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26 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

Aye its crap. In my head, until recently, I thought it was gonna be the likes of us and our old mates Groningen, Rijeka and Kairat getting a decent run out in Europe. But now it is clear it is just another method to ensure all the money stays with the same clubs / leagues.

Just about every box in the left column leads to a group stage in either the 2nd or 3rd column. And in the rare event it doesn't they get a play off against someone ranked way below them. 

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It’s a farce & only growing more farcical as time passes.

It’s a cup competition & should be treated as such. A regular cup competition that you benefit if you win but don’t get second/third chances for losing.

 

It has ruined the competition for the many but not the few.

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3 hours ago, Medw1311 said:

So Champions League (Non Champions Path) Q3 Losers go to the Europa League Group Stage but the Champions League (Champions Path) Q3 losers only go to the Europa League Play Off Round....WTAF?!?!?!

Yes, but obviously based on the country ranking seedlings. I.e. they want to allow the higher ranked nations (even if not champions) to progress ahead of the champions of lower ranked nations

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40 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

It’s a farce & only growing more farcical as time passes.

It’s a cup competition & should be treated as such. A regular cup competition that you benefit if you win but don’t get second/third chances for losing.

 

It has ruined the competition for the many but not the few.

I do miss the old 3 UEFA competitions. European Cup, UEFA Cup and the Cup Winners Cup.

stright draw, no seeding, straight knockout.

far better

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2 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said:

It’s a farce & only growing more farcical as time passes.

It’s a cup competition & should be treated as such. A regular cup competition that you benefit if you win but don’t get second/third chances for losing.

 

It has ruined the competition for the many but not the few.

And yet all the idiots will be licking their lips when they see the champions league quarter final draw next season 

man city v psg

bayern v barca

atletico v juve

Liverpool v Real Madrid 

it’s an awful lot of games and diagrams to be played just to ensure the above matches happen and they can rape as much money as they can to get there

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48 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

And yet all the idiots will be licking their lips when they see the champions league quarter final draw next season 

man city v psg

bayern v barca

atletico v juve

Liverpool v Real Madrid 

it’s an awful lot of games and diagrams to be played just to ensure the above matches happen and they can rape as much money as they can to get there

Would rather watch paint dry than the champions league. Surely even the biggest plastics are getting bored of it now? 

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10 minutes ago, NEM said:

Would rather watch paint dry than the champions league. Surely even the biggest plastics are getting bored of it now? 

That's why I was loving the super league idea. Totally shake it up as the EPL and Champions League has got so boring. Get all the best players at the best 20 teams.

I was also hoping it was going to be the wake up call to uefa and the rest of us to fight for a more fair future.

Heyho

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27 minutes ago, NEM said:

Would rather watch paint dry than the champions league. Surely even the biggest plastics are getting bored of it now? 

It’s dire. I don’t follow or watch NFL but will   Watch Super Bowl, mostly as a social day type thing. As not a fan of the sport. 
I watch football but the champions league really has no interest for me at all. I am sure there are many like me in this sense. Quite ironic really as the super bowl is the model that UEFA want to follow. Commercialised shite. Aimed at non fans really as family/social entertainment .

cannot remember that last champions league final I watched in all honesty but it’s been a while. 
champions league is just ‘soccer’ to me. 

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6 hours ago, rocket_scientist said:

You going aye?

Spending money on me me me me me instead of facing your responsibilities?

Part time parent.

Fucking disgrace.

Newsflash. AFC are shit.

Because of people like you. 

Ha ha what a twisted individual you are 

A bitter, old English cunt 

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7 hours ago, rocket_scientist said:

Come back when you're strong enough.

It's not a fair fight the now.

Box office boy.

Embrace it, you said.

I respect you, you said.

What changed?

I fucking changed you. I spat you oot my arse.

Imagine spending half your time following some cunt around a message board. Away an take a good look at yersel ya fanny. Fucking shambles of a guy. 

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13 hours ago, NEM said:

Would rather watch paint dry than the champions league. Surely even the biggest plastics are getting bored of it now? 

They aren't though. That's the worst part. The culture of world football has changed so much. It's all the weirdos doing weird posts on social media and "ronaldo fan boys" and Nigerian Man U fans who dictate what football fans want now. The folk who dont actually watch football, just play FIFA and watch highlights. And the English folk who still think Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher are funny. 

The real folk have been left behind

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18 hours ago, rocket_scientist said:

You going aye?

Spending money on me me me me me instead of facing your responsibilities?

Part time parent.

Fucking disgrace.

Newsflash. AFC are shit.

Because of people like you. 

Hahahahahaha, remember telling me I wouldn’t survive because of the words I wrote?, mind?, so that’s Scotland you called out yesterday as shitehawks and now AFC are shit?.how’s my wee English guff charlatans head today?. Guess what?,

you won’t survive after last nights escapades, remember the written word is there for all to see, your reputation on here is in tatters, knew it would only be time you showed the REAL you, twisted,sick,fundamentally unlikeable, English guff fat bastard!, push the button?. Watching to many Liam neeson films!, enjoy the little time you have on this earth left ya old bastard, last night was serendipity for my soul watching you clumsily destroy your own self.magic!.ahhhhhhh

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QR2 anticipated teams are now all but one known. Last spot goes to a Northern Irish team or Gzira United from Malta

Seeded clubs                   coef.             Unseeded clubs                 coef.
------------------------ --- ----------------    ------------------------ --- ----------------
FC Basel                 Sui  49.000             .
FC København             Den  43.500             Servette FC Genève       Sui   5.245
Viktoria Plzen           Cze  33.500             Aris Thessaloniki        Gre   5.200
AA Gent                  Bel  26.500             Dynamo Brest             Bls   5.000
FK Astana                Kaz  22.500             DAC Dunajska Streda      Svk   5.000
Feyenoord                Ned  21.000             KuPS Kuopio *            Fin   5.000
Qarabag FK               Azb  21.000             FH Hafnarfjardar *       Isl   5.000
FCSB                     Rom  21.000             MS Ashdod                Isr   4.875
Maccabi Tel-Aviv         Isr  20.500             Sutjeska Niksic *        Mon   4.750
AEK Athens               Gre  19.500             FC Santa Coloma *        And   4.500
Partizan Belgrade        Srb  18.000             Partizani Tirana *       Alb   4.250
Hapoel Beer-Sheva        Isr  17.500             Vålerengens IF           Nor   4.200
BATE Borisov             Bls  17.500             Hammarby IF              Swe   4.100
Molde FK                 Nor  17.000             IF Elfsborg              Swe   4.100
Rosenborg BK             Nor  14.000             BK Häcken                Swe   4.100
NK Maribor *             Slo  14.000             Lokomotiv Plovdiv        Bul   4.075
NK Rijeka                Cro  13.500             Arda Kardzhali           Bul   4.075
Apollon Limassol         Cyp  13.500             KF Laçi *                Alb   4.000
FC Fehérvár *            Hun  11.500             Europa FC *              Gib   4.000
Dundalk *                Irl  10.500             FK Liepaja *             Lat   4.000
Austria Wien             Aut  10.000             Hibernians FC *          Mlt   3.750
CD Santa Clara           Por   9.709             Levadia Tallinn *        Est   3.750
Suduva Marijampole *     Lit   8.750             Sepsi OSK                Rom   3.640
CSKA Sofia               Bul   8.000             FC Drita *               Kos   3.500
Hajduk Split             Cro   8.000             Kesla FK                 Azb   3.375
F91 Dudelange            Lux   8.000             Sumgayit FK              Azb   3.375
FC Sochi                 Rus   7.676             La Fiorita *             Sma   3.250
Aberdeen                 Sco   7.500             Stjarnan FC *            Isl   3.250
The New Saints *         Wal   7.500             Tobol Kustanai           Kaz   3.125
Spartak Trnava *         Svk   7.500             Shakhtyor Karaganda      Kaz   3.125
Olimpija Ljubljana       Slo   6.750             Újpest TE                Hun   3.100
Hibernian                Sco   6.675             Puskás Akadémia *        Hun   3.100
Vorskla Poltava          Ukr   6.620             Torpedo Zhodino          Bls   3.050
FK Sarajevo *            Bos   6.250             Pogon Szczecin           Pol   3.025
Sivasspor                Tur   6.020             Slask Wroclaw *          Pol   3.025
NK Osijek                Cro   6.000             Raków Czestochowa        Pol   3.025
Universitatea Craiova    Rom   6.000             FK Shkupi *              Mac   3.000
AGF Aarhus               Den   5.575             Petrocub Hîncesti *      Mol   3.000
AEL Limassol             Cyp   5.550             NSI Runavik *            Far   3.000
FC Vaduz                 Lie   5.500             Coleraine *              Nir   2.750
NK Domzale *             Slo   5.500             Tre Penne *              Sma   2.750
Vojvodina Novi Sad       Srb   5.350             Siroki Brijeg *          Bos   2.750
Cukaricki Belgrade       Srb   5.350             Bala Town *              Wal   2.500
1.FC Slovácko            Cze   5.320             MSK Zilina *             Svk   2.725
KI Klaksvik *            Far   5.250             FK Panevezys             Lit   1.750
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1 hour ago, afc1903mad said:

QR2 anticipated teams are now all but one known. Last spot goes to a Northern Irish team or Gzira United from Malta


Seeded clubs                   coef.             Unseeded clubs                 coef.
------------------------ --- ----------------    ------------------------ --- ----------------
FC Basel                 Sui  49.000             .
FC København             Den  43.500             Servette FC Genève       Sui   5.245
Viktoria Plzen           Cze  33.500             Aris Thessaloniki        Gre   5.200
AA Gent                  Bel  26.500             Dynamo Brest             Bls   5.000
FK Astana                Kaz  22.500             DAC Dunajska Streda      Svk   5.000
Feyenoord                Ned  21.000             KuPS Kuopio *            Fin   5.000
Qarabag FK               Azb  21.000             FH Hafnarfjardar *       Isl   5.000
FCSB                     Rom  21.000             MS Ashdod                Isr   4.875
Maccabi Tel-Aviv         Isr  20.500             Sutjeska Niksic *        Mon   4.750
AEK Athens               Gre  19.500             FC Santa Coloma *        And   4.500
Partizan Belgrade        Srb  18.000             Partizani Tirana *       Alb   4.250
Hapoel Beer-Sheva        Isr  17.500             Vålerengens IF           Nor   4.200
BATE Borisov             Bls  17.500             Hammarby IF              Swe   4.100
Molde FK                 Nor  17.000             IF Elfsborg              Swe   4.100
Rosenborg BK             Nor  14.000             BK Häcken                Swe   4.100
NK Maribor *             Slo  14.000             Lokomotiv Plovdiv        Bul   4.075
NK Rijeka                Cro  13.500             Arda Kardzhali           Bul   4.075
Apollon Limassol         Cyp  13.500             KF Laçi *                Alb   4.000
FC Fehérvár *            Hun  11.500             Europa FC *              Gib   4.000
Dundalk *                Irl  10.500             FK Liepaja *             Lat   4.000
Austria Wien             Aut  10.000             Hibernians FC *          Mlt   3.750
CD Santa Clara           Por   9.709             Levadia Tallinn *        Est   3.750
Suduva Marijampole *     Lit   8.750             Sepsi OSK                Rom   3.640
CSKA Sofia               Bul   8.000             FC Drita *               Kos   3.500
Hajduk Split             Cro   8.000             Kesla FK                 Azb   3.375
F91 Dudelange            Lux   8.000             Sumgayit FK              Azb   3.375
FC Sochi                 Rus   7.676             La Fiorita *             Sma   3.250
Aberdeen                 Sco   7.500             Stjarnan FC *            Isl   3.250
The New Saints *         Wal   7.500             Tobol Kustanai           Kaz   3.125
Spartak Trnava *         Svk   7.500             Shakhtyor Karaganda      Kaz   3.125
Olimpija Ljubljana       Slo   6.750             Újpest TE                Hun   3.100
Hibernian                Sco   6.675             Puskás Akadémia *        Hun   3.100
Vorskla Poltava          Ukr   6.620             Torpedo Zhodino          Bls   3.050
FK Sarajevo *            Bos   6.250             Pogon Szczecin           Pol   3.025
Sivasspor                Tur   6.020             Slask Wroclaw *          Pol   3.025
NK Osijek                Cro   6.000             Raków Czestochowa        Pol   3.025
Universitatea Craiova    Rom   6.000             FK Shkupi *              Mac   3.000
AGF Aarhus               Den   5.575             Petrocub Hîncesti *      Mol   3.000
AEL Limassol             Cyp   5.550             NSI Runavik *            Far   3.000
FC Vaduz                 Lie   5.500             Coleraine *              Nir   2.750
NK Domzale *             Slo   5.500             Tre Penne *              Sma   2.750
Vojvodina Novi Sad       Srb   5.350             Siroki Brijeg *          Bos   2.750
Cukaricki Belgrade       Srb   5.350             Bala Town *              Wal   2.500
1.FC Slovácko            Cze   5.320             MSK Zilina *             Svk   2.725
KI Klaksvik *            Far   5.250             FK Panevezys             Lit   1.750

What does the * mean?

Few dodgy ties in there but fancy us v the vast majority.

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There’s a reason we didn’t win any of those crucial games. No heart, no winners mentality. 
 

I can’t believe people still peddle that made up Di Stafano quote about the dons having what other teams don’t. 
 

we tried to get into Europe with ash Taylor in defence. Of course it would never happen 

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