Ramandu Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 3 hours ago, RUL said: It really defies logic. In a 12 team league the team that came 8th reached European football. They won a play off of sorts, not obvious why there is a play off. I agree with your general comment about top end of Austrian football being strong, but I guess that's similar to rangers over here just now. For anyone interested, Bet365 are showing the team from Iceland game tonight, 815. Seems they split into top 6 and bottom 6 after two rounds of fixtures. The top two finishers in the bottom 6 play each other, and the winner of that plays the 5th place team for a euro spot. I suppose it keeps things interesting, and everyone has something to play for at the tail end of the season. Link to comment
Joe pike Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Is this Icelandic lot full or part time ? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 40 minutes ago, pocrawred said: 4 0 breidabrik!! Tasty... Lil bit concerning & should maybe cool our jets rgds chat of play off round until we see if we are getting there Link to comment
RUL Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: Lil bit concerning & should maybe cool our jets rgds chat of play off round until we see if we are getting there A really low standard of game. Kari was looking every bit his 38 years of age. Link to comment
RedRichard Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 57 minutes ago, Tord31 said: Qarabag 70th Apollon 98th Aberdeen 128th AEL 235th Breidablik 275th We're 151st . There is different data to wherever you've got yours, here https://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/#/yr/2021 Link to comment
DelMonte Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, Millertime said: Agreed No excuses, easiest draw in 8 years It is the easiest draw but doesn’t excuse the pitiful effort the past 8 years. To not even reach the play off round once was embarrassing. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, RedRichard said: We're 151st . There is different data to wherever you've got yours, here https://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/#/yr/2021 bert kassies live one I was looking at. maybe the uefa one is the one from pre season? Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 13 hours ago, Betty Swallicks said: Game on Thursday moved to national stadium. Grass pitch by the looks of it. Obviously we are regarded as a far bigger draw than the Austrians. ? Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 9 hours ago, RedRichard said: We're 151st . There is different data to wherever you've got yours, here https://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/#/yr/2021 72-76th - a bunch of English teams with coefficient points in only 1 of the last 5 years each, ranging from a measly 1.50 to 16.00, yet they all sit on 20.113 overall points just because they are English. What a shite system. Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, Andy_123 said: 72-76th - a bunch of English teams with coefficient points in only 1 of the last 5 years each, ranging from a measly 1.50 to 16.00, yet they all sit on 20.113 overall points just because they are English. What a shite system. Exactly. It's a fucking joke. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 hours ago, muttonhumper said: Obviously we are regarded as a far bigger draw than the Austrians. ? Prob and because its on Premier Sports and the press/media facilities are not up to it at their own ground. Them not being at their "home" andits now on a grass pitch obviously helps us. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 15 hours ago, Millertime said: What, by beating easier teams than mcinnes got? 12 hours ago, Ernie McCracken said: Are Apollon Limassol better than AEL Limassol or Qarabag? 12 hours ago, Millertime said: Yes 11 hours ago, Millertime said: Agreed No excuses, easiest draw in 8 years HAHAHA! Hun mentality just like "the tims 9 in a row didn't count because rangers weren't in the league". McInnes failed min, move on! Link to comment
RedRichard Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 11 hours ago, Tord31 said: bert kassies live one I was looking at. maybe the uefa one is the one from pre season? yeah you're right, his includes results from this season, ta. https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/trank2022.html Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, RedRichard said: yeah you're right, his includes results from this season, ta. https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/trank2022.html If (big if) we were to get to the groups how many points do you get? I presume you get points for every draw and win achieved there too? Link to comment
Tord31 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Betty Swallicks said: If (big if) we were to get to the groups how many points do you get? I presume you get points for every draw and win achieved there too? Fuck knows the exact answer but safe to say if we beat Breidablik and AEL/Qarabag, and finish top 3 this season (or win the Scottish Cup) then the club will have achieved it's stated objective to become a Uefa Top 100 club. Because that would mean group stages two years in a row. Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 27 minutes ago, RedRichard said: yeah you're right, his includes results from this season, ta. https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/trank2022.html We aren't as far off the top 100 place Cormack and Gunn are targetting as I thought. One year reaching the group stages would probably do it. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Andy_123 said: We aren't as far off the top 100 place Cormack and Gunn are targetting as I thought. One year reaching the group stages would probably do it. 3 minutes ago, Tord31 said: Fuck knows the exact answer but safe to say if we beat Breidablik and AEL/Qarabag, and finish top 3 this season (or win the Scottish Cup) then the club will have achieved it's stated objective to become a Uefa Top 100 club. Because that would mean group stages two years in a row. And we'd have done it off our own backs. Freiburg 1 point earned and Union Berlin 2.5 earned on 12.256, Burnley 2.5 earned and Everton/West Ham 3 points earned on 17.585. Link to comment
Guest Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, Andy_123 said: We aren't as far off the top 100 place Cormack and Gunn are targetting as I thought. One year reaching the group stages would probably do it. On paper we have a great opportunity to, finally, reach the group stages. However years and years of following the Dons, and Scottish football in general, tells me that we should take one tie at a time starting with not getting beat away from home on Thursday night. Link to comment
RED_JOHN Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Betty Swallicks said: HAHAHA! Hun mentality just like "the tims 9 in a row didn't count because rangers weren't in the league". McInnes failed min, move on! I still find it amazing some fans stick up for McInnes and think he was a great manager. He held us back and bottled any real challenge. There is a definite want about them. Glass will prove to be a better manager after 1 season. 2 Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Betty Swallicks said: If (big if) we were to get to the groups how many points do you get? I presume you get points for every draw and win achieved there too? We currently get 2 points for reaching the QR3 We'll get 2.5 points if we reach the PO round. In the group stages, you get 2 points for a win and 1 point for a draw. Nothing for a loss, Therefor, with 6 games in the groups, you can get a potential 12 points from 6 wins, or 0 from 6 losses. There is also a bonus 2 points for the group winners and a bonus 1 point for the runner up in the ECL. The EL bonus points are 4 and 2 Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: We currently get 2 points for reaching the QR3 We'll get 2.5 points if we reach the PO round. In the group stages, you get 2 points for a win and 1 point for a draw. Nothing for a loss, Therefor, with 6 games in the groups, you can get a potential 12 points from 6 wins, or 0 from 6 losses. There is also a bonus 2 points for the group winners and a bonus 1 point for the runner up in the ECL. The EL bonus points are 4 and 2 2.5 if reach play off but how many if get to the groups and win no points? Nae still 2.5 surely? Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 54 minutes ago, Woody21 said: On paper we have a great opportunity to, finally, reach the group stages. However years and years of following the Dons, and Scottish football in general, tells me that we should take one tie at a time starting with not getting beat away from home on Thursday night. You say that, but Qarabag have a higher co-efficient than any team that’s knocked us out of Europe in the last 7 years (assuming we get past Breidablik). Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Seems silly that you could get into the groups but not gain any more points than the team you beat in the PO round Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, Betty Swallicks said: 2.5 if reach play off but how many if get to the groups and win no points? Nae still 2.5 surely? yep. still just 2.5 if you lose all 6 games Link to comment
RedRichard Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 6 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: You say that, but Qarabag have a higher co-efficient than any team that’s knocked us out of Europe in the last 7 years (assuming we get past Breidablik). not so, both Sporting and Real Sociedad are significantly higher than Qarabag. The ranking is clearly not a foolproof measure of quality, useful to augment with their European and domestic league form of most recent year. We have a great chance, though if I was DC I'd speculate to accumulate with a key signing (#7) before the PO round. Link to comment
Geoff_Tipps Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, Millertime said: No way are they rated higher than sociedad or sporting Rated higher than Sociedad but not Sporting. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Millertime said: No way are they rated higher than sociedad or sporting Aye, my mistake, forgot about Sporting. It’s as good a draw as we could hope for but still quite heavy underdogs given they’ve made the group stages of Europe the last 6-7 seasons. https://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/#/yr/2021 Link to comment
Poodler Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Millertime said: Not by me they're not Haha 1 Link to comment
DelMonte Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Millertime said: That doesn't make sense It does, you’re just thick. 2 Link to comment
DelMonte Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 It’s best case scenario but still a very big ask. MT is now pedalling a McInnes agenda. Wild after some of the things he said about him when he was in charge. 100% sure he said he hated him multiple times. I’ll find it if he denies it. Link to comment
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