Kiriakov33 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Is there an issue with the lads fitness? He was absolutely burst after an hour. I actually said to my mate after 15 minutes that he looked off the pace and thought he could have done better closing down the cross that led to their goal. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kiriakov33 said: Is there an issue with the lads fitness? He was absolutely burst after an hour. I actually said to my mate after 15 minutes that he looked off the pace and thought he could have done better closing down the cross that led to their goal. Much as I hate Kent. He is a hard player to play against. He runs RB’s ragged. Don’t get millertime started on Ramsay’s fitness ffs. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, Kiriakov33 said: Is there an issue with the lads fitness? He was absolutely burst after an hour. I actually said to my mate after 15 minutes that he looked off the pace and thought he could have done better closing down the cross that led to their goal. Off with cramp again. That’s happened a lot. Loads of potential & ability, just needs to get fitter & stronger. I think it’s too early for him to move - needs to stay, get games, get stronger & play 90 minutes here more before moving on. Link to comment
Poodler Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 Commentators noted about 5 or 6 scouts up to see him - I remember Leeds Spurs Man U hopefully they all had to pay to get in Link to comment
jamiesd Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Leicester and Wolves was it? Link to comment
DD1903 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 18 hours ago, Sooper-hanz said: The hope is that , say in John McGinn's example, he'll go on to an even bigger club than Villa. Villa aren't going to let him go on a Bosman. Good example below. When QPR sold Raheem Sterling to Liverpool in 2010, they made sure to include a 20% sell-on clause in addition to the initial fee of £600,000. The forward’s subsequent £49m move (£44m up front, with £5m in potential add-ons) from Anfield to Manchester City in 2015 guaranteed QPR a minimum £7.8m. Aye, but the boy posting above said 'ALL' future transfers, which implies that he wants a cut of the likes of when Raheem is sold by Man City... Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Clearly got told to stick to Kent like glue last night, and forgo his usual forays up the park. Got suckered into that wild challenge on some Hun or other in the 1st half, due to his inexperience, so was walking a tightrope thereafter. Still very much work in progress but this is the best place for him to realise that promise Link to comment
Sooper-hanz Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, DD1903 said: Aye, but the boy posting above said 'ALL' future transfers, which implies that he wants a cut of the likes of when Raheem is sold by Man City... How can that happen ? In that scenario QPR would have to have a deal with Man City before he started playing for Liverpool?? Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Poodler said: Commentators noted about 5 or 6 scouts up to see him - I remember Leeds Spurs Man U hopefully they all had to pay to get in If they haven’t been to watch him earlier in the season they’ll have been wandering what all the fuss is about watching him last night. Wasn’t his best game. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Sooper-hanz said: How can that happen ? In that scenario QPR would have to have a deal with Man City before he started playing for Liverpool?? Exactly. You'll have to ask what's his name that was telling us that that is what the club should be asking for! Link to comment
Chester Don Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 The fact of the matter is that he kept a player who is valued at circa £16m by the press very quiet, I remember a perfectly timed tackle in the second half. He is a superb asset and we should enjoy him while we can as there is an inevitability that he will play at the very top level in time. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, Chester Don said: The fact of the matter is that he kept a player who is valued at circa £16m by the press very quiet, I remember a perfectly timed tackle in the second half. He is a superb asset and we should enjoy him while we can as there is an inevitability that he will play at the very top level in time. I think you were watching a different game to me then. Kent had him on toast a few times in the match I'm sure he will make the very top of the game in time......but his first issue is to increase his stamina so he can effectively play for a full 90 minutes. Until he can do that he is of no use to any EPL clubs that may be showing an interest Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Needs another 18 months here imo if he wants to avoid being in some big team's under 23 squad. Should sign an extension with a pay rise and stick around for another season. Will be battle hardened by the time he's spent two full seasons in the first team here. 1 Link to comment
RED_JOHN Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Andy_123 said: If they haven’t been to watch him earlier in the season they’ll have been wandering what all the fuss is about watching him last night. Wasn’t his best game. That’s what I thought about him last night as well. Link to comment
BonnieDon Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 11 hours ago, Poodler said: Commentators noted about 5 or 6 scouts up to see him - I remember Leeds Spurs Man U hopefully they all had to pay to get in https://tbrfootball.com/report-tottenham-and-leeds-scout-clash-to-watch-elite-youngster/ The Daily Mail reports that Spurs, Leeds, Southampton, Leicester and Manchester United all had representatives at the game. But there is also interest from Bologna and Eintracht Frankfurt. Aberdeen meanwhile, are believed to want more than £6 million for Ramsay. They would also like the 18-year-old back on loan for the rest of the season if he does move. Ramsay would not be the first Premiership right-back to move to England in this window. Nathan Patterson left Rangers for Everton earlier in the month. And the Aberdeen starlet is also not the only young right-back attracting the attention of both Leeds and Tottenham. Link to comment
NEM Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Least the £4 million figure plucked out of a journos arse has improved a bit 1 Link to comment
slippers Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Think we are going to lose him this window. Too much clubs interested for 1 not to take a punt. I think a bid of around 6m rising to 9m is what we should be looking at. A 20% sell on also. Think I’d rather he went to bundesliga because if he reaches his potential we are going to rake in a heap of cash for sell on. Interesting to see if he would be loaned back or if they would want him for first team duties straight away. Link to comment
thurso Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 22 hours ago, Ten Caat said: I think you were watching a different game to me then. Kent had him on toast a few times in the match I'm sure he will make the very top of the game in time......but his first issue is to increase his stamina so he can effectively play for a full 90 minutes. Until he can do that he is of no use to any EPL clubs that may be showing an interest I thought he defended against Kent very well and got the better of Kent more than Kent got the better of him. His tackle in the second half was excellent I think it was there he stretched a bit and probably slightly pulled something that made him go off. Don’t think stamina was a problem Link to comment
Kiriakov33 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 41 minutes ago, thurso said: I thought he defended against Kent very well and got the better of Kent more than Kent got the better of him. His tackle in the second half was excellent I think it was there he stretched a bit and probably slightly pulled something that made him go off. Don’t think stamina was a problem Don’t agree. Thought Kent did a far more effective job on Ramsay. Kent also got the cross in for their goal. Still think Ramsay should have got out to him quicker and was caught in no man’s land. Glass said after game that it was cramp. There were times later in the first half that I thought he didn’t look 100% fit. Was definitely breathing out of his arse after an hour. He is our prize asset though but still very raw and needs to develop physically. Another 12-18 months with us would be the best all round I reckon. That being said £6m up front and loaned back for rest of season is an offer I doubt the club would turn down. Link to comment
Redmist1903 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, slippers said: Interesting to see if he would be loaned back or if they would want him for first team duties straight away. Steady, the boy canna even last 60 minutes in the SPL ? Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Redmist1903 said: Steady, the boy canna even last 60 minutes in the SPL ? Albeit it was cos he was getting lumps kicked out of him, how many 90 mins did Ryan Fraser complete for us? In fact, did he ever make it past the 75 min mark? Different players develop at different ages. Never been a problem for Ferguson. We just need to be careful with Ramsay at this stage of his career Link to comment
SupportmeansSUPPORT Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I think its fair to say that the story in the Daily Mail is basically putting out in media exactly what terms we are looking for to do a deal as I believe the journalist who has written it gets briefed his info from a highest of levels within AFC. I highly doubt the fact Calvin often gets cramp and still needs some building up physically is an issue that will put any clubs off signing him in the least. If he was going off every week with strains or pulls I think they would be a lot more concerned. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Aaron Hickey had the same issues when breaking in to regular first team football. Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, SupportmeansSUPPORT said: I think its fair to say that the story in the Daily Mail is basically putting out in media exactly what terms we are looking for to do a deal as I believe the journalist who has written it gets briefed his info from a highest of levels within AFC. I highly doubt the fact Calvin often gets cramp and still needs some building up physically is an issue that will put any clubs off signing him in the least. If he was going off every week with strains or pulls I think they would be a lot more concerned. Stephen McGowan? I think McInnes fed him stories too, back in the day. Albeit most journalists liked and backed McInnes, McGowan particularly so Its interesting that Joel Sked, from A View from the Terrace, and Scotsman journo, is picking up on a lot of Aberdeen transfer info at the moment. Link to comment
SupportmeansSUPPORT Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: Stephen McGowan? I think McInnes fed him stories too, back in the day. Albeit most journalists liked and backed McInnes, McGowan particularly so Its interesting that Joel Sked, from A View from the Terrace, and Scotsman journo, is picking up on a lot of Aberdeen transfer info at the moment. Fairly certain DM was never his source. Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 https://www.leedsallover.com/report-leeds-united-learn-of-asking-price-for-ace-scouted-on-tuesday-night/ With that, comes the need for Leeds to invest in a right-back who we know could step in and cover for Luke Ayling. Ramsay is clearly up to the task, even at his tender age, and would be a very exciting player to have at the club. £6million is a lot of money but Aberdeen are justified to be asking for it. Link to comment
NEM Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, muttonhumper said: https://www.leedsallover.com/report-leeds-united-learn-of-asking-price-for-ace-scouted-on-tuesday-night/ With that, comes the need for Leeds to invest in a right-back who we know could step in and cover for Luke Ayling. Ramsay is clearly up to the task, even at his tender age, and would be a very exciting player to have at the club. £6million is a lot of money but Aberdeen are justified to be asking for it. "They report that a deal to sign the defender would need to be in excess of £6million, even though there is no set asking price as of yet." Bidding war please! Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Interesting compared to Scottish sport coverage (and if anyone doubts it look at some of the John Souttar stories). No set asking price but bids need to be above £6m as that is what he is perceived to be worth. For Scotland that would read Cash Strapped dons will be forced to accept 1.5m as that's their record fee to date (relevance of this?) and they should therefore be happy with that. Link to comment
Glass half full Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Kiriakov33 said: Don’t agree. Thought Kent did a far more effective job on Ramsay. Kent also got the cross in for their goal. Still think Ramsay should have got out to him quicker and was caught in no man’s land. Glass said after game that it was cramp. There were times later in the first half that I thought he didn’t look 100% fit. Was definitely breathing out of his arse after an hour. He is our prize asset though but still very raw and needs to develop physically. Another 12-18 months with us would be the best all round I reckon. That being said £6m up front and loaned back for rest of season is an offer I doubt the club would turn down. This is a spot on assessment. Link to comment
Woolenrouge Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 My sources reckon personal terms wi Spurs to be sorted on Zoom the morn. If that gets done the bid will go in. Canna mind if there was a loan back bit as I was pished. 1 Link to comment
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