Calvin Ramsay

[Guest milne_afc]

Just now, BonnieDon said:

Would you take 5 million and a future sell on % if offered that in January or keep him and hope for more in the future transfer windows?

Don’t think it matters m8

[muttonhumper]

15 minutes ago, BonnieDon said:

Would you take 5 million and a future sell on % if offered that in January or keep him and hope for more in the future transfer windows?

Future sell on stuff is a bit of a gamble.

We were badly burned in the Ryan Fraser scenario when we thought we'd be scooping the loot?

Were we nae?

[aberdeen1970]

1 hour ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Didn’t see game. What kind of injury (serious?) did Ramsay get? Was it a foul or just pulled up with strain? 
 

Gutted if he’s out long term

Looked like a thigh strain 

[fine-n-dandy]

44 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Its a worry with him, looks pretty fragile 

Young lad being asked to bust a gut & carry the team.

of course it’s going to have consequences when he’s still growing physically 

 

Fragile ? ffs. Your views of him are fragile at best.

You give the impression you WANT Patterson to outshine him just for sake of ‘I told yous so’

 

pathetic specimen

[afc1903mad]

2 hours ago, BonnieDon said:

Would you take 5 million and a future sell on % if offered that in January or keep him and hope for more in the future transfer windows?

I'd take it if we can get him loaned back for 6-18 months

[afc1903mad]

2 hours ago, Millertime said:

Its a worry with him, looks pretty fragile 

 

2 hours ago, strachanmcgheegoal said:

A lie repeated often enough eh

Absolutely.

Here's a comparison stat for you

Nathan Patterson - 332 minutes for SevCo 21/22

Calvin Ramsay - 1236 minutes for Aberdeen 21/22

[Ten Caat]

2 minutes ago, afc1903mad said:

I'd take it if we can get him loaned back for 6-18 months

We aren't getting him back for 18 months......he'd need to be on an astronomically long contract with the buying club for that to be a viable proposition

[afc1903mad]

4 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

We aren't getting him back for 18 months......he'd need to be on an astronomically long contract with the buying club for that to be a viable proposition

yeah, probably not, just a bit of wishful thinking given he's still young. He's only just turned 18, so an 18 month loan means the parent club still gets him at 20 having had a lot more games and experience under his belt

[fine-n-dandy]

1 hour ago, Ten Caat said:

We aren't getting him back for 18 months......he'd need to be on an astronomically long contract with the buying club for that to be a viable proposition

Depends on size/quality of club that buys him & who they have at RB roles.

Big enough club would likely let him finish season with us yes but arguably could still want him loaned out for regular game time on a 6 monthly basis to assess his ability to get in their first team consistently.

More likely the latter loans would be to a championship club as they don’t respect the SPFL but also take a look at Gilmour & how Chelsea are considering cancelling his loan because Norwich aren’t giving him enough game time

[afc1903mad]

Sadly looks like he suffered a Thigh Strain when setting up the goal.

He already had tape on his left thigh for the game.

Depending on the severity, he could be out 2 - 6 weeks. Nae good when MacKenzie is seeing a specialist as well on Monday

[Millertime]

9 hours ago, afc1903mad said:

Sadly looks like he suffered a Thigh Strain when setting up the goal.

He already had tape on his left thigh for the game.

Depending on the severity, he could be out 2 - 6 weeks. Nae good when MacKenzie is seeing a specialist as well on Monday

I won't believe it until @Ten Caat confirms on the timescale

[RUL]

9 hours ago, afc1903mad said:

Sadly looks like he suffered a Thigh Strain when setting up the goal.

He already had tape on his left thigh for the game.

Depending on the severity, he could be out 2 - 6 weeks. Nae good when MacKenzie is seeing a specialist as well on Monday

Mackenzie absolutely fucked seemingly. 

[shut up meg]

13 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Young lad being asked to bust a gut & carry the team.

of course it’s going to have consequences when he’s still growing physically 

 

Fragile ? ffs. Your views of him are fragile at best.

You give the impression you WANT Patterson to outshine him just for sake of ‘I told yous so’

 

pathetic specimen

He was the same with McKenna, I got the impression he wanted him to turn into Zander Diamond and leave for nothing so he could crow "I told you so".

Weirdo behaviour.

[Millertime]

2 hours ago, shut up meg said:

He was the same with McKenna, I got the impression he wanted him to turn into Zander Diamond and leave for nothing so he could crow "I told you so".

Weirdo behaviour.

Well, it's not what I wanted, so tbat means you're the weirdo

I said at the time that a big reason as to why Ramsay won't be in the Scotland squad is due to the fact he very much still has a boys body and isn't yet up to the rigour

I got ripped for it, so yeah, I'm using it as proof now

RIGHT?

[Reed or deed]

2 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Well, it's not what I wanted, so tbat means you're the weirdo

I said at the time that a big reason as to why Ramsay won't be in the Scotland squad is due to the fact he very much still has a boys body and isn't yet up to the rigour

I got ripped for it, so yeah, I'm using it as proof now

RIGHT?

You speak some shite, you really do.

[NEM]

1 hour ago, Millertime said:

Well, it's not what I wanted, so tbat means you're the weirdo

I said at the time that a big reason as to why Ramsay won't be in the Scotland squad is due to the fact he very much still has a boys body and isn't yet up to the rigour

I got ripped for it, so yeah, I'm using it as proof now

RIGHT?

Yet he has better shoulders than you…. 

[Millertime]

13 minutes ago, NEM said:

Yet he has better shoulders than you…. 

Zero chance of that, RIGHT?

[YorkDon]

42 minutes ago, NEM said:

Yet he has better shoulders than you…. 

 

29 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Zero chance of that, RIGHT?

 

I reckon you should be concentrating on the fitba, instead of fixating on a young boys body...

[afc1903mad]

Who’s played more minutes this year for their clubs? Nathan Patterson or Calvin Ramsay?

who’s provided more assists this season? Nathan Patterson or Calvin Ramsay?

[Geoff_Tipps]

4 hours ago, Millertime said:

Well, it's not what I wanted, so tbat means you're the weirdo

I said at the time that a big reason as to why Ramsay won't be in the Scotland squad is due to the fact he very much still has a boys body and isn't yet up to the rigour

I got ripped for it, so yeah, I'm using it as proof now

RIGHT?

He does have weak looking shoulders.

[Millertime]

48 minutes ago, afc1903mad said:

Who’s played more minutes this year for their clubs? Nathan Patterson or Calvin Ramsay?

who’s provided more assists this season? Nathan Patterson or Calvin Ramsay?

Who DOESNT have you on block?

[Ten Caat]

40 minutes ago, afc1903mad said:

Who’s played more minutes this year for their clubs? Nathan Patterson or Calvin Ramsay?

who’s provided more assists this season? Nathan Patterson or Calvin Ramsay?

Who has got Jack Gurr as his direct competition for a place in their club side? Nathan Patterson or Calvin Ramsay?

Now I'm not saying that Ramsay hasn't been anything other spectacularly good since nailing down his spot in the side. But Millermong is correct about his physical limitations right now. The loon is only 2 months past his 18th birthday and there have been a few occasions where he still needs subbed off after 75-80 minutes because he's had cramp.

In the fullness of time there's no question in my mind that Ramsay will prove the better player but for now he's fine gaining experience with us and the the Scotland U21 set up. He will get a full cap sooner rather than later ( I reckon by next summer at the latest) and from then on it's game on between the 2 to make the place the national side their own. 

[afc1903mad]

26 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

Who has got Jack Gurr as his direct competition for a place in their club side? Nathan Patterson or Calvin Ramsay?

Now I'm not saying that Ramsay hasn't been anything other spectacularly good since nailing down his spot in the side. But Millermong is correct about his physical limitations right now. The loon is only 2 months past his 18th birthday and there have been a few occasions where he still needs subbed off after 75-80 minutes because he's had cramp.

In the fullness of time there's no question in my mind that Ramsay will prove the better player but for now he's fine gaining experience with us and the the Scotland U21 set up. He will get a full cap sooner rather than later ( I reckon by next summer at the latest) and from then on it's game on between the 2 to make the place the national side their own. 

I get that to a point, however Calvin has improved his fitness since the start of the season.

Yes he was subbed early in the European campaign, but of the 9 league games he’s started, he’s played 90 minutes in 7 of them. Coming off once against Motherwell and yesterday with injury.

[Ten Caat]

17 minutes ago, afc1903mad said:

I get that to a point, however Calvin has improved his fitness since the start of the season.

Yes he was subbed early in the European campaign, but of the 9 league games he’s started, he’s played 90 minutes in 7 of them. Coming off once against Motherwell and yesterday with injury.

He finished the game v St Johnstone but only because we had already used all our subs. He had been hobbling around for about 5 minutes before May cut inside and he wasn't able to get in a challenge. 3 seconds later and St J were in the lead

[afc1903mad]

30 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

He finished the game v St Johnstone but only because we had already used all our subs. He had been hobbling around for about 5 minutes before May cut inside and he wasn't able to get in a challenge. 3 seconds later and St J were in the lead

Maybe on the substitution but harsh to blame him for the St Johnstone goal.

It ricocheted off him into Mays path and Gallagher gave him too much space

[Zeus]

What a weird argument 

[afc1903mad]

2 hours ago, Millertime said:

Who DOESNT have you on block?

You ?

 

[afc1903mad]

 

[OnceFaeMintlaw]

Attaboy 

[RED_JOHN]

10 hours ago, afc1903mad said:

 

Class act. We will be doing well to hold onto the lad for the full season.