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4 minutes ago, sooth_stander said:

All this comparisons with Ian Cathro…..

Yeah, shite manager but proven ability as a coach both before and since the Tynecastle shambles.

Glass, on the other hand…….

What proven ability as a coach did he have 

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Just now, thurso said:

What proven ability as a coach did he have 

Cathro? He'd been an assistant to Nuno at Rio Ave & Valencia. 

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6 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Cathro? He'd been an assistant to Nuno at Rio Ave & Valencia. 

Ah I see.
I don’t want to get into an argument but does that mean he has proven ability like mentioned, many people are coaches at clubs but when they go it alone you see how shit they really are. 

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2 minutes ago, thurso said:

Ah I see.
I don’t want to get into an argument but does that mean he has proven ability like mentioned, many people are coaches at clubs but when they go it alone you see how shit they really are. 

Well being employed by managers at big clubs (he's subsequently been with Benitez at Newcastle and nuno at wolves) would suggest he knows what he's doing. 

It's possible to be a good coach without being a good manager. 

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4 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Well being employed by managers at big clubs (he's subsequently been with Benitez at Newcastle and nuno at wolves) would suggest he knows what he's doing. 

It's possible to be a good coach without being a good manager. 

He's now at spurs as asst head coach. Not bad...

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27 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Well being employed by managers at big clubs (he's subsequently been with Benitez at Newcastle and nuno at wolves) would suggest he knows what he's doing. 

It's possible to be a good coach without being a good manager. 

So he follows Nuno from club to club. He could be just there putting cones out doing as he’s told doesn’t mean he’s actually doing anything with purpose 

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10 minutes ago, thurso said:

So he follows Nuno from club to club. He could be just there putting cones out doing as he’s told doesn’t mean he’s actually doing anything with purpose 

Did you miss the bit about being with Benitez at Newcastle? 

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14 minutes ago, thurso said:

So he follows Nuno from club to club. He could be just there putting cones out doing as he’s told doesn’t mean he’s actually doing anything with purpose 

You think all these top clubs employ him as a senior coach but he's actually a shite coach? 

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23 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

Thing is, we have no idea what he’s trying to do. There is little or no sign of a formation or strategy or style of play.

Bottom 6 with a shite run if fixtures looming. 
 

Yup, this is the main problem. If we actually knew what he was trying to do that would maybe give a bit of hope that it's going to click eventually. Reality is, none of us have a clue what he's trying to do. Maybe he should explain it to us, tell us what the thinking is behind the "formation" and "strategy" etc because it's pretty much impossible to work it out at the moment.

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24 minutes ago, thurso said:

So he follows Nuno from club to club. He could be just there putting cones out doing as he’s told doesn’t mean he’s actually doing anything with purpose 

He speaks Portuguese and Spanish fluently, so likely handy to have for Nuno as a translator if he doesn't understand something. But I'm also sure that the number of coaching jobs he has had (mostly head-hunted for) shows that he knows what he is doing. Not all coaches make great managers and not all managers are great coaches. The greatest manager of them all was supposedly a pretty shite coach...

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30 minutes ago, Parklife said:

You think all these top clubs employ him as a senior coach but he's actually a shite coach? 

I’d say more nuno likes him so he employs because his time at hearts shows he is pretty shite. 

 

18 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

He speaks Portuguese and Spanish fluently, so likely handy to have for Nuno as a translator if he doesn't understand something. But I'm also sure that the number of coaching jobs he has had (mostly head-hunted for) shows that he knows what he is doing. Not all coaches make great managers and not all managers are great coaches. The greatest manager of them all was supposedly a pretty shite coach...

You could be onto something as being his translator who has an ok understanding of coaching so nuno takes him where he goes. 

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13 minutes ago, thurso said:

I’d say more nuno likes him so he employs because his time at hearts shows he is pretty shite. 

 

You could be onto something as being his translator who has an ok understanding of coaching so nuno takes him where he goes. 

So he just translates and lays out cones because you've decided he's a shite coach? 

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18 minutes ago, thurso said:

I’d say more nuno likes him so he employs because his time at hearts shows he is pretty shite. 

His time at Hearts doesn't show that at all. It shows he didn't succeed as a manager there.

It doesn't invalidate his entire coaching career. He's been employed by Nuno multiple times and also by Rafa Benitez. If you think guys like that employ people to senior positions that aren't good at their job, then you're completely wrong. 

I'll trust the judgement of these guys over you, who is using his performance as a manger to judge his coaching ability, on this occasion.

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This is up there with Thurso 's refusal to accept that John McGinn might be a good player. 

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2 hours ago, sooth_stander said:

I agree Cormack won’t allow this shitfest to get TOO much shitier but as was pointed out yesterday, if Glass does get the bullet, who the fuck is going to come in as new head coach and work under Steven Gunn; another inexperienced Cormack puppet who clearly is also out of his depth?

Fuck, a year ago, Gunn was doing the logistics of foreign travel and player registrations, now he’s running the entire football operation.

Frying pans, and fires. McInnes was a busted flush. Milne was an embarrassment. Now, we’ve exacerbated the situation and are locked into an arrangement with US investors who want their men in key positions 

The US generally prides itself on success - seems very thin on the ground - bottom half of the league, out of one of the two tournaments we might have had a chance in and out of the money making tournament to boot. If you were marking his card at the moment it can only be an F. If I were a US investor I'd be giving Dave Colgate earache. 

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3 hours ago, Tord31 said:

The day I knew Cormack, Gunn and Glass did not know what they were doing;

The day we signed Matty Longstaff. A, presumably, very expensive player in an area of the pitch that was our absolute lowest priority.

Absolute bonkers signing.

The four players that came in; Samuels, Watkins, Longstaff and Bates - we could have been a lot more smart with our final pennies.

A penalty box striker, a winger and Bates.

I do hope Watkins, Samuels and Longstaff prove their worth though.

Couldn’t agree any more with you. What a strange signing. ANOTHER centre mid. Madness. The moment I realised we had a dud in charge. Ah well.

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The week that Cormack and Glass went over to the States to secure the release of Jack Gurr was the first real alarm bell. 

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Alex miller was head coach and scout at Liverpool under Benitez and Houllier, 

Tommy Craig 1st team coach at Newcastle under sir Bobby Robson.

Roy Aitken, was assistant at Leeds and Aston Villa 

All shit managers 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said:

This is up there with Thurso 's refusal to accept that John McGinn might be a good player. 

I think I said he was over rated which he is 

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4 hours ago, thurso said:

So he follows Nuno from club to club. He could be just there putting cones out doing as he’s told doesn’t mean he’s actually doing anything with purpose 

Shut the fuck up min :laughing:

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3 hours ago, Don_Corleone said:

. Maybe he should explain it to us, tell us what the thinking is behind the "formation" and "strategy" etc because it's pretty much impossible to work it out at the moment.

But then the opposition managers would know how to set up against us. He wants to keep it a secret ,  even from our own players.  He’s a cunning fox.

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2 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

The week that Cormack and Glass went over to the States to secure the release of Jack Gurr was the first real alarm bell. 

The week we signed up to a “strategic partnership” with Atlanta was the first alarm bell  in my head of Stephen Glass incoming.

It hasn’t stopped fucking ringing since.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Ten Caat said:

He speaks Portuguese and Spanish fluently, so likely handy to have for Nuno as a translator if he doesn't understand something. But I'm also sure that the number of coaching jobs he has had (mostly head-hunted for) shows that he knows what he is doing. Not all coaches make great managers and not all managers are great coaches. The greatest manager of them all was supposedly a pretty shite coach...

Fergie seldom coached. Knox did most of it. 

The standing joke (as told by Neale Cooper) was when Fergie decided to take the pre-match warm up in Munich in 1983 - apparently it was a shambles with balls flying everywhere. Obviously Cooper exaggerated the story for comedic effect but the consensus was Fergie was not a great coach.

Great tactician, great motivator & fantastic man manager by all accounts, but bang average at coaching players and not involved too heavily on the training pitch.

As for Glass, it doesn’t look like he can organise a team to attack or defend.
Which is as bad as it gets.

 

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4 hours ago, Ten Caat said:

He speaks Portuguese and Spanish fluently, so likely handy to have for Nuno as a translator if he doesn't understand something. But I'm also sure that the number of coaching jobs he has had (mostly head-hunted for) shows that he knows what he is doing. Not all coaches make great managers and not all managers are great coaches. The greatest manager of them all was supposedly a pretty shite coach...

Calderwood?

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48 minutes ago, DelMonte said:

Shut the fuck up min :laughing:

Why were you at one of their training sessions to see him coach and tell me how good he was 

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Celtics worst start to a season in 23 years & our new manager still manages to hang about beneath them.

They could end up with another Ronny on their hands & yet again we can’t lay a glove on them.

The longer Celtic struggle the more confidence the Edinburgh clubs will get & we shit it even more like a wee pub team.

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2 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

Fergie seldom coached. Knox did most of it. 

The standing joke (as told by Neale Cooper) was when Fergie decided to take the pre-match warm up in Munich in 1983 - apparently it was a shambles with balls flying everywhere. Obviously Cooper exaggerated the story for comedic effect but the consensus was Fergie was not a great coach.

Great tactician, great motivator & fantastic man manager by all accounts, but bang average at coaching players and not involved too heavily on the training pitch.

As for Glass, it doesn’t look like he can organise a team to attack or defend.
Which is as bad as it gets.

 

Same with Cloughie at Forest , apparently and Martin o Neill at Celtic.

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Who do you think the motivator is in our current coaching set up? 

Glass? 

Russell? 

Henry? 

Brown? 

 

Must be the player-coach, surely? 

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