fine-n-dandy Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Huns fee will be ‘hun disclosed’ if it isn’t as much as the £10m+ they are saying he’s worth. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Why do folk care how much the Huns get for Patterson? Let's just focus on our own business. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: You keep saying about him not being up to rigours of pro football like it’s a mark against Ramsay as opposed to Patterson? Or it somehow devalues Ramsay more. How many full 90 minutes has Patterson played? How many total & how many in his breakthrough season? Is the proof there that Patterson IS up to the rigours of pro football but Ramsay isn’t? How many 90’s has Ramsay? There’s about 2 years between them. If anything I would say looking at both players that Ramsay is far more advanced in many ways at 18 than Patterson was at 18, possibly even the better player now already but hard to gauge that really when the Huns don’t think him good enough or strong enough (or whatever) to play him so we have nothing to compare Calvin Ramsay has completed 10 full 90 minutes top flight football this season (last season he had 1) Nathan Patterson has completed 5 full 90 minutes top flight football this season (last season he had 4) Calvin Ramsay has played 1361 minutes this season] Nathan Patterson has completed 588 minutes 1 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Yep, unhealthy levels Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: Calvin Ramsay has completed 10 full 90 minutes top flight football this season (last season he had 1) Nathan Patterson has completed 5 full 90 minutes top flight football this season (last season he had 4) Calvin Ramsay has played 1361 minutes this season] Nathan Patterson has completed 588 minutes So wonder if Patterson is up to the rigours of pro football yet at 20? He hasn’t really had the game time to prove yes or no yet. Maybe his development has been hindered somehow ? Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: Steve Clarke knows that he will need a decent cover for Ramsay, so eased Patterson in for the easier games. Pattersons fortune is that he’s 2 years older than Ramsay so got first bite of the cherry. So instead of playing a better player he deliberately played an inferior one in several games? In what world does this make sense? Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: And I told you that’s irrelevant with regards to ability on the pitch. That’s hilarious, your piss poor argument fell apart at the first sign of scrutiny. Anyone with a modicum of football knowledge knows Ramsay is a better player but all the scouts and managers will simply ignore that and sign players like Paterson instead. You are very lucky to have such football insight. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, Big Hat Logan said: So instead of playing a better player he deliberately played an inferior one in several games? In what world does this make sense? It makes no sense at all. Patterson got his chance when Scotland had a shortage of right backs and took his opportunity. At that time Ramsay was still playing unders football. If Ramsay continues the way he's going he'll be in that squad soon enough and competing for the place. The minutes thing is a nonsense too. One is competing with his club captain for games, the other is competing with Jack Gurr. I think Ramsay will prove to be the better player but its just denial pretending that Patterson isn't also a good player. 1 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Ramsay will prove over time & away from Scottish football that he is a better RB than Patterson I believe. As from what I have seen I already think Ramsay is better & would 100% want him & his set pieces & crosses from open play in Aberdeen than the unknown of Patterson as he hasn’t shown any really. I don’t know anything about this other young RB breaking through at West Ham but it would be funny/great if he is as good or better Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Big Hat Logan said: That’s hilarious, your piss poor argument fell apart at the first sign of scrutiny. Anyone with a modicum of football knowledge knows Ramsay is a better player but all the scouts and managers will simply ignore that and sign players like Paterson instead. You are very lucky to have such football insight. I’ll leave it to the scouts and teams showing an interest in Ramsay rather than Patterson then ? 1 Link to comment
Bournemouth Gee Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 This is the Calvin Ramsay thread Link to comment
RED_JOHN Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Why do folk care how much the Huns get for Patterson? Let's just focus on our own business. Spot on. The interest levels of what could happen at Ibrox are at disturbing levels. Is this what some of our fans are turning into. Weird bastards. Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 46 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Some folk are obsessed with Patterson at unhealthy levels. Fully agree with you min?. It's reminiscent of the hype that surrounded a certain fucked up crock that played for the old club when he was emerging in the mid to late 80s. Whilst I'm not inferring the boy Patterson is shite, I would far rather have Calvin Ramsay in our team than him. Ramsay undoubtedly is the better of the two and has the far greater potential to progress. 1 Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said: Fully agree with you min?. It's reminiscent of the hype that surrounded a certain fucked up crock that played for the old club when he was emerging in the mid to late 80s. Whilst I'm not inferring the boy Patterson is shite, I would far rather have Calvin Ramsay in our team than him. Ramsay undoubtedly is the better of the two and has the far greater potential to progress. Absolutely, straight choice, Ramsay everyday of the week 1 Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: Absolutely, straight choice, Ramsay everyday of the week It's an absolute no-brainer. Ramsay>Patterson. Link to comment
starryfish Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 This place will be a hoot when Patterson goes to Everton and Ramsay replaces him at Ibrox Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, starryfish said: This place will be a hoot when Patterson goes to Everton and Ramsay replaces him at Ibrox Dinna min. I don't think any of us could cope with that. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, starryfish said: This place will be a hoot when Patterson goes to Everton and Ramsay replaces him at Ibrox Good luck min. Might need a better bit of lure than that ? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, starryfish said: This place will be a hoot when Patterson goes to Everton and Ramsay replaces him at Ibrox He would give Travernier a bit of competition for his spot at least. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 I guess Harrison Ashby is better than & more used to pro football than Ramsay as well because he is also 2 years older than Ramsay. Game time is irrelevant. It’s clearly only age & hitting the 20 year milestone that matters most ? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Ramsay is probably the goofiest looking of the 3 with his daft hair & plug ears, so millertime clearly making his assessments based on this (& where they’re from) as usual ? Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said: Why do folk care how much the Huns get for Patterson? Let's just focus on our own business. Do we actually care? No. Should we be looking to compare the price because we have a younger and better player in the same position? Yes. 3 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Durrant Dived said: Do we actually care? No. Should we be looking to compare the price because we have a younger and better player in the same position? Yes. Exactly. Only the Hun lovers like MT that are making it a bigger deal by trying to make out Patterson is better because Ramsay is 2 years younger & therefore ‘not up to the rigors of pro football’ Link to comment
Guest Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 54 minutes ago, starryfish said: This place will be a hoot when Patterson goes to Everton and Ramsay replaces him at Ibrox Ramsay wouldn't do that. Cormack wouldn't sell to them either. There's no need. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Looks like Scotland is going to have a decent choice of at least 4 FB’s (5 if Ashby is any good) but still a pretty grim selection of CH’s Patterson,Ramsay & possibly Ashby at RB & Tierney/Robertson at LB, haven’t heard of any others breaking through at LB area but most likely because Robertson/Tierney have basically cemented that position as only for them to fight for. The International squad is certainly starting to improve slightly for future. Keepers an issue (decent ones are aging) CH’s certainly an issue right now. Quite spoiled for midfielders for most part but strikers are poor. Link to comment
sheepcrooky Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: Looks like Scotland is going to have a decent choice of at least 4 FB’s (5 if Ashby is any good) but still a pretty grim selection of CH’s Patterson,Ramsay & possibly Ashby at RB & Tierney/Robertson at LB, haven’t heard of any others breaking through at LB area but most likely because Robertson/Tierney have basically cemented that position as only for them to fight for. The International squad is certainly starting to improve slightly for future. Keepers an issue (decent ones are aging) CH’s certainly an issue right now. Quite spoiled for midfielders for most part but strikers are poor. Is the boy from Hearts, now in Italy Aaron Hickey not a half decent left back ? 1 Link to comment
Dons79 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, sheepcrooky said: Is the boy from Hearts, now in Italy Aaron Hickey not a half decent left back ? Scored away in his last Match away to a very decent sassuolo 0-3 win and got a clean sheet, doing very well by all accounts Link to comment
NEM Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Roberto said: 16 million for Patterson is outrageous. 35 million for Ramsay it is then. Fucking sickening. Will single handedly keep the lights on at that rancid shit hole Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, sheepcrooky said: Is the boy from Hearts, now in Italy Aaron Hickey not a half decent left back ? Yeah apparently so but he never even gets a sniff of chat for national side because of the other 2 but yes, I forgot about him completely, so arguably we have six top class (some just potentially admittedly) FB’s to choose from now/future. It’s crazy really. Wish we could be as fortunate in all positions. Just never seems to work that way for Scotland anymore since as long ago as the 70’s/80’s really. Yes we are a relatively small nation but plenty other small nations by comparison have far more choice in all positions. Something Scotland certainly needs to work on as far as developing talent. Even if it means adapting more players for other positions earlier with a view for future. Might even have to look at developing one or two of Ramsay, Patterson, Ashby & Hickey into wingers come FB’s if no decent wingers breaking through. Not easy if parent club not able/willing to aid in this though Link to comment
Don_Corleone Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Is Ramsay better in his position at his age, than Jess was in his position at his age... is he the best player we've produced in the last 35 years? 1 Link to comment
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