Welcome back Stephen Glass

[PondHopper]

3 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

All this arguing about the pros & cons of McInnes is fucking pointless.

1) He deserved to go. It was time to go.

2) Glass should’ve been nowhere near the job.

We were all delighted McInnes was gone.  
I still am.  
Glass not being up to it is irrelevant to the fact McInnes had to go.

I just hope Cormack isn’t too stubborn & keep Glass. We’ll be in big trouble if we do. 

DM had lost the team. I agree. Could have just kept Paul Sheerin around this year and been no worse than we are. 

[DelMonte]

5 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Not too hard to understand why when your top scorer is sold, wright is sold, Hedges and Watkins injured and only replaced at last minute with 3 unmatchfit loans in Hornby,  Hendry and kamberi 

Don't even try to compare mcinnes last 6 months to this 

It’s the exact same.

[Joe pike]

3 minutes ago, PondHopper said:

DM had lost the team. I agree. Could have just kept Paul Sheerin around this year and been no worse than we are. 

Where is Paul Sheerin these days?

[PondHopper]

1 minute ago, Joe pike said:

Where is Paul Sheerin these days?

Falkirk

[Rico1903]

5 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Just means its unlikely I'll use my season ticket

It's a shame all round 

In hindsight I never really wanted him out, I was just lashing out 

He was utterly hamstrung in that last 6 months 

McInnes himself knew he had to go. 

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Irrelevant

2nd 4 seasons in a row, reduced to this

It's heart breaking 

When did DC effectively take over the running of the club and did that effect DM performance etc behind scenes?

We should have been careful what we wished for, as we were warned, as the way this is going McGhee's record as Dons boss will be surpassed before too long.

Embarrassing ?

[Big Hat Logan]

4 minutes ago, Rico1903 said:

McInnes himself knew he had to go. 

The chat before the game today, one of the pundits on sky said something about hearing things in footballing circles and McInnes wanted away. I can’t remember what it was exactly but would explain a lot.

[minijc]

13 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Be quiet you 

Nope, not when you continually expose yourself for not 'getting' football.  You only care about a manager or a certain player, that much is obvious, you can pine for McJobless all you like, he won't be back, he still carries some blame for things at the club.  We've made the right decision to move on from him, it's not working right now but I seriously believe if we stick with the plan things will change and we'll be in a much better position than McJobless had us due to the stagnation of the squad and his ego.

[Big Hat Logan]

1 minute ago, minijc said:

Nope, not when you continually expose yourself for not 'getting' football.  You only care about a manager or a certain player, that much is obvious, you can pine for McJobless all you like, he won't be back, he still carries some blame for things at the club.  We've made the right decision to move on from him, it's not working right now but I seriously believe if we stick with the plan things will change and we'll be in a much better position than McJobless had us due to the stagnation of the squad and his ego.

What’s the plan that we are meant to stick to, exactly? 

[shooftahmooftah]

21 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

All this arguing about the pros & cons of McInnes is fucking pointless.

1) He deserved to go. It was time to go.

2) Glass should’ve been nowhere near the job.

We were all delighted McInnes was gone.  
I still am.  
Glass not being up to it is irrelevant to the fact McInnes had to go.

I just hope Cormack isn’t too stubborn & keep Glass. We’ll be in big trouble if we do. 

 Neil Lennon, still looking for a job.   

[WesthillWanderersFC]

16 minutes ago, shooftahmooftah said:

 Neil Lennon, still looking for a job.   

Don’t. Please don’t.

That unfortunately might not be that ridiculous a possibility unfortunately,

 

[Millertime]

32 minutes ago, DelMonte said:

It’s the exact same.

Yep

Only difference is mcinnes wasn't allowed to sign proper replacements and Glass has been given the proverbial war chest

So, yeah, not apples and apples 

[Millertime]

21 minutes ago, minijc said:

Nope, not when you continually expose yourself for not 'getting' football.  You only care about a manager or a certain player, that much is obvious, you can pine for McJobless all you like, he won't be back, he still carries some blame for things at the club.  We've made the right decision to move on from him, it's not working right now but I seriously believe if we stick with the plan things will change and we'll be in a much better position than McJobless had us due to the stagnation of the squad and his ego.

Your credit is on the wane with me, so be careful

You can almost attribute our decline,  even under mcinnes, to cormack coming in

[SDY]

25 minutes ago, minijc said:

 We've made the right decision to move on from him, it's not working right now but I seriously believe if we stick with the plan things will change and we'll be in a much better position than McJobless had us due to the stagnation of the squad and his ego.

It would be great if Glass could organise some friendly games or something to practice this non-existent plan rather than trying and failing every time against the dross of the league. 

This is worse than McInnes, an out of depth waste of time taking the club backwards, and a section can't admit it. 

[minijc]

25 minutes ago, Big Hat Logan said:

What’s the plan that we are meant to stick to, exactly? 

Everyone at the club gets pulling in the same direction, it's not working right now which is unfortunate but too many are panicking and wanting further change 6 games in to the season.  

6 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Yep

Only difference is mcinnes wasn't allowed to sign proper replacements and Glass has been given the proverbial war chest

So, yeah, not apples and apples 

LOl, loan fees and the wage percentages for those 3 players were hefty chunks, well two, Hendry being the cheapo option.

5 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Your credit is on the wane with me, so be careful

You can almost attribute our decline,  even under mcinnes, to cormack coming in

HAHAHAHA give a fuck Franny, you're just another post on here, one that just doesn't get football and only likes to be proven right, or at least try to claim you are right.  You keep wanking over Mcjobless, the man who ran off to Sunderland and rangers TWICE trying to force moves and line his own pockets, now the cunt can't even get himself an interview with Ayr LOL.

[ericblack4boss]

Who would be worse 

Popcorn teeth or thick as shit  Hughes?

[minijc]

Too many would rather we just stuck with the typical appointment of some old plug that dots around the league but has no long term plan.  Cormack has a plan, well at least an idea of a plan, in the end he's went for Glass as his man to try get it kick started, others he'd have liked were either not as convincing as Glass or we were never really in a position to get that man. 

[Yorston Vasey]

1 minute ago, ericblack4boss said:

Who would be worse 

Popcorn teeth or thick as shit  Hughes?

I would take Hughes over Lennon without question. Cormack should be looking at offering Hughes the assistant manager job on Monday, Glass needs someone with experience alongside him and Hughes would be an available and realistic candidate for that.

[Big Hat Logan]

4 minutes ago, minijc said:

Everyone at the club gets pulling in the same direction, it's not working right now which is unfortunate but too many are panicking and wanting further change 6 games in to the season.  

LOl, loan fees and the wage percentages for those 3 players were hefty chunks, well two, Hendry being the cheapo option.

HAHAHAHA give a fuck Franny, you're just another post on here, one that just doesn't get football and only likes to be proven right, or at least try to claim you are right.  You keep wanking over Mcjobless, the man who ran off to Sunderland and rangers TWICE trying to force moves and line his own pockets, now the cunt can't even get himself an interview with Ayr LOL.

Don’t get me wrong, I am always in favour of giving a manager time but the fact we still set up the exact same every week and make the same mistakes over and over again makes it difficult to defend.

[Joe pike]

3 minutes ago, ericblack4boss said:

Who would be worse 

Popcorn teeth or thick as shit  Hughes?

Thick as shit Hughes at least gets his teams to play football.

[minijc]

Just now, Big Hat Logan said:

Don’t get me wrong, I am always in favour of giving a manager time but the fact we still set up the exact same every week and make the same mistakes over and over again makes it difficult to defend.

I agree, personally I think, given the players we have that play in defence we should be switching to a 3 at the back.  Gallagher is better than he's shown so that takes a leap of faith, if we get a 3 working it gives us more protection and also allows Ramsay and MacKenzie to do what they can going forward.

[sooth_stander]

Our managerial appointment success rate in my lifetime doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence that Glass’ replacement with be a whole lot better. Not that that in itself is any reason for not binning him.

Turnbull - hit

Bonthrone - miss

McNeill - hit

Fergie - hit

Portaloo - miss

Smithy - hit

Willie - hit/miss

Aitken - (won a trophy but) miss

Ebbe - miss

Paterson - miss

Calderwood - hit (but stayed a year too long)

McGhoo - miss

Brown - hit/miss (steadied the ship initially but stayed a year too long)

McInnes - hit (but stayed 2 years too long)

Glass - miss

40% success rate.

And with Cormack at the wheel, its going to be another Atlanta coach coming in.

Man, these are challenging times.

John Collins, anyone?

 

[Guest milne_afc]

Good job you’ve forgotten about A Miller

[Jocky Balboa]

12 minutes ago, minijc said:

Too many would rather we just stuck with the typical appointment of some old plug that dots around the league but has no long term plan.  Cormack has a plan, well at least an idea of a plan, in the end he's went for Glass as his man to try get it kick started, others he'd have liked were either not as convincing as Glass or we were never really in a position to get that man. 

Who was less convincing than Glass??? ? I'm sorry, but with the wages McInnes commanded (which, let's face it, are the best he'll ever get) we should have been more than capable of attracting a decent football manager. If we hadn't been so slow to end McInnes's reign, we could have landed Jack Ross. Hell, even Tommy Wright and Derek Adams are better candidates than a complete rookie who, despite his obvious intelligence and passion for the game, had nothing in his employment history to suggest he could take us up a level.

10 minutes ago, Joe pike said:

Thick as shit Hughes at least gets his teams to play football.

Agreed. If not for bad finishing, his Falkirk team would have buried us that year under Calderwood, when we just scraped past them to clinch the Top 6 trophy. John Collins also made a good fist of it at Hibs in a similar timeframe and, unlike McInnes, gave youth a chance.

[Cowie]

No idea what the solution is  - but it is not Glass.

He needs to go.

[super_al]

31 minutes ago, minijc said:

Too many would rather we just stuck with the typical appointment of some old plug that dots around the league but has no long term plan.  Cormack has a plan, well at least an idea of a plan, in the end he's went for Glass as his man to try get it kick started, others he'd have liked were either not as convincing as Glass or we were never really in a position to get that man. 

@minijcwhat is the general feeling at the club as to how far from clicking we are? I can see what they are trying to do and think it could work, but personally feel we don't have the attacking mids/creative players to make it work. Is there an acceptance in the club that we may have a rocky period before it clicks? Are the players truly believing in the new system?

 

 

[Millertime]

Just now, super_al said:

@minijcwhat is the general feeling at the club as to how far from clicking we are? I can see what they are trying to do and think it could work, but personally feel we don't have the attacking mids/creative players to make it work. Is there an acceptance in the club that we may gave a rocky period before it clicked? Are the players truly believing in the new system?

 

 

Stop that

[super_al]

Just now, Millertime said:

Stop that

Why?

[Shinniesta]

It's always a risk appointing a rookie manager. St Johnstone had a very poor start last season under newly appointed rookie Callum Davidson. I remember thinking for a period of time that he was looking out of his depth as they lost 7 of their first 10 league games scoring only 4 goals in the process. But he obviously came good in the end. 
 

I just don't see the same thing happening with Glass. Davidson had the advantage of working under Wright for years and knew the league inside out. He's also at a club will far less pressure and expectation. He also appears to know what he is doing.

Glass' managerial credentials are reminding me of John Barnes and Ian Cathro with every passing week. 

[super_al]

15 minutes ago, Shinniesta said:

It's always a risk appointing a rookie manager. St Johnstone had a very poor start last season under newly appointed rookie Callum Davidson. I remember thinking for a period of time that he was looking out of his depth as they lost 7 of their first 10 league games scoring only 4 goals in the process. But he obviously came good in the end. 
 

I just don't see the same thing happening with Glass. Davidson had the advantage of working under Wright for years and knew the league inside out. He's also at a club will far less pressure and expectation. He also appears to know what he is doing.

Glass' managerial credentials are reminding me of John Barnes and Ian Cathro with every passing week. 

In my opinion it's individual errors that have cost us rather than Glass. 

Ross County - Cut out the error for their goal and we win 1-0.

Motherwell - Lewis kicking error and Ferguson not marking his man.

Saint Johnstone - Gallagher and McCorie not closing down quick enough after losing the ball in midfield.

Saint Mirren, Lewis at fault for two goals after silly mistakes. Bates could have done better for the first and second.

These are the players errors, not Glass.