Granite95 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Tord31 said: McInnes and Richardson had a fantastic track record of bringing our best players back to the club; Taylor, Hayes, McGinn, Hoban, Leigh etc. oops i forgot Christie and Lowe and probably a few others The first 5 names you mentioned were near enough dog-shit the second time around. Was a fantastic track record as they couldn't identify a good player if they looked at Messi in the flesh Thank god we've got a new HOR in place, hopefully reaps the rewards of that in due course Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Whilst not exactly rocket science, you’d have to say Mainstandmoan (remember there was conjecture as to whether it really was him?) was bang on the money a few weeks ago regarding McGeough and Kennedy and the club looking to bin them. I expected the former to get game time in the new look Glass lineup but with zero minutes in the two Euro matches and not much in the two friendlies, it’s clear his days are numbered. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Tord31 said: McInnes and Richardson had a fantastic track record of bringing our best players back to the club; Taylor, Hayes, McGinn, Hoban, Leigh etc. oops i forgot Christie and Lowe and probably a few others Yep. All either not required at their club at that time m, or out of contract. shinnie was POTY Link to comment
NEM Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Tord31 said: McInnes and Richardson had a fantastic track record of bringing our best players back to the club; Taylor, Hayes, McGinn, Hoban, Leigh etc. oops i forgot Christie and Lowe and probably a few others Fishing surely? Link to comment
Tord31 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I think few folk have missed the joke here. McInnes would move hell and high water to sign his ex players. He wouldn't have cared that Shinnie was or was not unattainable. He'd be targetting him. And he certainly would not have been targetting Cosgrove, as he hated the big man by the end. Link to comment
Hoofball Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, sooth_stander said: Whilst not exactly rocket science, you’d have to say Mainstandmoan (remember there was conjecture as to whether it really was him?) was bang on the money a few weeks ago regarding McGeough and Kennedy and the club looking to bin them. I expected the former to get game time in the new look Glass lineup but with zero minutes in the two Euro matches and not much in the two friendlies, it’s clear his days are numbered. Problem being who would want either, ones injury prone and the others fucking shite. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 No rumours or hints that we're looking to bring anyone else in? or maybe everything's on hold until we know what's happening with Ferguson, the money from his sale would definitely help bring a couple of players in. Regardless, we really do need more backup, we're threadbare at the moment and between injuries and covid, we are only a couple of players out away from being a disaster. Link to comment
slippers Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, StandFree1982 said: No rumours or hints that we're looking to bring anyone else in? or maybe everything's on hold until we know what's happening with Ferguson, the money from his sale would definitely help bring a couple of players in. Regardless, we really do need more backup, we're threadbare at the moment and between injuries and covid, we are only a couple of players out away from being a disaster. Centre back with pace and another striker is a must. If I was greedy I’d also like a creative player . Everywhere else we have adequate back up I think. Could probably move on a handful of players to make room and strengthen our squad. Feel like players like Kennedy and Mcgeouch will be on decent wedge (by our standards) and not play a massive part in team. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I wonder if the Watford set to move for St Mirren's mcgrath is a move by Ferguson's agent. It's bit hard to believe an EPL club would move for a player who has only been full time for 12 months and is 25 in a month. We also should not be paying too much for a player like that Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 59 minutes ago, Tord31 said: I wonder if the Watford set to move for St Mirren's mcgrath is a move by Ferguson's agent. It's bit hard to believe an EPL club would move for a player who has only been full time for 12 months and is 25 in a month. We also should not be paying too much for a player like that I agree. Paying £500K for a player with 12 months left on his contract would be an act of sheet lunacy, and certainly wouldn't fit our "stradagee". Link to comment
thurso Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Tord31 said: I'm hopeful that things will be improving and we'll be more open to signing players from any league going forward. Was talking to a friend about the players we’ve signed and no rumours about any players coming in. With brexit already happened do we not need work permits now for any played outside Britain and if their not internationals they will not get permits and we’re hardly going to be able to afford them or did I pick that up wrong Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, thurso said: Was talking to a friend about the players we’ve signed and no rumours about any players coming in. With brexit already happened do we not need work permits now for any played outside Britain and if their not internationals they will not get permits and we’re hardly going to be able to afford them or did I pick that up wrong Perfectly correct, it’s why we should be demanding more for Ferguson as there is limits on players for EPL and English Championship clubs to go for, the days of robbing Scottish clubs on the cheap should be over Link to comment
BonnieDon Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Doig (who has had one full season of football) could potentially leave for 5 million to Leeds this summer. Personally, I think Ferguson is worth 4-5 million. Curious to hear what others think Ferguson is worth. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, sooth_stander said: I agree. Paying £500K for a player with 12 months left on his contract would be an act of sheet lunacy, and certainly wouldn't fit our "stradagee". I'd say it's £100k overpriced. He is now a full ROI cap though and holding off, trying to get him on a pre-contract in January could well backfire. If the reported Watford interest in him is true, then it's game over anyway.....he isn't turning them down. But paying £100k over the odds now could net us a profit 10 times that figure 18-24 months down the line and I think it's worth the risk. Whilst we still have Ferguson, I can understand why we don't. But we do have a very winnable tie in the Euro Conference 3rd round and getting through that would certainly pay for McGrath outright with the gate monies accrued plus prize money with another gate (hopefully by then in excess of 10k) to come. Link to comment
Dons79 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 36 minutes ago, BonnieDon said: Doig (who has had one full season of football) could potentially leave for 5 million to Leeds this summer. Personally, I think Ferguson is worth 4-5 million. Curious to hear what others think Ferguson is worth. A would be upset if he left for 3 million, a would be delighted for 6-7 million so for me, 5 million is about right 2 Link to comment
Dons79 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 49 minutes ago, The Gee Man said: Perfectly correct, it’s why we should be demanding more for Ferguson as there is limits on players for EPL and English Championship clubs to go for, the days of robbing Scottish clubs on the cheap should be over Priti Patel made the limit of 26500 per annum or you cannot work in Britain as a European!, the club like any business holds the persons right to work in Britain and work visas are obtained through the home office, footballers wages easily make that target. Shouldn’t be a problem in that sector Link to comment
Old Don Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, Dons79 said: A would be upset if he left for 3 million, a would be delighted for 6-7 million so for me, 5 million is about right 5 million is probably a good estimate...if he went for lower than that id be very disappointed...he doesn't seem to enjoy the fact he's playing for a bigger Scottish team as his lack of a committedcelebration showed last week..understandably he wants go progress and we can't be against him for that...bigger status, more money....Scotland place...but it has to be right for us, he is hands down our most gifted player and will be a massive loss so we need to cover like for like so get what he's worth or more Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, Dons79 said: Priti Patel made the limit of 26500 per annum or you cannot work in Britain as a European!, the club like any business holds the persons right to work in Britain and work visas are obtained through the home office, footballers wages easily make that target. Shouldn’t be a problem in that sector Bit more complicated i think, alright for top players who have played over 70% of international games not so easy for others : https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2020/dec/28/football-and-brexit-a-guide-to-the-new-rules Link to comment
thurso Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, The Gee Man said: Perfectly correct, it’s why we should be demanding more for Ferguson as there is limits on players for EPL and English Championship clubs to go for, the days of robbing Scottish clubs on the cheap should be over I’d be thinking then that we don’t be going for many foreigners then, as we won’t be able to get the ones that get work permits easy so will be more British players coming in Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, thurso said: I’d be thinking then that we don’t be going for many foreigners then, as we won’t be able to get the ones that get work permits easy so will be more British players coming in I’m sure there will be exceptions and the market will open up, but it is definitely a different market due to Brexit than a few years ago and we should be taking advantage as a selling club for Ferguson Link to comment
thurso Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, BonnieDon said: Doig (who has had one full season of football) could potentially leave for 5 million to Leeds this summer. Personally, I think Ferguson is worth 4-5 million. Curious to hear what others think Ferguson is worth. The more I watch him the better I think he is. He’s as good as frimpong and ajer who both left Celtic for over 10 million. We will get no where near that but should be getting over 5 million id say 7 million maybe even higher Link to comment
perthshirered Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, thurso said: The more I watch him the better I think he is. He’s as good as frimpong and ajer who both left Celtic for over 10 million. We will get no where near that but should be getting over 5 million id say 7 million maybe even higher Not a single credible soul on earth, when given the choice between signing Ferguson or Ajer, would pick Ferguson. Not one. 1 Link to comment
thurso Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, perthshirered said: Not a single credible soul on earth, when given the choice between signing Ferguson or Ajer, would pick Ferguson. Not one. Probably not because they play different positions and that’s why I didn’t say we should get 13 million for Ferguson but I’d rate him just as highly Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Can see Watford signing McGrath for minimal fee & loaning him back to St’s until end of current contract, maybe we should offer fee & loan him back until Jan. then if we sell Ferguson maybe try get him earlier Link to comment
Bournemouth Gee Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Ferguson is 'worth' what a team will pay for him. Which depends a lot on transfer merry go round kicking off in England in the next few weeks. I think he could easily play in the EPL which makes £3 million total robbery Link to comment
DelMonte Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 18 hours ago, Tord31 said: Someone said they were skint? And of course he's going no where until McInnes gets a new job anyway why you two picking up on whether shinnie would sign for us as opposed to mcinnes not being the manager What the fuck are you on about? Link to comment
Bournemouth Gee Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Would Hamilton be due anything if Ferguson goes? Link to comment
RED_JOHN Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, Bournemouth Gee said: Would Hamilton be due anything if Ferguson goes? Not a cent Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, Bournemouth Gee said: Would Hamilton be due anything if Ferguson goes? Yes Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 56 minutes ago, Bournemouth Gee said: Would Hamilton be due anything if Ferguson goes? Development fees I think it’s called Link to comment
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