Calvin Ramsay

[Hoofball]

1 minute ago, thurso said:

I have no idea who Williams is he could be the next Cafu but him and jet both had champions league experience and it didn’t do jet any good. 
 

Williams must be some player tho if he’s twice as good as Ramsay 

No idea who Williams is yet can say Ramsay is worth more than him. 

[Torry Tosser]

2 hours ago, Hoofball said:

No idea who Williams is yet can say Ramsay is worth more than him. 

Been superb on loan for promoted Fulham.

[Zeus]

Hopefully this transfer goes through soon so we all dinna have to read the fucking drivel in this thread any more.

 

[DD1903]

6 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Hopefully this transfer goes through soon so we all dinna have to read the fucking drivel in this thread any more.

 

Yeah, but once it goes through it’ll just mean posts about how much we should have got, and prolonged discussion about the potential add-ons etc

[Zeus]

Just now, DD1903 said:

Yeah, but once it goes through it’ll just mean posts about how much we should have got, and prolonged discussion about the potential add-ons etc

Aye your right. The McKenna thread still makes an appareance near 2 years after he left. Ffs

 

[DD1903]

9 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Aye your right. The McKenna thread still makes an appareance near 2 years after he left. Ffs

 

Best to just ignore the thread, z-unit

[Zeus]

1 minute ago, DD1903 said:

Best to just ignore the thread, z-unit

Dont want to miss the latest on Neco Williams!

 

[daytripping]

Up there with Deano for potential.

[DD1903]

38 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Dont want to miss the latest on Neco Williams!

 

Done well at Fulham apparently ?

[Torry Tosser]

1 hour ago, Zeus said:

Hopefully this transfer goes through soon so we all dinna have to read the fucking drivel in this thread any more.

 

?

[aberdeen1970]

7 hours ago, DD1903 said:

Yeah, but once it goes through it’ll just mean posts about how much we should have got, and prolonged discussion about the potential add-ons etc

Aye. Some of our support seem more interested in the money side than the football side these days. 

As soon as a player makes the first team they're already obsessed with how much we're going to sell them for. 

Then when we do sell then they watch them more for their new team than they did for us in the vain hope that we'll cash in on an "add-on" 

[fine-n-dandy]

3 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Aye. Some of our support seem more interested in the money side than the football side these days. 

As soon as a player makes the first team they're already obsessed with how much we're going to sell them for. 

Then when we do sell then they watch them more for their new team than they did for us in the vain hope that we'll cash in on an "add-on" 

Cannot blame the fans for the way the club has regressed over the years. 
We aren’t a club that is capable of keeping players of quality any longer. We are a selling club & that is only going to increase as that is exactly how DC wants us & that is how we will continue. 
 

DC’s Aberdeen is not there for enjoyment/on pitch success as main priority. It is there as a business to make money & any success on pitch is just a bonus to aid in selling more players.

 

Fans talking about how much money players can earn the club has 100% been brought about by the clubs own agenda. & that is the only realistic ‘success’ the fans can hope for now. 
We are a diddy selling club hoping to pick up the odd trophy once in a while like all the other diddy clubs 

[WesthillWanderersFC]

1 minute ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Cannot blame the fans for the way the club has regressed over the years. 
We aren’t a club that is capable of keeping players of quality any longer. We are a selling club & that is only going to increase as that is exactly how DC wants us & that is how we will continue. 
 

DC’s Aberdeen is not there for enjoyment/on pitch success as main priority. It is there as a business to make money & any success on pitch is just a bonus to aid in selling more players.

 

Fans talking about how much money players can earn the club has 100% been brought about by the clubs own agenda. & that is the only realistic ‘success’ the fans can hope for now. 
We are a diddy selling club hoping to pick up the odd trophy once in a while like all the other diddy clubs 

EVERY club in Scotland is a selling club in case it had slipped your notice. 

[fine-n-dandy]

3 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

EVERY club in Scotland is a selling club in case it had slipped your notice. 

It hadn’t but the point is that outwith the arse cheeks every club HAS to sell as all are diddy sides. 
 

Fans are automatically going to put a value on players that impress as that is the clubs strategy.

 

Arse cheeks so also but they still have the ability to hold onto their players & almost guarantee them success 

[fine-n-dandy]

To say ‘some’ of our supporters are more interested in the value of players like it’s somehow them that are in the wrong is ridiculous because that is exactly how the club is being run. 

[aberdeen1970]

38 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Cannot blame the fans for the way the club has regressed over the years. 
We aren’t a club that is capable of keeping players of quality any longer. We are a selling club & that is only going to increase as that is exactly how DC wants us & that is how we will continue. 
 

DC’s Aberdeen is not there for enjoyment/on pitch success as main priority. It is there as a business to make money & any success on pitch is just a bonus to aid in selling more players.

 

Fans talking about how much money players can earn the club has 100% been brought about by the clubs own agenda. & that is the only realistic ‘success’ the fans can hope for now. 
We are a diddy selling club hoping to pick up the odd trophy once in a while like all the other diddy clubs 

I've no issue with us being a selling club. 

But the supporters should be focused on what the player does in a red shirt for as long as possible rather than wishing them out of the door to the highest bidder as soon as they can. 

It's folk getting excited about selling Ramsay so we can pay over the odds in wages for another year of Gallagher, Bates and Watkins that strikes me as odd. 

[fine-n-dandy]

18 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

I've no issue with us being a selling club. 

But the supporters should be focused on what the player does in a red shirt for as long as possible rather than wishing them out of the door to the highest bidder as soon as they can. 

It's folk getting excited about selling Ramsay so we can pay over the odds in wages for another year of Gallagher, Bates and Watkins that strikes me as odd. 

But they aren’t ‘wishing’ them out the door though. They are being realistic & wanting the most return for them.

 

All would much prefer to keep players & not sell them at all if it meant success on the pitch but we cannot get that wish granted. 
 

Keeping one Calvin Ramsay isn’t going to change that.

 The club WANTS to sell players & that will automatically trickle through to the fans as that is the mantra of the club now first & foremost 

[aberdeen1970]

1 minute ago, fine-n-dandy said:

But they aren’t ‘wishing’ them out the door though. They are being realistic & wanting the most return for them.

 

All would much prefer to keep players & not sell them at all if it meant success on the pitch but we cannot get that wish granted. 
 

Keeping one Calvin Ramsay isn’t going to change that.

 The club WANTS to sell players & that will automatically trickle through to the fans as that is the mantra of the club now first & foremost 

Yeah I agree totally.

But as a fan I don't give a fuck if we get £3m or £4m for a player or whether we're getting a few hundred grand once they've played 50 games for their new club. I want to see good players in a red shirt for as long as we can. 

 

 

[fine-n-dandy]

Ask any fan if they would prefer to sell a player in January for £20m knowing that keeping the player could win us the league & every fan would say keep the player. Even if winning the league only makes the club £5m (for example) & there is risk of player getting injured. 
 

Ask Dave Cormack same question in same situation & he would 100% choose selling player for the £20m at expense of league title. He may be a true fan but he is 100% a businessman first. 

[fine-n-dandy]

Problem is that players have far too much ‘rights’ now & clubs are their bitches.

 

Should be the case that a player signs a contract they are expected to honour that. Not spit dummy (McKenna/Ferguson just two examples) as soon as a club shows interest & they expect the club to sell them regardless of price. Players that hand in transfer requests in this situation (seems to be the new norm) should rightly be completely chastised by the support.

 

Agents (& parents) are the scum driving this now & clubs are just there for advertising. Very few players in the game with morals & appreciation of what their clubs do for them

[G31DON]

11 hours ago, thurso said:

I have no idea who Williams is he could be the next Cafu but him and jet both had champions league experience and it didn’t do jet any good. 
 

Williams must be some player tho if he’s twice as good as Ramsay 

You must be one of the most mentally deficient posters ever on here, which is some achievement. 

[redone]

8 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Ask any fan if they would prefer to sell a player in January for £20m knowing that keeping the player could win us the league & every fan would say keep the player. Even if winning the league only makes the club £5m (for example) & there is risk of player getting injured. 
 

Ask Dave Cormack same question in same situation & he would 100% choose selling player for the £20m at expense of league title. He may be a true fan but he is 100% a businessman first. 

You  reckon ?...... I wouldn’t be so sure.  Assuming we weren’t so deep in debt that we had no realistic option* other than to take the £20m , I think Cormack would find the possibly never to be repeated serious chance to win the league too hard to resist.

* (“option” in the true sense and meaning of the word.....NOT the @Parklife version)

[thurso]

10 hours ago, G31DON said:

You must be one of the most mentally deficient posters ever on here, which is some achievement. 

And what made you come up with that insightful assessment 

[Millertime]

11 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Yeah I agree totally.

But as a fan I don't give a fuck if we get £3m or £4m for a player or whether we're getting a few hundred grand once they've played 50 games for their new club. I want to see good players in a red shirt for as long as we can. 

 

 

Yeah, but getting 3 or 4m for a player generally means cash to improve the wider team?

[Kilgore Trout]

13 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Ask any fan if they would prefer to sell a player in January for £20m knowing that keeping the player could win us the league & every fan would say keep the player. Even if winning the league only makes the club £5m (for example) & there is risk of player getting injured. 
 

Ask Dave Cormack same question in same situation & he would 100% choose selling player for the £20m at expense of league title. He may be a true fan but he is 100% a businessman first. 

That is just a dreadful analogy on so many levels. Utter tripe.

[Andy_123]

2 hours ago, thurso said:

And what made you come up with that insightful assessment 

Your posts I'd imagine

[Bournemouth Gee]

13 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Ask any fan if they would prefer to sell a player in January for £20m knowing that keeping the player could win us the league & every fan would say keep the player. Even if winning the league

Not for me

[Broken_Glass]

17 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Cannot blame the fans for the way the club has regressed over the years. 
We aren’t a club that is capable of keeping players of quality any longer. We are a selling club & that is only going to increase as that is exactly how DC wants us & that is how we will continue. 
 

DC’s Aberdeen is not there for enjoyment/on pitch success as main priority. It is there as a business to make money & any success on pitch is just a bonus to aid in selling more players.

 

Fans talking about how much money players can earn the club has 100% been brought about by the clubs own agenda. & that is the only realistic ‘success’ the fans can hope for now. 
We are a diddy selling club hoping to pick up the odd trophy once in a while like all the other diddy clubs 

Don't really agree with that. Selling Ramsay for £XXX may just mean the difference in being able to keep other youngsters that wee bit longer, may be beneficial in bringing through more players with the income.

As has been stated already every club in Scotland is a selling club or a stepping stone club.

[aberdeen1970]

5 hours ago, Millertime said:

Yeah, but getting 3 or 4m for a player generally means cash to improve the wider team?

You'd think. 

But we have a wage bill that's gone up by £2m and our team is atrocious 

[elephantstone78]

5 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

You'd think. 

But we have a wage bill that's gone up by £2m and our team is atrocious 

Has it though? 
Or, is it the difference between what we spend and what we earn has increased by £2M?

Early cup knockout, compensation to every man and his dog and a lowly league position will do that.