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3 hours ago, Millertime said:

We don't play wide players m8

Nobody really does but you know what I mean 

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emphasis on quality sounds good from Cormack relating to the working on one or two things.

Hopefully not rocking up with Callum Hendry then

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the not signing extra strikers and defenders is hard to get used to. mcinnes way of making up the squad is the same as his tactics on the pitch he was very risk averse and would be thinking ahead to what if we lose that player ... i'll be forced to play a youngster... cant do that

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1 minute ago, Tord31 said:

emphasis on quality sounds good from Cormack relating to the working on one or two things.

Hopefully not rocking up with Callum Hendry then

He also stressed we've a big squad of 25 players as well so I'd be thinking the only way we'd be taking any in is if we shipped a few out. Ferguson will go if a decent bid comes in and If Ojo is back in the picture I'd think we'll be trying to move on McGeogh. Kennedy needs to go too. Thats three to go out which could let us take in another striker, winger and centre half.

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3 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

emphasis on quality sounds good from Cormack relating to the working on one or two things.

Hopefully not rocking up with Callum Hendry then

Why would you pick him as an example when we had two strikers on loan last season that were a lot worse? 

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53 minutes ago, Millertime said:

We sold mckenna for 3.5m and Cosgrove for 2m

How many times should we be doing that do you think?

And prior to that who since even 2000 have we sold for decent money? Not many; Anderson went for peanuts, Hayes to celtic is about it.  We should be buying a Mclean/Mcgrath/cosgrove/Ferguson and developing and selling for multi-millions every 2-3 seasons IMO. 

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6 minutes ago, Studebaker-90 said:

Why would you pick him as an example when we had two strikers on loan last season that were a lot worse? 

Because maybe he’s the only one of the three that’s been touted as a possible 3rd striker 
 

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4 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

Because maybe he’s the only one of the three that’s been touted. 
 

Has he been? Fair enough. I think he did okay in his time here, not to the standards of JET and Ramirez though. A travesty that he was our most able striker for the second half of last season.  

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9 minutes ago, Studebaker-90 said:

Why would you pick him as an example when we had two strikers on loan last season that were a lot worse? 

Because he is the most realistic but yes i could have said the other two also.

Hopefully its a genuine comment and we will be signing players but holding out for quality additions

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If Calum Hendry came in after last night it would be a bit of an anti climax. 

We need someone that can play in the first team every week to give us good options and allow us to mix things up.  Not a "3rd/4th" choice squad filler that you know isn't going to be a game changer for us if and when he does actually get a game. 

There's plenty games plus injuries, suspensions etc in a season for a core group to get decent game time. 

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1 hour ago, Bournemouth Gee said:

Pace. Pace. Pace.

Those 3 things are the one thing we need imo

 

 

 

Handy that Hale. Hale. Hale has split up the partnership so he must be a free agent

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19 hours ago, Durrant Dived said:

And prior to that who since even 2000 have we sold for decent money? Not many; Anderson went for peanuts, Hayes to celtic is about it.  We should be buying a Mclean/Mcgrath/cosgrove/Ferguson and developing and selling for multi-millions every 2-3 seasons IMO. 

I think we should be doing it every year,  we should be slashing out a few hundred thousand on a player to improve and sell on and we should also be selling a player we got cheap or through or system for more than we got him every season that’s how we improve hopefully 

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McGrath. 

24. Almost a ratio of 1 in 3 playing for St Mirren. Just broken into the international squad. 

Perfect for that left midfield position Ojo was in on Thursday night. 

Probably get him for about 500k which is a the equivalent of couple of home European gates. 

No brainer.  

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29 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

McGrath. 

24. Almost a ratio of 1 in 3 playing for St Mirren. Just broken into the international squad. 

Perfect for that left midfield position Ojo was in on Thursday night. 

Probably get him for about 500k which is a the equivalent of couple of home European gates. 

No brainer.  

We certainly need a reliable penalty taker for when Ferguson gets sold

McGrath becoming a full Irish international has bumped up his price and St Mirren are a well run club who don't need the money, they could afford to keep him until his contract runs out if they so choose. On balance, I think they'll bite at £500k as you say. That would allow them to go shopping for a replacement in the Championship or lower English leagues. But will we get usurped by another team whilst we dither??

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44 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

McGrath. 

24. Almost a ratio of 1 in 3 playing for St Mirren. Just broken into the international squad. 

Perfect for that left midfield position Ojo was in on Thursday night. 

Probably get him for about 500k which is a the equivalent of couple of home European gates. 

No brainer.  

Were we thinking that Ojo and Hedges played exactly the same position on opposite sides or was it lop sided. Was hard to tell exactly from my vantage point.

Brown

Hedges Ferguson Ojo

JET

Ramirez

??

Although at times it looked like a straight two up front

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3 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

Were we thinking that Ojo and Hedges played exactly the same position on opposite sides or was it lop sided. Was hard to tell exactly from my vantage point.

Brown

Hedges Ferguson Ojo

JET

Ramirez

??

Although at times it looked like a straight two up front

To me it was like a 4-4-2 diamond 

                    Lewis

Ramsay McCrorie Considine Hayes     
                    Brown

       Hedges              Ojo

                   Ferguson

               JET Ramirez 

      

 

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3 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

Were we thinking that Ojo and Hedges played exactly the same position on opposite sides or was it lop sided. Was hard to tell exactly from my vantage point.

Brown

Hedges Ferguson Ojo

JET

Ramirez

??

Although at times it looked like a straight two up front

I thought that Hedges and Jet had a fairly free role behind Ramirez. 

And Ojo and Ferguson were playing more advanced in centre midfield with Brown sitting. 

But it's sometimes harder to tell on the telly than when you're in the stadium so those that were there might have a better take. 

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59 minutes ago, thurso said:

I think we should be doing it every year,  we should be slashing out a few hundred thousand on a player to improve and sell on and we should also be selling a player we got cheap or through or system for more than we got him every season that’s how we improve hopefully 

Great thinking - buy low, sell high. I hope your application for Head of Recruitment has been submitted?

I’d like to hear your thoughts on how we should win matches? Score more goals than the opposition?

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2 hours ago, thurso said:

I think we should be doing it every year,  we should be slashing out a few hundred thousand on a player to improve and sell on and we should also be selling a player we got cheap or through or system for more than we got him every season that’s how we improve hopefully 

Agreed. I just meant develop the player for 2/3 years and sell on for profit. But we should be doing it as much as possible. 

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From what I saw, the formation looked like this:

 

                             Lewis

Ramsay   McCrorie  Considine  Hayes

              Ferguson  Brown   Ojo

                      Hedges   JET

                             Ramirez

 

Brown sitting deeper than Ojo and Ferguson, JET occasionally switching between attacking midfielder and striker. 

 

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1 hour ago, theredshed said:

From what I saw, the formation looked like this:

 

                             Lewis

Ramsay   McCrorie  Considine  Hayes

              Ferguson  Brown   Ojo

                      Hedges   JET

                             Ramirez

 

Brown sitting deeper than Ojo and Ferguson, JET occasionally switching between attacking midfielder and striker. 

 

It was a 4-1-3-2 we were playing most of the evening. 

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4 hours ago, 1983 said:

Great thinking - buy low, sell high. I hope your application for Head of Recruitment has been submitted?

I’d like to hear your thoughts on how we should win matches? Score more goals than the opposition?

Pretty obvious that’s how every match should be won. Simple really 

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3 hours ago, Durrant Dived said:

Agreed. I just meant develop the player for 2/3 years and sell on for profit. But we should be doing it as much as possible. 

Yes we’ve lost to many players for nothing. As much as Iv loved them playing for us we made nothing. Only now and again should one of our best players be leaving for nothing. Not every season like before. Maybe Jim mclean had the right idea with his 10 year contracts 😂

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Defence & up front we need strengthened for sure.

only a couple of injuries (or COVID cases/close contacts) away from real crisis in those areas.

So we have to take in another decent striker & CH.

regardless of if we offload any players or not. If we do offload/sell players then they should then also be replaced

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3 hours ago, theredshed said:

From what I saw, the formation looked like this:

 

                             Lewis

Ramsay   McCrorie  Considine  Hayes

              Ferguson  Brown   Ojo

                      Hedges   JET

                             Ramirez

 

Brown sitting deeper than Ojo and Ferguson, JET occasionally switching between attacking midfielder and striker. 

 

JET spent most of the night up top as a 2.  Despite his jokey manner, Steve Tosh on Redtv correctly pointed out that Haken got back into the match after the 3rd goal when JET dropped deeper, leaving Ramirez isolated.  After they scored JET was pushed right back up front and we took control again.  A mix of 442 and 4132.

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Right if we could get two realistic “quality additions” in the door yet similar to DC suggested who would everybody pick?

 

Id go Jason Kerr, then either McCann (maybe too expensive) or McGrath.

Then Zak Rudden as a wild card forward player. Added this as we need another forward but I’d get the “quality” additions in CD n CM.

 

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8 minutes ago, ThomohawkKid said:

Right if we could get two realistic “quality additions” in the door yet similar to DC suggested who would everybody pick?

 

Id go Jason Kerr, then either McCann (maybe too expensive) or McGrath.

Then Zak Rudden as a wild card forward player. Added this as we need another forward but I’d get the “quality” additions in CD n CM.

 

Going by newspaper and mainstandmoan speculation, and dissecting what Cormack said at half time, you’d hazard at guess at the 2 players being Jason Kerr and Jamie McGrath. £1m for them two?

Clearly waiting for Kennedy and McGeough to depart and free up wages, and Ferguson to bring in a substantial transfer fee.

Still means we must be looking at another forward player.

May be way off the mark here but I reckon Ferguson will stay another season, looked reenergised the other night, alongside Brown. He might just think another year and then he’ll get better offers?

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58 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Do you seriously think that any clubs don't want to do that?

You are massively over simplifying it 

So if it’s the model all clubs should be doing and we all know it’s not an exact science as more duds than stars why are you arguing about people suggesting this is the model we should follow?? Is it just for the argument some say left so you say right!!

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