Summer 2021

[fine-n-dandy]

15 hours ago, starryfish said:

Marvin Johnson, once of Motherwell, recently released by Middlesbrough, age 30, might fit the bill.

Far too young, more likely to sign Marvin Andrews 

1 hour ago, Redmist1903 said:

I'm fed up hearing about resale value. Lets just try and get a competitive team on the park next season and worry about signing players with resale value in the next few transfer windows. We don't even have a head of recruitment in place yet for fuck sake

Agree to an extent but only if ALL said older players were actually stand outs worthy of making the team a force because then a lot of the other younger players in the sides value would then be increased anyway also, even if some by default.

We definitely do need to start making some actual signings with some potential sell on value though, even if this means gambling on fees. If the coaching staff actually have enough faith in the older/experience they have signed, these gambles are actually reduced for above reasons. 
Time to show us all they are indeed looking to strengthen the club all around & especially to focus more on youth like they promised. 
 

Not a good start that the only young player they’ve taken in is a loan with likely very little chance of signing FT. 
 

My gripe so far is that they haven’t done a single thing they have promised/teased us with & it was all just sugar coated shite to sell season tickets. Disrespectful of the fans IMO hence why some (certainly me) are saying as much.

 

Cormack needs to make me eat humble pie & I will happily take a slice or two if he is serving up

[Ten Caat]

1 hour ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Sessions. 

Good at doing impersonations, nae quite so good with a ba' at his feet

Also likely to spend a fair amount of time on the treatment table initially. Suffered a bad case of being dead

Pencil him in for a return a few weeks ahead of Devlin 

[NEM]

35 minutes ago, BonnieDon said:

We still have some sellable assets aside from Ferguson. The club are clearly hoping that at the end of this season Campbell, McKenzie and Ramsay progress and hold some value. 

In May, Ryan Hedges expressed interest in signing a new contract. Steve Gunn has supposedly begun initial negotiations with him. I'd imagine it would be a similar situation to when Hayes signed a new deal with the promise we'd sell him in the summer.

 

Gunn needs to get his fucking finger out then - initial negotiations should have started 6 months ago 

[Zander1903]

13 minutes ago, NEM said:

Gunn needs to get his fucking finger out then - initial negotiations should have started 6 months ago 

aye he needs to be tied up on a longer contract, on the condition he loses the hair band if not he can go?

[RED_JOHN]

That’ll sell a few season tickets right enough 

[BonnieDon]

McGrath along with Doyle-Hayes were both absent for the start of St Mirren's preseason.

Doyle-Hayes is set to sign for a club England after rejecting Dundee Utd. 

We might be about to discover if McGrath is signing for us or a club in England.

 

[DD1903]

6 hours ago, slippers said:

That all very well had they not said they are going to sign young players and develop them. 
 

Only way we are going to be able to make solid progress and potentially compete on all fronts is if we sell players. Ferguson is the last player of any value. Once he’s gone we have nothing to sell. If we can work our way up the ladder and eventually be able to sell a players for 5-10m a season that makes a colossal difference to our budget.

It's early days. The plan isn't something that will happen in a few weeks. Glass will need 2 or 3 windows to get things in place 

[Tord31]

8 minutes ago, DD1903 said:

It's early days. The plan isn't something that will happen in a few weeks. Glass will need 2 or 3 windows to get things in place 

I am happy to give him that time but he's got more freedom than any manager in the last 25 years to change the team in the first year. That's quite an advantage. It's not gonna cut it to say McInnes left us in a shambles

[Guest]

1 hour ago, BonnieDon said:

McGrath along with Doyle-Hayes were both absent for the start of St Mirren's preseason.

Doyle-Hayes is set to sign for a club England after rejecting Dundee Utd. 

We might be about to discover if McGrath is signing for us or a club in England.

 

With Jenks coming in I don't think so

[RED_JOHN]

I wouldn’t worry too much with the midfield now….Funso Ojo is back so what more do we need.

[WesthillWanderersFC]

1 hour ago, BonnieDon said:

McGrath along with Doyle-Hayes were both absent for the start of St Mirren's preseason.

Doyle-Hayes is set to sign for a club England after rejecting Dundee Utd. 

We might be about to discover if McGrath is signing for us or a club in England.

 

Was McGrath not playing for Ireland in friendlies?

He’ll just be getting a week or two extra off from the other players, same as Gallagher will be with us. 

[North_Andy_Dandy]

When are we expecting Gallagher in for Pre-season? 

[WesthillWanderersFC]

14 minutes ago, North_Andy_Dandy said:

When are we expecting Gallagher in for Pre-season? 

He’ll be given two weeks maybe after Scotland were papped out, so maybe off until a week tomorrow? 

[Hoofball]

1 hour ago, Tord31 said:

I am happy to give him that time but he's got more freedom than any manager in the last 25 years to change the team in the first year. That's quite an advantage. It's not gonna cut it to say McInnes left us in a shambles

Main problem being covid. Nobody knows if fans will be allowed in stadiums which stops income and causes the purse strings to still be tight.

I’d say McInnes has left the club in a shambles

[North_Andy_Dandy]

13 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

He’ll be given two weeks maybe after Scotland were papped out, so maybe off until a week tomorrow? 

Fair enough I guess, considering he’ll be moving up here and all that.

Any signs of Devlin in training this week or is it looking like we only have 2 cb’s so far?

[WesthillWanderersFC]

Just now, North_Andy_Dandy said:

Fair enough I guess, considering he’ll be moving up here and all that.

Any signs of Devlin in training this week or is it looking like we only have 2 cb’s so far?

Is Devlin even fit? Stupid fucking question with him really. 
They could always use McCrorie there if they had to.

Hopefully another one is brought in 

 

[Tord31]

I'd say we need two centre backs by September; one by August.

It's surely looking like Devlin is going to go elsewhere

[Don_Corleone]

1 hour ago, Tord31 said:

It's surely looking like Devlin is going to go elsewhere

Good. Insane offering plasticine legs a new contract, even if it was just 6 months. The boy can’t manage 6 minutes never mind 6 months without getting injured.

[fine-n-dandy]

Apparently we’re in talks with some guy called Jamie MacDonald. Ex Malta international midfielder.

 

Glass trying to address our pace issues. Hopefully he hasn’t lost his pace with age ?

[Durrant Dived]

48 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Apparently we’re in talks with some guy called Jamie MacDonald. Ex Malta international midfielder.

 

Glass trying to address our pace issues. Hopefully he hasn’t lost his pace with age ?

Prick, I just googled him ?

[RedRichard]

15 minutes ago, StevieT1986 said:

So now that Ramirez has signed, what now? 

Ryan Christie and Kieran Tierney would probably do it. (as in complete the team)

[Ten Caat]

56 minutes ago, StevieT1986 said:

So now that Ramirez has signed, what now? 

Left sided centre back

Right winger

Both under 25 preferably

If/when Ferguson is sold, sign McGrath (assuming no one else has in the interim). And use a chunk of the fee received to also offer Hedges a sensible pay rise with a bonus signing fee included to sweeten the deal. 

Offloading Ojo to anyone who will take him, even if we have to cover up to 75% of his wages would be sensible. 

Lewis probably has enough credit in the bank to give him 6 months to see how he copes in the system Glass wants to use. He must have the captaincy stripped immediately though. But long term I cant see him coping with being an auxiliary sweeper the way many teams now use their goalkeepers when in possession in the oppo half, if that's the way Glass wants to go. And any repeat of the basic goalkeeping fuck ups that have been a regular occurrence in the past 18 months then I'm afraid his time with us should be up (easier said than done given his contract)

[starryfish]

Falkirk looking to take Michael Ruth on loan according to reports.

[thurso]

39 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

Left sided centre back

Right winger

Both under 25 preferably

If/when Ferguson is sold, sign McGrath (assuming no one else has in the interim). And use a chunk of the fee received to also offer Hedges a sensible pay rise with a bonus signing fee included to sweeten the deal. 

Offloading Ojo to anyone who will take him, even if we have to cover up to 75% of his wages would be sensible. 

Lewis probably has enough credit in the bank to give him 6 months to see how he copes in the system Glass wants to use. He must have the captaincy stripped immediately though. But long term I cant see him coping with being an auxiliary sweeper the way many teams now use their goalkeepers when in possession in the oppo half, if that's the way Glass wants to go. And any repeat of the basic goalkeeping fuck ups that have been a regular occurrence in the past 18 months then I'm afraid his time with us should be up (easier said than done given his contract)

If we sold ferguson I’d rather we went and bought the boy McCann from st Johnstone who I read were looking for £1 million for him. He would cost more but I think in the long run we could sell him for more than McGrath 

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

On 6/27/2021 at 9:23 PM, Hoofball said:

I’d say McInnes has left the club in a shambles

Aye I'm struggling to think of a manager who left the club in worse nick. No debt and 4th in the league. Very hard to think of any in the last 30 years

[Tord31]

15 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

Aye I'm struggling to think of a manager who left the club in worse nick. No debt and 4th in the league. Very hard to think of any in the last 30 years

It's not the perfect scenario for a new manager (like perhaps if he'd taken the Sunderland job) but i think its clutching if we are shit this season to roll out the 'its mcinnes' fault excuses'. 

Many a manager would have made a very very good fist at keeping us the same; european places (which is now top 5) and one hampden trip a season. If we bomb way below that level it is because of Cormack and Glass, and certainly not because of McInnes.

[super_al]

Any update on Irvine.

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

27 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

It's not the perfect scenario for a new manager (like perhaps if he'd taken the Sunderland job) but i think its clutching if we are shit this season to roll out the 'its mcinnes' fault excuses'. 

Would have been a lot of pressure for a new manager in 2017.... and a lot of the team left that summer. That would have been a tough time to come in. 

Now, decent squad (by standards of the league) and no debt.... lets be honest its a better start than any other manager has had in my lifetime

[Tord31]

12 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

Would have been a lot of pressure for a new manager in 2017.... and a lot of the team left that summer. That would have been a tough time to come in. 

Now, decent squad (by standards of the league) and no debt.... lets be honest its a better start than any other manager has had in my lifetime

Yes, I think a SPFL merry go round manager would have us achieving what I've said; top six and one hampden trip. 

Cormack picking a different manager, and management team, is aiming for higher than that and fair play. If we underachieve it's because we gambled on not going for a Robinson or a Tommy Wright etc. and accepting a status quo.

[WesthillWanderersFC]

48 minutes ago, super_al said:

Any update on Irvine.

Hopefully not signing,

We have too many central midfielders as it is & I don’t think he’s an upgrade anyway.