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  1. 1. Who will you be voting for come the Scottish Elections in May



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2 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

I’ve never licked a bum hole . Not my cup of tea at all . 

Nonsense.heard that was a favoured pastime of yours!

sitting painting a wee picture while tongue punching some weegie skank, giving it kidney punches as you go.finishing the evening by drinking your chateauneuf du pape and cigar in the study.pleased with yourself ???

dont kid on hanz, those artists are dark creatures ?

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55 minutes ago, sheepcrooky said:

I think early ABZ airport was where the heliport is now. Not too far from the choo choo station. When the airport got busier and moved, our illustrious city planning department never thought of adding a new 500m ((ish) link. 

Correct, the old terminal was located at Farburn Terrace. 

Usual ACC fuck up by relocating the new terminal the other side of the airport away from the railway line.

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32 minutes ago, sheepcrooky said:

Yep, The Spiders is a decent pub. Used to work in Dyce for Weatherford and many a Friday we would start there before heading into town on the train. Happy days. 

casing hand ? I was with them for 10 years , first 5 were a blast . Spiders or the 4 mile was often the first port of call after coming off a job , then into toon 

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13 minutes ago, Bad_Mobby said:

What happened the last 5 RS? 
 

Just got a bit fed up with it , was never at home , working 20 plus days a month offshore , crews were cut so the roughnecks had to do the stabbing . Made the right move in the end but had some fun times working for them 

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11 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Looks like SNP will make gains in the constituencies. 

Hopefully plenty SNP 1st voters voted Green or Alba 2nd vote. 

SNP smashing it !! Whats the significance of the second vote Parky ? Proportional representation , they tried to explain it on the radio very confusing 

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22 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Looks like SNP will make gains in the constituencies. 

Hopefully plenty SNP 1st voters voted Green or Alba 2nd vote. 

Labour 2nd for me. More important things to worry about than independence at this precise moment in time. 

Voted Yes in 2014 FWIW. 

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11 minutes ago, redstrummer said:

SNP smashing it !! Whats the significance of the second vote Parky ? Proportional representation , they tried to explain it on the radio very confusing 

Yeah. Essentially the number of list votes you have is divided by the number of MSP's you already have in each region. 

For example: Theres 8 constituencies in glasgow. Last time snp won all 8, so their list total was divided by 8. All other parties had 0 seats, so there's remained the full number. So the SNP got no list seats. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

no one would have been surprised had she went for the arsehole

I'd have thought she preferred train stations

Or fannies

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19 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Yeah. Essentially the number of list votes you have is divided by the number of MSP's you already have in each region. 

For example: Theres 8 constituencies in glasgow. Last time snp won all 8, so their list total was divided by 8. All other parties had 0 seats, so there's remained the full number. So the SNP got no list seats. 

 

Thanks for trying , it's a bit of a head fuck though 

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11 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Yeah. Essentially the number of list votes you have is divided by the number of MSP's you already have in each region. 

For example: Theres 8 constituencies in glasgow. Last time snp won all 8, so their list total was divided by 8. All other parties had 0 seats, so there's remained the full number. So the SNP got no list seats. 

 

Not quite parkie, they +1 on the seats won on the constituency votes and divide the list votes by that number.

So in Glasgow 2016, SNP won all FPTP seats and their list vote of 111k was divided by 10.

As all the other parties had no seats, their list votes was divided by 1, SLAB was next on the list with 59k and they picked up the 1st list seat.

In the 2nd round, SLAB 59k votes was divided by 2 ( as they now had a list member) which was less than the Tories 29k, therefore the Tories took the 2nd list seat.

They then use this formula all the way down to till they fill the 7 list members.

22 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

SNP 1&2 for yer man Soops. Did you see wee Nicola dealing with that Nazi cunt ?  Top leader. She was being provoked to smash the cunts face in and no one would have been surprised had she went for the arsehole. 

You've probably wasted your 2nd vote soops.

I went SNP/Greens here in Aberdeen Donside.

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2 minutes ago, shut up meg said:

 

Not quite parkie, they +1 on the seats won on the constituency votes and divide the list votes by that number.

So in Glasgow 2016, SNP won all FPTP seats and their list vote of 111k was divided by 10.

As all the other parties had no seats, their list votes was divided by 1, SLAB was next on the list with 59k and they picked up the 1st list seat.

In the 2nd round, SLAB 59k votes was divided by 2 ( as they now had a list member) which was less than the Tories 29k, therefore the Tories took the 2nd list seat.

They then use this formula all the way down to till they fill the 7 list members.

You've probably wasted your 2nd vote soops.

I went SNP/Greens here in Aberdeen Donside.

Thanks for explaining it better ?

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I wonder how long some of the newly re-elected SNP candidates will wait before defecting to Alba? I think a few have probably already decided beforehand, but are taking the easy option of riding on an SNP ticket until after they're over the line. Others will likely jump ship when they see the Murrells continue to kick Indyref2 into the long grass. Whatever the result for Alba this time, their story isn't over and has likely just started to get interesting.

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No worries, the vanity of the SNP leadership in pushing the SNP/SNP vote will possibly could cost the independence parties an overall majority.

In the north east and Glasgow, voting SNP list is probably a wasted vote.

 

Edit: in reply to parkie

Edit 2: They will get an overall majority, I meant a resounding overall majority by denying Alba or Greens seats.

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18 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Yeah. Essentially the number of list votes you have is divided by the number of MSP's you already have in each region. 

For example: Theres 8 constituencies in glasgow. Last time snp won all 8, so their list total was divided by 8. All other parties had 0 seats, so there's remained the full number. So the SNP got no list seats. 

 

100% correct but not entierly explanatory.

The 73 first past the post seats are split into 8 regions and each region returns 7 list MSPs to make a total of 56 list MSPs.

The list votes each party gets are divided by the number of FPTP MSPs they won in that region plus 1 (cos you can't divide by zero). So the SNP may get say 18000 list votes, way more than anyother party,  but that list vote will be divided by 8+1 in the first round of assigning the list MSPs to give them 2000. Lets say labour were best of the rest with 8000 votes so they get the first list MSP.

On to round 2 and the Labour list vote is now divided by 1+1=2 so if they got 8000 votes thats now 4000 and the Tories might now be best of the rest with 6000 list votes and take the 2nd list MSP, and in round three their list vote will also now be divided by 2 once again leaving Labours 8000/2 = 4000 makes them best of the rest again so they get slot 3, but now their list vote gets divided by three in the next round, and so it goes on for seven rounds.

Eventually once SNP, Labour and Tory votes are diluted enough the Greens start picking up slots an at the end maybe the SNP nab one.

So in areas where the SNP win all the elected seats in a region both votes SNP are pretty much wasted, but in regions where they don't then both votes SNP makes sense and allows them to pick up the odd list seat. Last time round where the SNP won all elected seats in six of the eight regions 750,000 list votes returned zero list MSPs.

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17 minutes ago, Woolenrouge said:

100% correct but not entierly explanatory.

The 73 first past the post seats are split into 8 regions and each region returns 7 list MSPs to make a total of 56 list MSPs.

The list votes each party gets are divided by the number of FPTP MSPs they won in that region plus 1 (cos you can't divide by zero). So the SNP may get say 18000 list votes, way more than anyother party,  but that list vote will be divided by 8+1 in the first round of assigning the list MSPs to give them 2000. Lets say labour were best of the rest with 8000 votes so they get the first list MSP.

On to round 2 and the Labour list vote is now divided by 1+1=2 so if they got 8000 votes thats now 4000 and the Tories might now be best of the rest with 6000 list votes and take the 2nd list MSP, and in round three their list vote will also now be divided by 2 once again leaving Labours 8000/2 = 4000 makes them best of the rest again so they get slot 3, but now their list vote gets divided by three in the next round, and so it goes on for seven rounds.

Eventually once SNP, Labour and Tory votes are diluted enough the Greens start picking up slots an at the end maybe the SNP nab one.

So in areas where the SNP win all the elected seats in a region both votes SNP are pretty much wasted, but in regions where they don't then both votes SNP makes sense and allows them to pick up the odd list seat. Last time round where the SNP won all elected seats in six of the eight regions 750,000 list votes returned zero list MSPs.

total heid fuck but thanks for the effort trying to explain 

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The system is a fucking load of pish though, how many folk on here seriously have a clue what is going on let alone your average pensioner.

If you want SNP, Conservatives or Labour vote for them. You shouldn’t have to be having to work out fucking algorithm’s and tactically voting.

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