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2 minutes ago, 4n4LprObE666 said:

There will be cheeky lowball late bids then we'll sell him in the summer, maybe. I'm more concerned about the dross staying than our decent players leaving to be honest.

Unfortunately they will be staying until at summer. Teams have got to want our players and at the moment it doesn’t look like we are attracting a lot of interest.

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4 hours ago, NEM said:

Agreed. If he’s happy though he should sign a contract extension 

Would be great business. Use some of the supposed money from the Hernandez sale and offer another three year extension.   Let the lad continue to develop and the payback will come when any club has to offer significantly more given the length of his new extended contract with us.  Great return on investment and we keep out best player for longer. 

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1 hour ago, Chester Don said:

Would be great business. Use some of the supposed money from the Hernandez sale and offer another three year extension.   Let the lad continue to develop and the payback will come when any club has to offer significantly more given the length of his new extended contract with us.  Great return on investment and we keep out best player for longer. 

No - we made that mistake with McKenna. Decent bid sell him and insist on certain contractural bonuses for the club plus a future percentage of ALL subsequent transfers 

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24 minutes ago, NEM said:

Aye and how does that work like?

 

Its not really too difficult to understand. It's called contractural clauses and agreements. Bit like John McGinn - he leaves Villa Hibs are due a windfall and I also believe that St Mirren weren't daft and they also have a 30% stake in whatever Hibs receive.

Hope that's simple enough. 

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15 minutes ago, Broken_Glass said:

Its not really too difficult to understand. It's called contractural clauses and agreements. Bit like John McGinn - he leaves Villa Hibs are due a windfall and I also believe that St Mirren weren't daft and they also have a 30% stake in whatever Hibs receive.

Hope that's simple enough. 

What happens if the player subsequently leaves on a Bosman? Like Ryan Fraser?

20% of fuck all is fuck all, by my maths

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1 hour ago, sooth_stander said:

What happens if the player subsequently leaves on a Bosman? Like Ryan Fraser?

20% of fuck all is fuck all, by my maths

All depends on how many times he moves, if he continues to develop and progress. He continues to excite and develop then the sky is the limit.

Captain Obvious with the above scenario, wasn't aware I would have been required to explain that - however you are correct with your mathematics.

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3 minutes ago, Kiriakov33 said:

Is there an issue with the lads fitness?  He was absolutely burst after an hour.  I actually said to my mate after 15 minutes that he looked off the pace and thought he could have done better closing down the cross that led to their goal.  
 

Much as I hate Kent. He is a hard player to play against. He runs RB’s ragged. 
 

Don’t get millertime started on Ramsay’s fitness ffs. 

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18 minutes ago, Kiriakov33 said:

Is there an issue with the lads fitness?  He was absolutely burst after an hour.  I actually said to my mate after 15 minutes that he looked off the pace and thought he could have done better closing down the cross that led to their goal.  
 

Off with cramp again.

That’s happened a lot.

Loads of potential & ability, just needs to get fitter & stronger. 

I think it’s too early for him to move - needs to stay, get games, get stronger & play 90 minutes here more before moving on. 

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18 hours ago, Sooper-hanz said:

The hope is that , say in John McGinn's example, he'll go on to an even bigger club than Villa. Villa aren't going to let him go on a Bosman. 

Good example below.

When QPR sold Raheem Sterling to Liverpool in 2010, they made sure to include a 20% sell-on clause in addition to the initial fee of £600,000. The forward’s subsequent £49m move (£44m up front, with £5m in potential add-ons) from Anfield to Manchester City in 2015 guaranteed QPR a minimum £7.8m.

Aye, but the boy posting above said 'ALL' future transfers, which implies that he wants a cut of the likes of when Raheem is sold by Man City...

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Clearly got told to stick to Kent like glue last night, and forgo his usual forays up the park.

Got suckered into that wild challenge on some Hun or other in the 1st half, due to his inexperience, so was walking a tightrope thereafter. 

Still very much work in progress but this is the best place for him to realise that promise 

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1 hour ago, Poodler said:

Commentators noted about 5 or 6 scouts up to see him - I remember Leeds Spurs Man U

 

hopefully they all had to pay to get in 

If they haven’t been to watch him earlier in the season they’ll have been wandering what all the fuss is about watching him last night. Wasn’t his best game.

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11 minutes ago, Chester Don said:

The fact of the matter is that he kept a player who is valued at circa  £16m by the press very quiet, I remember a perfectly timed tackle in the second half.   He is a superb asset and we should enjoy him while we can as there is an inevitability that he will play at the very top level in time. 

I think you were watching a different game to me then. Kent had him on toast a few times in the match

I'm sure he will make the very top of the game in time......but his first issue is to increase his stamina so he can effectively play for a full 90 minutes. Until he can do that he is of no use to any EPL clubs that may be showing an interest

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