elephantstone78 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, caledonia said: Annie wells gets back in with only 2687 votes Where was that cale? v low turnout compared to most places. Therefore guessing it’s some rough bit of Glasgow ? Link to comment
Parklife Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jocky Balboa said: Did you even read what I've said? The SNP leadership have no plan / intention of pursuing independence after Johnson simply tells them to piss off (and future UK PMs will do the same, whether Labour or Tory, as none will want to go down in history as the one who lost the Union). They should have gone to the highest courts in the land - and if necessary, the Council of Europe and even the UN, whose charter clearly states the right of self-determination is inalienable. Martin Keating has been pursuing what Sturgeon and Murrell should have been in 2016-17, yet they obstructed this court action. Why would they do that? Scotland has the country it deserves now and I can only hope the people wake up before the next election. Did you read what I said? Why do you want pro-Indy folk to do? You're slating us from your foreign home, demanding we apologise. What the fuck do you want us to do? 1 Link to comment
elephantstone78 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bluto10 said: what’s ‘Hutchy’? Hutcheson grammar private school Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, elephantstone78 said: Hutcheson grammar private school aye cheers. I know that. just wondering why he’s given it a pet name Link to comment
Geoff_Tipps Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: You couldn't You clearly don't understand the formula how the list candidates get appointed I know how it works. But if you were to add all the votes for Alba or Green to the SNP totals in each region, surely that would increase the number of votes once it was divided by constituency number? Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said: Correct. I couldn't answer him because he's a fake. He's a pretend alcoholic. “Fake” \ “Pretend” hardman ? Link to comment
shut up meg Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, Jocky Balboa said: Did you even read what I've said? The SNP leadership have no plan / intention of pursuing independence after Johnson simply tells them to piss off (and future UK PMs will do the same, whether Labour or Tory, as none will want to go down in history as the one who lost the Union). They should have gone to the highest courts in the land - and if necessary, the Council of Europe and even the UN, whose charter clearly states the right of self-determination is inalienable. Martin Keating has been pursuing what Sturgeon and Murrell should have been in 2016-17, yet they obstructed this court action. Why would they do that? Scotland has the country it deserves now and I can only hope the people wake up before the next election. Divide and conquer has always been the way of the establishment, I understand your frustration but there is no serious alternative to the SNP right now. Breaking up the SNP vote will be cheered all the way by the unionists. Link to comment
caledonia Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 Mid Scotland and Fife returned SNP 0 conservative 4 Labour 2 Greens 1 from the following votes Link to comment
The Buzzard Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, caledonia said: Mid Scotland and Fife returned SNP 0 conservative 4 Labour 2 Greens 1 from the following votes That's the way it goes though, Caley. I like this system. 2 Link to comment
DD1903 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, Bluto10 said: aye cheers. I know that. just wondering why he’s given it a pet name It's been called/known as 'hutchy' for years. Link to comment
elephantstone78 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, The Buzzard said: That's the way it goes though, Caley. I like this system. Yep. Much much fairer than fptp Link to comment
shut up meg Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 32 minutes ago, Geoff_Tipps said: I know how it works. But if you were to add all the votes for Alba or Green to the SNP totals in each region, surely that would increase the number of votes once it was divided by constituency number? In the north east, I think it would have given the tories another seat. Link to comment
elephantstone78 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Didn’t know Brian whittle ex Olympian and relay gold medal winner is a Tory msp. Link to comment
shut up meg Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, The Buzzard said: That's the way it goes though, Caley. I like this system. Agree, if you vote for a major party (avoiding crackpots like the family party and Alba) then at least you have a good chance of someone in your area representing your views in parliament. Link to comment
Geoff_Tipps Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, shut up meg said: In the north east, I think it would have given the tories another seat. But in South Scotland it may have given them two instead of one and the majority they were after. Link to comment
caledonia Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 List MSPs with one region to declare Link to comment
shut up meg Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Geoff_Tipps said: But in South Scotland it would have given them two instead of one and the majority they were after. I agree, they should have played the game better. The SNP/SNP right across the country was pure vanity. There was no chance that they would win list seats in Glasgow, North East and parts of the central belt. Link to comment
elephantstone78 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, shut up meg said: I agree, they should have played the game better. The SNP/SNP right across the country was pure vanity. There was no chance that they would win list seats in Glasgow, North East and parts of the central belt. Nigh on impossible for a party to openly advocate voters vote for someone else. maybe at a local level during door knocking etc. snp 1 short of majority. Still a good result. what’s the deal with the Tory msp on Lothian list he looks like he’s at death’s door and seems to have a hand like bill Murray’s character from kingpin Link to comment
Jocky Balboa Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 51 minutes ago, Parklife said: Did you read what I said? Why do you want pro-Indy folk to do? You're slating us from your foreign home, demanding we apologise. What the fuck do you want us to do? I made no such *demand*. I asked, rhetorically, if the woke SNP types who parrot the leadership's propaganda would have the decency to apologise if and when they were proved wrong. I still fail to see why outside observers conclude that the SNP will deliver on this "mandate" when they have failed to deliver on every electoral victory since 2016, especially when (a) the UK PM is not legally compelled to do anything other than say no and (b) the SNP heirarchy have already ruled out any method other than the fabled gold standard Section 30 order. 34 minutes ago, shut up meg said: Divide and conquer has always been the way of the establishment, I understand your frustration but there is no serious alternative to the SNP right now. Breaking up the SNP vote will be cheered all the way by the unionists. There was a distinct alternative this time - SNP 1, Alba 2. If just a quarter or so SNP list votes went that way, we'd have several Alba MSP's now, all motivated and committed independence supporters, ready to take the fight to both the Murrells and the Unionist establishment. We'd have the added bonus of having decimated the careerist list MSP roster. It was at least a glimmer of hope. ...alas, we are now heading for another half-decade of the status quo and John Mason didn't even wait a day or two before announcing it can all wait a decade. They're not even covert about their contempt for the voters anymore. Link to comment
NEM Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 A real rollercoaster between national and hat politics this thread ? 1 Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 27 minutes ago, DD1903 said: It's been called/known as 'hutchy' for years. perhaps. wouldn’t know, not gone across the school for 24 years but a strange term for an outsider to use. a humble honest hardworking NEM (not you @NEM wouldn’t use that middle class friendly keep up with the joneses lingo surely? 1 Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, rocket_scientist said: I lived directly overlooking the place in the first property I bought in Glasgow. It adjoined the "Titwood" cricket club (where Scotland played), cricket being a fucking joke to most of us but you Ellon nothing tories love a bit of it. How's your battle for who drinks the most going? You're really proud of this aren't you? interesting you mention cricket. and ellon. how’s your neighbour? ? ellon > portlethen Link to comment
Parklife Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, Jocky Balboa said: I made no such *demand*. I asked, rhetorically, if the woke SNP types who parrot the leadership's propaganda would have the decency to apologise if and when they were proved wrong. I still fail to see why outside observers conclude that the SNP will deliver on this "mandate" when they have failed to deliver on every electoral victory since 2016, especially when (a) the UK PM is not legally compelled to do anything other than say no and (b) the SNP heirarchy have already ruled out any method other than the fabled gold standard Section 30 order. I asked and I ask again; what do you want us to do? Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said: I don't understand, fuck pig? Neither about my neighbour nor the town I don't live in. am pulling your leg rs, hence the smiley, but I’m sure you understand my post. unlike you of course I use a smiley. you incessantly insult me or the town I grew up in (weirdly cause it’s better than where you live) Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 there’s a smiley above RS min. chill. Link to comment
The Buzzard Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 37 minutes ago, Jocky Balboa said: I made no such *demand*. I asked, rhetorically, if the woke SNP types who parrot the leadership's propaganda would have the decency to apologise if and when they were proved wrong. I still fail to see why outside observers conclude that the SNP will deliver on this "mandate" when they have failed to deliver on every electoral victory since 2016, especially when (a) the UK PM is not legally compelled to do anything other than say no and (b) the SNP heirarchy have already ruled out any method other than the fabled gold standard Section 30 order. There was a distinct alternative this time - SNP 1, Alba 2. If just a quarter or so SNP list votes went that way, we'd have several Alba MSP's now, all motivated and committed independence supporters, ready to take the fight to both the Murrells and the Unionist establishment. We'd have the added bonus of having decimated the careerist list MSP roster. It was at least a glimmer of hope. ...alas, we are now heading for another half-decade of the status quo and John Mason didn't even wait a day or two before announcing it can all wait a decade. They're not even covert about their contempt for the voters anymore. Careerist MSPs isn't solely a preserve of list Members. There's a few in the Governing party who could go a few sessions being elected every time and making no meaningful impact other than to turn up and vote the way they are told every week. Link to comment
Arabian Knight Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bluto10 said: am pulling your leg rs, hence the smiley, but I’m sure you understand my post. unlike you of course I use a smiley. you incessantly insult me or the town I grew up in (weirdly cause it’s better than where you live) ^ clingin oantae coattails o cunts fechtin ez bettle..fuckin whimperin parasite cunt 2 Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 See the bloody Tories. They've given the impression that a lot of people in the north of england are extremely well off. Or, like fox news viewers and truth seekers, they think they are well off and live their lives vicariously through all these politicians that went to school at Eton. Labour are piss poor, but I can't fathom how a lot of northern people that have no reason to vote for the Tories, do. Got to be down to xenophobia and ww2. 2 Link to comment
caledonia Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 952,896 Second votes total for the SNP but only 2 MSPs out of it. Link to comment
caledonia Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, tightbreeks said: See the bloody Tories. They've given the impression that a lot of people in the north of england are extremely well off. Or, like fox news viewers and truth seekers, they think they are well off and live their lives vicariously through all these politicians that went to school at Eton. Labour are piss poor, but I can't fathom how a lot of northern people that have no reason to vote for the Tories, do. Got to be down to xenophobia and ww2. Stammer was asked on Sky News about the Hartlepool result but he abstained on answering. Link to comment
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