WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 No surprise this. Best for him he moves down a league where he’s at his level & will play every week… Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Is the Virtanen situation a loan or a permanent one? Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Just now, aberdeen1970 said: Is the Virtanen situation a loan or a permanent one? Not sure - “open talks” suggests permanent? I think we’d release him so no fee involved Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Just now, WesthillWanderersFC said: Not sure - “open talks” suggests permanent? I think we’d release him so no fee involved We'd be due him a year's wages then? Link to comment
Guest Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: We'd be due him a year's wages then? Wouldn't think so if free to go without a fee. New club can pay his wages. Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: We'd be due him a year's wages then? Well minus his yearly wage would be at the new club. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Just now, dazzy_deff said: Well minus his yearly wage would be at the new club. Aye, if he agrees which he probably would. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Not a reliable source at all, but I’ll post it anyway.. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 He was so good for Arbroath it's a shame he wouldn't get another go there but I guess it's obvious if he has the chance of a full time club he is going to take that chance. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Not a reliable source at all, but I’ll post it anyway.. That's a blow if true. Its not often we pick up someone with his ability on a free and we're unlikely to get a fee which would compensate for his loss. You would like to think that we wouldn't want it to be seen that our new head of recruitment is letting players go to his brother's club on the cheap so maybe a chance of some extra cash there. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Best for all concerned if Virtanen moves on. Signing Gurr put paid to him being the back up to Ramsay at right back (and McCrorie is also there if necessary). And we have an absolute surfeit of midfielders so getting a game there was going to be well nigh impossible too. I hope we use the money saved to offer Ramsay a new contract until 2026 and doubling (maybe trebling) his wages in doing so. That would give us long term security so that if he has a season like the young Hibs loon has just had, if/when big English clubs come sniffing we can ask for similar cash as Hibs are about to rake in. 1 Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: I hope we use the money saved to offer Ramsay a new contract until 2026 and doubling (maybe trebling) his wages in doing so. That would give us long term security so that if he has a season like the young Hibs loon has just had, if/when big English clubs come sniffing we can ask for similar cash as Hibs are about to rake in. Said the same on another post. Double his wage and get another 2 years security is a no brainer before he continues to improve each week. Link to comment
Rico1903 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said: Is the Virtanen situation a loan or a permanent one? According to reports club and player are open to both. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Rico1903 said: According to reports club and player are open to both. Cheers min Link to comment
paddy Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Am I wrong, or did Virtanen not recently sign a new contract? Link to comment
Geoff_Tipps Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, paddy said: Am I wrong, or did Virtanen not recently sign a new contract? Signed a 1 year contract in April 2021. Must have the same agent as Devlin. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Surely it's Virtanen that's asked if he can move on? He must have realised by now he's not getting a sniff here this season. Link to comment
frankie_mac's_4 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Ten Caat said: I hope we use the money saved to offer Ramsay a new contract until 2026 and doubling (maybe trebling) his wages in doing so. That would give us long term security so that if he has a season like the young Hibs loon has just had, if/when big English clubs come sniffing we can ask for similar cash as Hibs are about to rake in. Nonsense. The boy's on his first professional contract - random shouts of 'doubling or trebling' his wage guarantees nothing because he'll still likely be way off regular 1st team terms. Anything pocketed aff Virtanen's contract likely won't meet that either. When he's nailed himself down as 1st choice starter (this season looks promising, but he's nae there yet) then you offer him wages on 1st team terms on the extended contract and convince him his career is best served by staying at Pittodrie through to 2026. He's an Aberdeen boy, at 17 /18 now he and his family should get it - if they don't he'll be offski 1st contract offer anyway Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Virtanen is off to Hamilton. Good luck to the lad. Link to comment
starryfish Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 10 hours ago, sooth_stander said: Virtanen is off to Hamilton. Good luck to the lad. Strange that he signed a new contract under Glass back in April and is away just four months later. Link to comment
Jackp Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I think our transfers will come down to if we qualify for the group stages, strong enough squad to get us there just now and then if we do qualify for them get rid of the deadwood like kennedy mcgeough and bring in 3 quality players like Jason kerr another creative player and a striker Link to comment
Rico1903 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jackp said: I think our transfers will come down to if we qualify for the group stages, strong enough squad to get us there just now and then if we do qualify for them get rid of the deadwood like kennedy mcgeough and bring in 3 quality players like Jason kerr another creative player and a striker Glass pretty much saying as much. Dependant on progress in Europe or sending players out on loan. However, given Cormack revealed that they're working on a couple of deals perhaps Glass is just playing his cards closer to his chest than Cormack. https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/3364405/aberdeen-set-to-offer-ryan-hedges-new-deal/ Link to comment
Bournemouth Gee Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 We are undoubtedly seeking another striker. We're ludicrously short up top. Bit like myself Link to comment
Don_Corleone Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Jackp said: I think our transfers will come down to if we qualify for the group stages, strong enough squad to get us there just now and then if we do qualify for them get rid of the deadwood like kennedy mcgeough and bring in 3 quality players like Jason kerr another creative player and a striker I think we need a central defender, attacking midfielder / winger, and striker. The more I think about it, the less sure I am that any defender coming in will actually walk straight into the team (Gallagher hasn't even walked straight into the team) - so I'm not actually sure it'll be someone like Jason Kerr... I can't see him dropping Considine, and I imagine that eventually Gallagher will come in alongside him. I also think he will be quite happy using McCrorie there. We definitely need another defender, but I can't see us paying a few hundred thousand pounds and a big wage on someone not guaranteed to start every week. I would guess we might end up with 3 players of the calibre of someone like JET, as opposed to Gallagher, Brown, Ramirez standard signings. This will obviously change if Ferguson and / or Hedges are sold - we'll need to bring in top players to replace them in the starting line up. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I'm not convinced he's gonna sign a defender now. We've still not used Gallagher, Ngwenya and Devlin (no laughing at the back) Right backs - Ramsay, Gurr and McCrorie Left backs - Hayes, Mackenzie, Ngwenya and Considine Centre backs - Gallagher, Considine, McCrorie and Devlin (and Hancock and Turner) I think he's just going to wing it with those guys. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Tord31 said: I'm not convinced he's gonna sign a defender now. We've still not used Gallagher, Ngwenya and Devlin (no laughing at the back) Right backs - Ramsay, Gurr and McCrorie Left backs - Hayes, Mackenzie, Ngwenya and Considine Centre backs - Gallagher, Considine, McCrorie and Devlin (and Hancock and Turner) I think he's just going to wing it with those guys. Suits me. I'd rather see a couple of attacking players come in if it comes down to a choice. Link to comment
Dave Bus Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Just sign McGrath , then we won’t need anyone else Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 7 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said: Suits me. I'd rather see a couple of attacking players come in if it comes down to a choice. I think we saw tonight precisely why another CH is required. Although I do concede that a back up for Ramirez is also needed. If he gets injured we are fucked Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: I think we saw tonight precisely why another CH is required. Although I do concede that a back up for Ramirez is also needed. If he gets injured we are fucked Aye, to go alongside Gallagher. Considine should be first back up & McCrorie isn’t strong enough to be a centre half. The way he defended their first goal, he looked like a midfielder playing at centre half. To be fair, he played better in a back 3 & I’d be ok with that, but not one of 2 centre halves in a back 4. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: I think we saw tonight precisely why another CH is required. Although I do concede that a back up for Ramirez is also needed. If he gets injured we are fucked Ach strap yourselves in for the ride. Let's just outscore everyone. Life's too short to worry about defenders. 2 2 Link to comment
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