2 years. 
He’s 30 but has the body of a 37 year old junior player 

we have capacity for 3-4 strikers. im excited about blowing the budget on a top striker that is going to fit the bill then take any old chumps to make up the numbers probably including anderson

[Zeus]

BHH

Would be like signing a 2021 Noel Whelan. 

[maryhilldon]

Griffiths knows how to hit the target,  don't need to be the fittest or quickest with his instincts and finishing ability.  Get him signed. 

[aberdeen1970]

Aye sign him up. 

Things are going to be very different. Let's buckle in for the ride. 

[super_al]

1 hour ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

Apologies if this has already been posted

 

Who is BSR Sports?

[NEM]

28 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

I agree. 
Been overweight for about 2 years. 
He’s 30 but has the body of a 37 year old junior player 

Looked sharp enough tying Gash in knots in the 3-3 draw up here