sooth_stander Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, Ernie McCracken said: Take Kennedy for example. I never got why people thought he'd be a good signing. Hed scored a few of goals, but all in all he'd only managed 5 assists in 60 games for St Johnstone. That's a rate of 1 assist every 12 games. It should therefore be no surprise that he's done fuck all here. Seriously, what the fuck were AFC thinking?!!! Classic case of a player playing a good game, once, versus AFC. That game where the Saintees had two men sent off at McDermott Park last season, Kennedy scored the equaliser, and we couldn't break them down thereafter.. Link to comment
Redtaz2 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Devantie cole , jet and Watkins , yup I’d be ok with that 1 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Perspective needed though. Yeah we've announced Brown and Gallagher as our first two signings. Everything else is folk getting worked up about media rumours. I recall two recent seasons when McInnes' first summer signings were Gleeson and Forrester Main and Taylor Everyone will have their opinion on Gallagher and Brown (too slow, too old, wrong foot, etc) but imo those two signings are a better first two in the door than the ones listed above. People are too emotional just now. Just hope the rumours are 100% BS & (especially rgds Robertson) it’s just agents trying to get their players noticed/talked about at best. Because if Robertson for one is the caliber of shite we are looking at seriously & with them viewed as ‘only signing players for starting 11’ types, then I seriously have my doubts about the judgments of all involved in sourcing our players. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, Hoofball said: He isn’t injury prone. Grand total of six injuries since the 12/13 season and missed a total of 12 games https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/marley-watkins/verletzungen/spieler/91315 Well that’s complete pish for starters. He missed more than 12 games this season alone. Link to comment
super_al Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 JET would be a great option to have. I would doubt he will be the main striker. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Just now, fine-n-dandy said: Just hope the rumours are 100% BS & (especially rgds Robertson) it’s just agents trying to get their players noticed/talked about at best. Because if Robertson for one is the caliber of shite we are looking at seriously & with them viewed as ‘only signing players for starting 11’ types, then I seriously have by doubts about the judgments of all involved in sourcing our players. That's the problem when you need so many though. The order they come in becomes really important in the eyes of the supporters. For example if anyone other than a bona fide stick on goalscorer who's going to be a guaranteed starter comes in first folk will have kittens on here. We really need to have patience to see the big picture but it's not easy as we don't have visibility of what's going on inside the club. For example, I wouldn't sign Thomas. And as folk have said he isn't a goalscorer. But he can play across the front line and that might make him attractive to our management team. Whether we like/agree with it or not. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Well that’s complete pish for starters. He missed more than 12 games this season alone. Only missed 3 games for us apparently ? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 minute ago, aberdeen1970 said: That's the problem when you need so many though. The order they come in becomes really important in the eyes of the supporters. For example if anyone other than a bona fide stick on goalscorer who's going to be a guaranteed starter comes in first folk will have kittens on here. We really need to have patience to see the big picture but it's not easy as we don't have visibility of what's going on inside the club. For example, I wouldn't sign Thomas. And as folk have said he isn't a goalscorer. But he can play across the front line and that might make him attractive to our management team. Whether we like/agree with it or not. Regardless of when Robertson is signed (if he is) whether it’s next signing or last signing of the window. If there is ANY truth that we are even looking at shite like that (especially this early & not in a plan D,E,F like McInnes) then there is very good reason to be worried & lack faith in our ambitions Clark Robertson was fkn shite. No way he has improved enough to be the kind of CH we would ever be excited about signing. I would be more pissed off at us re-signing a failed FB now CH such as him than I was when McInnes brought fkn Taylor back. like I say. I really hope it’s agent BS Link to comment
Hoofball Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Well that’s complete pish for starters. He missed more than 12 games this season alone. 11 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: Only missed 3 games for us apparently ? Didn’t he return early to Bristol due to his injury. He therefore wouldn’t have been eligible to play for Bristol as returned outside transfer window Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Does one injury caused when Brown jumps on you make a player injury prone? 1 Link to comment
Parklife Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Title secured if we sign Marley Watkins. Link to comment
BonnieDon Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I think that would be good business if we were to sign Watkins on a 2 year deal. He's predominately a winger. Watkins on left wing. Hedges on right wing. McGrath in the attacking mid slot. Any one of Watkins, Marvin Johnson, Devante Cole and Leigh Griffiths would all be welcome signings IMO. 4 Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Another 30+ player, & injury prone. He was good in the 3 months or whatever we had him, but worth the risk? Not sure. Only reason he got injured when here was cos of that totally unneccesary tackle from that fucking reptile Brown, in the Cup semi. Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, theredshed said: Watkins released A no brainer to try and get him signed up for a couple years 3 Link to comment
Torry Tosser Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Parklife said: Title secured if we sign Marley Watkins. Love Scrooge. Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 53 minutes ago, BonnieDon said: I think that would be good business if we were to sign Watkins on a 2 year deal. He's predominately a winger. Watkins on left wing. Hedges on right wing. McGrath in the attacking mid slot. Any one of Watkins, Marvin Johnson, Devante Cole and Leigh Griffiths would all be welcome signings IMO. Bonnie Don that’s great , there’s only one problem. Cormack and Glass, their way of thinking wouldn’t go for it. Just wait for the Atlanta invasion. Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said: Perspective needed though. Yeah we've announced Brown and Gallagher as our first two signings. Everything else is folk getting worked up about media rumours. I recall two recent seasons when McInnes' first summer signings were Gleeson and Forrester Main and Taylor Everyone will have their opinion on Gallagher and Brown (too slow, too old, wrong foot, etc) but imo those two signings are a better first two in the door than the ones listed above. People are too emotional just now. We could have announced Greg Stewart & Peter Pawlett and they would still be better than the ones listed above. ? 1 Link to comment
Torry Tosser Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Redtaz2 said: Devantie cole , jet and Watkins , yup I’d be ok with that Aye,doon sooth in Moo Moo land league 2.? Link to comment
Redtaz2 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, Torry Tosser said: Aye,doon sooth in Moo Moo land league 2.? So you think no improvement on what we’ve got currently , well it’s good we all have differing opinions but for me a definite up grade kamberi and hornby looked like they could improve the team but sadly not Watkins certainty helped us to play better football whilst he was here . the other two have given more issues to teams than we have so that’s my rational Link to comment
Ernie McCracken Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Redtaz2 said: So you think no improvement on what we’ve got currently , well it’s good we all have differing opinions but for me a definite up grade kamberi and hornby looked like they could improve the team but sadly not Watkins certainty helped us to play better football whilst he was here . the other two have given more issues to teams than we have so that’s my rational So, Cole gets injured or suffers a loss of form. Who's scoring the goals? Link to comment
Torry Tosser Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Redtaz2 said: So you think no improvement on what we’ve got currently , well it’s good we all have differing opinions but for me a definite up grade kamberi and hornby looked like they could improve the team but sadly not Watkins certainty helped us to play better football whilst he was here . the other two have given more issues to teams than we have so that’s my rational Take Watkins,the other two not so keen I'm afraid. Link to comment
Sheepo Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Marley Watkins is a no brainer for me especially the way Glass wants to play, Watkins, a Proven Goalscorer and Hedges would be a good front 3 a massive upgrade on Kamberi, Hendry and Hayes 1 Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said: Does one injury caused when Brown jumps on you make a player injury prone? Maybe I’m mixing him up with someone else, but did he not have a bad knee injury a few years back too? Link to comment
slippers Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: Regardless of when Robertson is signed (if he is) whether it’s next signing or last signing of the window. If there is ANY truth that we are even looking at shite like that (especially this early & not in a plan D,E,F like McInnes) then there is very good reason to be worried & lack faith in our ambitions Clark Robertson was fkn shite. No way he has improved enough to be the kind of CH we would ever be excited about signing. I would be more pissed off at us re-signing a failed FB now CH such as him than I was when McInnes brought fkn Taylor back. like I say. I really hope it’s agent BS It’s not bullshit unfortunately. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Can't see any evidence of a bad knee injury, but in 3 seasons with Bristol (minus the time spent on loan with us) he has made a grand total of 29 appearances. And 17 of those were in his first season. Adding in his time with us boosts it up to 42 appearances with a combined total of 5 goals scored. I doubt he will be all that bothered as he signed for Bristol for £1million so will have been earning a salary commensurate with that fee regardless of whatever playing time he got. It suggests to me though that he's probably too big a risk for us to take on, given his age and likely wage demands despite his good form in the short spell he had with us. Link to comment
slippers Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Redtaz2 said: Devantie cole , jet and Watkins , yup I’d be ok with that If we end up with that as a strike force both Glass and Cormack should be hung drawn and quartered for the stuff they have said in media. 1 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I've got a feeling we might end up loaning someone up that end of the pitch. We'd really need to pay a transfer fee for someone to meet the expectations folk have of an acceptable striker which are pretty high. Bringing in someone on a permanent basis that is a recognised goalscorer and not the other side of 30 isn't going to be cheap. Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Redtaz2 said: Devantie cole , jet and Watkins , yup I’d be ok with that Swap JET for Griffiths and we'd probably be in business. Has it been announced if Celtic are keeping him yet? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 27 minutes ago, slippers said: It’s not bullshit unfortunately. ? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: I've got a feeling we might end up loaning someone up that end of the pitch. We'd really need to pay a transfer fee for someone to meet the expectations folk have of an acceptable striker which are pretty high. Bringing in someone on a permanent basis that is a recognised goalscorer and not the other side of 30 isn't going to be cheap. I don’t think our expectations are ‘high’ as such. Just that we have little faith in getting what we SHOULD be entitled to expect at a club like ours. The levels of ‘expectations’ has been strongly shat on for years to a level where we jizz over players like Marley Watkins (an average Caley player in all honesty) as a fantastic signing. punish folk long enough with shite ‘treats’ & they are delighted with even a meager improvement on them. expectations have been very much lowered if anything but the board will class our wishes as ‘unrealistic’ as that is what has been drip fed into the mentality from all angles since the 90’s 1 Link to comment
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